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Seems to me that for the first time in nearly a decade, we have a roster that is comparable to the big boys(except Alabama) in the SEC...that doesn't translate to 11 wins per se, but it does mean that we should have a chance in every game we play. Is there a good site where you can compare rosters(returning starters, top players) with upcoming opponents?
 
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Seems to me that for the first time in nearly a decade, we have a roster that is comparable to the big boys(except Alabama) in the SEC...that doesn't translate to 11 wins per se, but it does mean that we should have a chance in every game we play. Is there a good site where you can compare rosters(returning starters, top players) with upcoming opponents?
I don't think anyone with eyes would argue. The last 2-3 years under Fulmer and up until CBJ arrived we were only signing maybe 30% every year who were SEC caliber players. 70% were not big enough, strong enough, or fast enough to compete in the SEC.
 
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Seems to me that for the first time in nearly a decade, we have a roster that is comparable to the big boys(except Alabama) in the SEC...that doesn't translate to 11 wins per se, but it does mean that we should have a chance in every game we play. Is there a good site where you can compare rosters(returning starters, top players) with upcoming opponents?

I agree, I hated going to games thinking if we play perfect and get a couple of breaks we could possibly win, to now I feel like we can make our breaks with athletes on the field that could care less about the history but is focus on the future. So yeah it may not be a 10 win season, but its going to be fun to watch..:rock:
 
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I think our underclassmen match up with anyone. Our upperclassmen probably rank in the bottom half at worst, middle of the pack at best.
 
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i think in spots we line up or are clearly better than most others. WR, TE, DE, CB and S we are well above average in the SEC. LB, QB average (after Dobbs is scary). RB imo is behind our first two are great but not the best in the league and after is a complete question. and DT is a question mark if our freshmen turn out well we are fine, if not we could be introuble. OL is below average unless one of our tackles has a Robertson year (freshman AA) in which case we are average
 
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I think our underclassmen match up with anyone. Our upperclassmen probably rank in the bottom half at worst, middle of the pack at best.

Upperclassmen. You mean: Sutton ... Reeves-Maybin ... North ... Vereen .. Croom .. Wiesman ... Josh Smith ... Pig Howard ... O'Brien ... Bynum ... Weatherd ... Stocstill ... Owen Williams ... Crowder ... Blanc ... Jackson ... Ellis ... Kerbyson ... Blair ... McNeil ... Randolph .. Maggitt .. Dobbs ... and possibly Pearson.

Those upperclassmen, right?
 
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Upperclassmen. You mean: Sutton ... Reeves-Maybin ... North ... Vereen .. Croom .. Wiesman ... Josh Smith ... Pig Howard ... O'Brien ... Bynum ... Weatherd ... Stocstill ... Owen Williams ... Crowder ... Blanc ... Jackson ... Ellis ... Kerbyson ... Blair ... McNeil ... Randolph .. Maggitt .. Dobbs ... and possibly Pearson.

Those upperclassmen, right?

Right. And the NFL will prove me out on draft night next year.

Here is the question to ask:
If Bama, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, aTm, Georgia or others offered to trade on a class-by-class basis, which classes would you trade.

For me:
Seniors - definitely.
Juniors - probably still yes, but Dobbs makes it tough.
Frosh and Soph - no.
 
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Talent wise----yes. Depth and experience--:no:

We return more starters and total starts than any team in the league. We're not "deep" at QB, however, we're one of only 4-5 SEC teams who even knows who their starter is, so we're deeper than than most. Not many other SEC teams have 2 5 star RBs, so we're deeper than most there, especially when you consider we'll back them up with 3-4 other talented RBs. We're as deep and as talented as any team in the league at WR and safety, we have excellent depth at DE, and we return 8 OLs each who have made multiple starts in their career to date. We also return 2 TEs who played in nearly every game last year, 1 CB who has started all 25 games in his career, another who played in all 13 games last year, and we'll bring in another (Martin) who was arguably the best JUCO CB in the country last year who the coaches have said will be counted on to contribute immediately.

Our depth isn't as good as it could be or as good as it surely will be next year, but it's certainly much better than a lot of people want to admit or believe it is, especially when compared to the talent and depth that exist on the teams in the conference.
 
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Talent wise----yes. Depth and experience--:no:

I'm suckered again... Please do a comparison with the other teams in the SEC. Few if any have depth and experience that would allow them to lose their top 2 at any position on the depth chart without having to play inexperienced and young players... a difference is that Mizzou and others wouldn't have talent at the 3rd level.

UT returns more players from its 2 deep than any SEC team and one of the tops if not the top in returning lettermen. They played a year early... but they still got the experience.
 
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We return more starters and total starts than any team in the league. We're not "deep" at QB, however, we're one of only 4-5 SEC teams who even knows who their starter is, so we're deeper than than most. Not many other SEC teams have 2 5 star RBs, so we're deeper than most there, especially when you consider we'll back them up with 3-4 other talented RBs. We're as deep and as talented as any team in the league at WR and safety, we have excellent depth at DE, and we return 8 OLs each who have made multiple starts in their career to date. We also return 2 TEs who played in nearly every game last year, 1 CB who has started all 25 games in his career, another who played in all 13 games last year, and we'll bring in another (Martin) who was arguably the best JUCO CB in the country last year who the coaches have said will be counted on to contribute immediately.

Our depth isn't as good as it could be or as good as it surely will be next year, but it's certainly much better than a lot of people want to admit or believe it is, especially when compared to the talent and depth that exist on the teams in the conference.

who? Kelly and? Young? RDIII? considering none of them have played a snap for us it is too soon to make that assumption. we have two good guys (one of the goods have also never played a snap for us) and a bunch of question marks.
 
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who? Kelly and? Young? RDIII? considering none of them have played a snap for us it is too soon to make that assumption. we have two good guys (one of the goods have also never played a snap for us) and a bunch of question marks.

Lost in the feeding frenzy on the thread about RB depth... I said over there that Jones and Bajakian managed the RB position very well last year. They effectively had one, true SEC quality RB and a suspect OL. They kept him reasonably healthy and effective.

I think Pearson's return is a piece of doing that again this fall hopefully with an OL that gets RB's to the 2nd and 3rd level more often. Abernathty, Pig, and others out of the slot can also take pressure off the RB's in the run game.
 
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who? Kelly and? Young? RDIII? considering none of them have played a snap for us it is too soon to make that assumption. we have two good guys (one of the goods have also never played a snap for us) and a bunch of question marks.

Kelly has talent. It's too early to tell if that talent will translate to results, but the talent is there.
 
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who? Kelly and? Young? RDIII? considering none of them have played a snap for us it is too soon to make that assumption. we have two good guys (one of the goods have also never played a snap for us) and a bunch of question marks.

At this time last year ... Hurd had "never played a snap for us." :question:

Am not saying that Kelly, Young or RDIII are probable to be another Hurd this year. But I think its not at all unreasonable to think that ONE of the three could very well be an adequate 3rd-team RB. :shades:
 
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I don't think anyone with eyes would argue. The last 2-3 years under Fulmer and up until CBJ arrived we were only signing maybe 30% every year who were SEC caliber players. 70% were not big enough, strong enough, or fast enough to compete in the SEC.

Prepare to be attacked by the Monument Builders.
 
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Last year the Vol's Oline was the worst in history, or very very close to the worst.......with mostly the same players again this year, where will this years Oline stand, come December?

It seems most Vol fans expect a drastic turnaround from last year, I 'm cautiously optimistic concerning this group
 
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So sick of hearing, "what if we get hurt, what if we get hurt, what if we get hurt" it's like the Croods, don't be afraid to succeed. See everyone in Atlanta for the SEC champ
game.
 
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At this time last year ... Hurd had "never played a snap for us." :question:

Am not saying that Kelly, Young or RDIII are probable to be another Hurd this year. But I think its not at all unreasonable to think that ONE of the three could very well be an adequate 3rd-team RB. :shades:

Not being "negative" here... but I'll say it. None of those guys are going to be as good as Hurd was as a first year player. Unless he has injury issues, Hurd is going to be a UT great.
 
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Last year the Vol's Oline was the worst in history, or very very close to the worst.......with mostly the same players again this year, where will this years Oline stand, come December?

It seems most Vol fans expect a drastic turnaround from last year, I 'm cautiously optimistic concerning this group

There was a very considerable improvement between the 2010 group and 2011 when it was almost the same guys back. I don't think these guys are as athletically gifted as those were but there should be a big improvement with most in their second year as starters and the competition coming up behind them.
 
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So sick of hearing, "what if we get hurt, what if we get hurt, what if we get hurt" it's like the Croods, don't be afraid to succeed. See everyone in Atlanta for the SEC champ
game.

You are right to an extent. Pretty much any team that has the wrong guys or numbers of injuries that some are speculating here will have problems.

It is also worth considering that a full year of S&C for the rising Sophs should help them endure and avoid injuries better.
 
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I think our 1st team will match up with anyone. 2nd team is mostly ok...I hope we have an injury free season.

Me too, but that's probably not gonna happen. I just hope the injuries are not to severe, season ending, and to our really key guys. Injuries are gonna happen in the SEC. No way to avoid them.
 
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I don't think anyone with eyes would argue. The last 2-3 years under Fulmer and up until CBJ arrived we were only signing maybe 30% every year who were SEC caliber players. 70% were not big enough, strong enough, or fast enough to compete in the SEC.

Fulmer was recruiting well for the teams we had and who we played against for quite some time. Problem is, all the SEC got faster and stronger we just treaded water and everyone passed us by. Team speed is vital to the success of a team, in all phases of football. So the last years of Fulmer and Dooley's folly of not recruiting positions of need.. you can see how long it has taken for us to get even close to the competition. One more really good class will have us where we need to be.. that's beating Alabama and Auburn. Not just getting moral victories.:thumbsup:
 
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