Rosenstein invoked possibility of 25th Amendment

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Stew Cook said:
So, are you gonna hang your hat of Q credibility on the Rosenstein resignation? So what if he's fired instead, will you still consider that an accurate prediction?

And if the FISA docs come up clean? Still gonna kick the Q can down the road?
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Resign / Fired was the prediction. Let's wait and see what happens. I always use the word "if" in front but it looks more and more like the Q stuff is coming out about as stated. Nobody is going to bat a 1000 on this. Things are fluid and things change. Q also said that NK would denuclearize. It appears that is a strong possibility. Also said Iran is next. They are on the block as we speak. Q said to watch for Noel Francisco months back. I doubt those are coincidences or lucky guesses. Again things are fluid and nothing is set in stone. I know you do not follow Q as closely as I do and I don't expect you to understand it all.
 
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Trump's tweet for Thursday is already written:

"John Kelly and I gave Rosenstein many opportunities to resign on fair terms but he refused and so I had to fire him."

Followed by words about witch hunts and such.

It's pretty obvious this is about attacking the people that are a threat to him, perpetuating the deep state conspiracy theory for the base, and undermining Mueller.

Not going to work. The truth shall set us free (of con man Trump).
 
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lawgator1 said:
Trump's tweet for Thursday is already written:

"John Kelly and I gave Rosenstein many opportunities to resign on fair terms but he refused and so I had to fire him."

Followed by words about witch hunts and such.

It's pretty obvious this is about attacking the people that are a threat to him, perpetuating the deep state conspiracy theory for the base, and undermining Mueller.

Not going to work. The truth shall set us free (of con man Trump).
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Doubt it "Stretch Armstrong".
 
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lawgator1 said:
Trump's tweet for Thursday is already written:

"John Kelly and I gave Rosenstein many opportunities to resign on fair terms but he refused and so I had to fire him."

Followed by words about witch hunts and such.

It's pretty obvious this is about attacking the people that are a threat to him, perpetuating the deep state conspiracy theory for the base, and undermining Mueller.

Not going to work. The truth shall set us free (of con man Trump).
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Rosenstein has done significantly more harm to the DOJ's reputation than good. He deserves to be fired.

I predict Sessions will be gone after the midterms.
 
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Matt2496 said:
Rosenstein has done significantly more harm to the DOJ's reputation than good. He deserves to be fired.

I predict Sessions will be gone after the midterms.
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Not if he blocks Trump's effort to shut down the investigation. If he does that, a mysterious report of some betrayal by him will appear in the news and he will then be fired.

Brick by brick (like that?) Trump is attacking and breaking down the firewall between us and the truth of Trump's felonious activity.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Not if he blocks Trump's effort to shut down the investigation. If he does that, a mysterious report of some betrayal by him will appear in the news and he will then be fired.

Brick by brick (like that?) Trump is attacking and breaking down the firewall between us and the truth of Trump's felonious activity.
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That investigation should have never happened in the first place.

I keep telling you that Boomerang is coming right for you LG.
 
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working theory for consideration:

1. Comey investigation not turning up evidence of collusion (supported by Lisa Page testimony saying they had nothing by the time she left).
2. Comey (for what ever reason) still wants to get Trump out.
3. Comey knows Trump might fire him.
4. Comey, Rosenstein (who else) see opportunity if fired to appoint SC to dig into other things to find something AND/OR make case for obstruction.
5. Trump suggests firing Comey and RR agrees and volunteers to write the memo (NYT piece)
6. Comey (knowing it's coming) plants his evidence with his buddy and the plan is now in place.
7. Mueller appointed and investigation shifts to non-collusion items and obstruction case (NYT reporting of shift).

Inside job to get Trump. Latest leak is to clear RR out of the way for a couple reasons 1) add to the "Saturday Night Massacre" narrative - Schiff already out with the talking points - as "further" evidence of "obstruction". 2) RR had a conflict in an obstruction case given he was both a witness and participant in the Comey firing. As Mueller's boss that put him in a difficult situation. With him out he's free to be a witness against.

The big picture. Prior administration along with DNC/Hillary campaign saw a chance to label Trump as collaborator with Russia. Used Intel Community to build case. Case doesn't have merit. Plan B - obstruction or anything else we can find - need SC with broad mandate.

Prior leaders of IC desperate to prevent information about how this went down explaining Brennan's recent public insanity and call for insubordination.
 
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volinbham said:
working theory for consideration:

1. Comey investigation not turning up evidence of collusion (supported by Lisa Page testimony saying they had nothing by the time she left).
2. Comey (for what ever reason) still wants to get Trump out.
3. Comey knows Trump might fire him.
4. Comey, Rosenstein (who else) see opportunity if fired to appoint SC to dig into other things to find something AND/OR make case for obstruction.
5. Trump suggests firing Comey and RR agrees and volunteers to write the memo (NYT piece)
6. Comey (knowing it's coming) plants his evidence with his buddy and the plan is now in place.
7. Mueller appointed and investigation shifts to non-collusion items and obstruction case (NYT reporting of shift).

Inside job to get Trump. Latest leak is to clear RR out of the way for a couple reasons 1) add to the "Saturday Night Massacre" narrative - Schiff already out with the talking points - as "further" evidence of "obstruction". 2) RR had a conflict in an obstruction case given he was both a witness and participant in the Comey firing. As Mueller's boss that put him in a difficult situation. With him out he's free to be a witness against.

The big picture. Prior administration along with DNC/Hillary campaign saw a chance to label Trump as collaborator with Russia. Used Intel Community to build case. Case doesn't have merit. Plan B - obstruction or anything else we can find - need SC with broad mandate.

Prior leaders of IC desperate to prevent information about how this went down explaining Brennan's recent public insanity and call for insubordination.
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All good points.

I was wondering if the RR leak was from Mueller himself to set a booby trap for Trump. As of right now, the obstruction case against Trump is shaky at best considering that firing the FBI director had no real direct impact on the Russia investigation and is a completely constitutional action. Therefore, if Trump were to fire RR, the head of the Russia investigation, this would give Mueller all the ammo he needs to mount an obstruction case against him.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Not if he blocks Trump's effort to shut down the investigation. If he does that, a mysterious report of some betrayal by him will appear in the news and he will then be fired.

Brick by brick (like that?) Trump is attacking and breaking down the firewall between us and the truth of Trump's felonious activity.
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you are still clinging to that theory that this came from Team Trump?
 
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volinbham said:
you are still clinging to that theory that this came from Team Trump?
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The only thing I feel certain of is that the person who did it wanted to give Trump an excuse to fire RR. The list of people who would want that is pretty long. And does include the WH.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The only thing I feel certain of is that the person who did it wanted to give Trump an excuse to fire RR. The list of people who would want that is pretty long. And does include the WH.
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WH no where near the top of the list. Not right now. After midterms RR is a dead man walking career wise.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The only thing I feel certain of is that the person who did it wanted to give Trump an excuse to fire RR. The list of people who would want that is pretty long. And does include the WH.
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The biggest challenge for claiming it's the WH is the sourcing of NYT article. Can't imagine who among the positions they suggested would be a Team Trumper.
 
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Stew Cook said:
Fact is, he's gonna have to fire him or let it ride. I suppose firing Sessions would work too.
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What if Sessions fires RR since he’s his boss and says , I didn’t trust him and I want someone I can trust as my DAG ?
 
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Stew Cook said:
You know I didn't think of that.
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I wondered all day yesterday with Trump catching all the heat. Sessions can do that and say it was me and it’s pretty much over because the narrative is Trump doesn’t like sessions .
 
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Stew Cook said:
Fact is, he's gonna have to fire him or let it ride. I suppose firing Sessions would work too.
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It would be stupid to fire him, if there is proof RR said or did any of what was in that article Sessions needs to demote him.
 
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0nelilreb said:
I wondered all day yesterday with Trump catching all the heat. Sessions can do that and say it was me and it’s pretty much over because the narrative is Trump doesn’t like sessions .
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Not sure that there wouldn't be any pitfalls, but I don't think Sessions will be keen on doing Trump any favors currently. Anything seems possible though.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Of course, had anyone even hinted at wearing a wire in the Obama White House, LG would be screaming for "TREASON!" and calling for their public dismemberment.
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Don't forget stockade and public whipping first. We must have order to punishment.
 
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