Roman Tubner gone too

[volbeast33]

No worries. If the full out system crashes and burns, it’ll be the end of the experiment at UT. I hope that as young as Kim is that she’ll understand going forward in her career that every coach has to adjust what they do every year and for sure has to have a workable Plan B at this level.

There is a video on here that explains why having a plan B was such a bad idea for Kim. It made a lot of sense.

 

[spojo13]

There is a video on here that explains why having a plan B was such a bad idea for Kim. It made a lot of sense.

Yes because she doesn’t know anything else, which is a huge problem as a coach. Geno has a Plan B, Dawn has a Plan B, Mulkey has a Plan B. They of course have their styles of offense and defense they are known for, but you saw Dawn go to Plan B and throw a zone at us, which ended up whipping our tails. She is going to have to adjust things if she is going to be a successful coach.

 

[volbeast33]

Yes because she doesn’t know anything else, which is a huge problem as a coach. Geno has a Plan B, Dawn has a Plan B, Mulkey has a Plan B. They of course have their styles of offense and defense they are known for, but you saw Dawn go to Plan B and throw a zone at us, which ended up whipping our tails. She is going to have to adjust things if she is going to be a successful coach.

You didn’t watch the video bc it didn’t have anything to do with what kim did or didn’t know.

 

[1reVOLver]

There is a video on here that explains why having a plan B was such a bad idea for Kim. It made a lot of sense.

She had a Plan B, but it was a really crappy Plan B. When her Plan A wasn’t working she switched to another plan that didn’t work. Good coaches have more than one plan, and they fine tune their alternate plans, plural, throughout the season.

 

[spojo13]

You didn’t watch the video bc it didn’t have anything to do with what kim did or didn’t know.

If there was a different video then let me know, but the one where she said that the issue with going to Plan B was it caused her to doubt herself and maybe caused the team to lose self confidence was the one I watched. However, what I’m saying is that you have to have a strong Plan B as a top tier coach to be successful. You have to have just as much belief and resolve in that adjustment as you do your main system. I honestly don’t think she has ever implemented or practiced a zone defense to change things up. If she has, we have never seen it. If a player is hot, you can use the Plan B to keep them in the moment instead of letting Jenna change them out.

 

[Lucy]

Maybe now she realizes her system sucks

Not a chance

 

[DarkPhoenix]

As long as he doesn’t give her an extension, he could fire her at the end of next season for the 2 million. Does the buyout go down even more April 1st of next year?

Yes it goes down to 1.5 million if she’s fired after April 1st next year.

 

[KnoxLikeUs]

I went back and watched some highlights from the 2024-2025 and 2025-2026 Tennessee teams under Coach Caldwell.

The main two differences were point guard and the bench play. Samara Spencer ran circles around Mia Pauldo, Kaniya Boyd, Nya Robertson, and Talaysia Cooper as a ball handler.

As a team leader, she ran circles around them. The bench was steady. Even if they weren’t scoring in games, they competed hard. They played as a unit.
It wasn’t the dismissal of Ruby Whitehorn.
If Ruby had played this season,
I don’t see much better than a plus 2-3 win total at best with this team.

They were shamefully undisciplined on the court as a team. They did not try to execute when you watch it on film over again.
The assistant coaches mainly Lazo did not even try to help coach.

Can’t put it all on Coach Caldwell and Coach Burdette.
If you find it hard to believe that Coach Caldwell is fully invested and WANTED to rebuild her program from the coaching staff then through the transfer portal you just wish to not see the truth.

 

[gm1ll]

 

[Volfaninfl2]

If there was a different video then let me know, but the one where she said that the issue with going to Plan B was it caused her to doubt herself and maybe caused the team to lose self confidence was the one I watched. However, what I’m saying is that you have to have a strong Plan B as a top tier coach to be successful. You have to have just as much belief and resolve in that adjustment as you do your main system. I honestly don’t think she has ever implemented or practiced a zone defense to change things up. If she has, we have never seen it. If a player is hot, you can use the Plan B to keep them in the moment instead of letting Jenna change them out.

I actually like Jenna, she seems like more of a people person, and she actually tries to coach in games. I’ve seen her comfort Kim, and she probably does the same for the players. I think she is following Kim’s orders with the subbing, else they wouldn’t be happening.

 

[volsagain]

There is a video on here that explains why having a plan B was such a bad idea for Kim. It made a lot of sense.

You know there's a answer for all the questions that are being asked on this form. BUT we're probably never get the full details. There was mutiny no doubt about it and probably started with a couple of players and spread all the way to the coaches. Kim has been very successful at every stop except this year and I believe that's why DW gave her another shot. They lost to NCst because #1 8 new players and never shot well #2 still learning to play together. Got killed by UCLA because not shooting well and UCLA was on fire. Lots of difference in last year's team and this one was determined to make it work even though didn't have the athletes. This year's team didn't have that at all and truly never worked that hard as a team with so many freshmen the upper classmen needed to set examples but didn't. The only problem I see with her system is the mass subbing and not leaving at least 2-3 starters in until the game is decided. Don't know how successful she will be next year , if not she's going have a long road to get back to where she wants to be.

 

[Ovol]

You know there's a answer for all the questions that are being asked on this form. BUT we're probably never get the full details. There was mutiny no doubt about it and probably started with a couple of players and spread all the way to the coaches. Kim has been very successful at every stop except this year and I believe that's why DW gave her another shot. They lost to NCst because #1 8 new players and never shot well #2 still learning to play together. Got killed by UCLA because not shooting well and UCLA was on fire. Lots of difference in last year's team and this one was determined to make it work even though didn't have the athletes. This year's team didn't have that at all and truly never worked that hard as a team with so many freshmen the upper classmen needed to set examples but didn't. The only problem I see with her system is the mass subbing and not leaving at least 2-3 starters in until the game is decided. Don't know how successful she will be next year , if not she's going have a long road to get back to where she wants to be.

Exactly why I haven’t came down on a ‘side’ yet.

 

[volfan102455]

I went back and watched some highlights from the 2024-2025 and 2025-2026 Tennessee teams under Coach Caldwell.

The main two differences were point guard and the bench play. Samara Spencer ran circles around Mia Pauldo, Kaniya Boyd, Nya Robertson, and Talaysia Cooper as a ball handler.

As a team leader, she ran circles around them. The bench was steady. Even if they weren’t scoring in games, they competed hard. They played as a unit.
It wasn’t the dismissal of Ruby Whitehorn.
If Ruby had played this season,
I don’t see much better than a plus 2-3 win total at best with this team.

They were shamefully undisciplined on the court as a team. They did not try to execute when you watch it on film over again.
The assistant coaches mainly Lazo did not even try to help coach.

Can’t put it all on Coach Caldwell and Coach Burdette.
If you find it hard to believe that Coach Caldwell is fully invested and WANTED to rebuild her program from the coaching staff then through the transfer portal you just wish to not see the truth.

Seriously it is the trying to place the issues on everyone else to avoid placing any blame on specific coaches that is the problem and causes distrust and discord on a group of people as a whole. The performance of the assistant coaches and the team is reflective of the leader who is directing all of them. If someone is not executing their part, it is the "leader's" responsibility to address that.

If there was discord - why did she not address it? Why did she not try to address what was happening on the court? The players absolutely were not being lazy - most of it was the other team disrupting what they were trying to do. And be it basketball or anything, if you keep doing the same thing over and over again and still have the same bad results, apathy does sit in and folks will give up. It is up to the leader of the team and that is the head coach to provide direction and encouragement to the team when things are not working out.

I don't question that CKC is fully invested - she has to be because if next year ends up like this year, she won't be here and there is probably not another D1 program that will invest in her as a coach. She was successful in D2 where the level of players is very different so that could easily end up as her only option. This is her one chance to prove her ability and to attempt to prove to those that this system is not a gimmick. I truly believe that she is set on proving the system is not a gimmick even if it means that may end her career as a coach at the D1 level.

The problem is that at the D1 level you have to be willing to adjust to your players and respond to what the other team on the court is doing.

 

[Volfaninfl2]

You know there's an answer for all the questions that are being asked on this form. BUT we're probably never get the full details. There was mutiny no doubt about it and probably started with a couple of players and spread all the way to the coaches. Kim has been very successful at every stop except this year and I believe that's why DW gave her another shot. They lost to NCst because #1 8 new players and never shot well #2 still learning to play together. Got killed by UCLA because not shooting well and UCLA was on fire. Lots of difference in last year's team and this one was determined to make it work even though didn't have the athletes. This year's team didn't have that at all and truly never worked that hard as a team with so many freshmen the upper classmen needed to set examples but didn't. The only problem I see with her system is the mass subbing and not leaving at least 2-3 starters in until the game is decided. Don't know how successful she will be next year , if not she's going have a long road to get back to where she wants to be.

They lost to NCST because “#2 still learning to play together” ? That was the last game they played this season.

 

[volsagain]

They lost to NCST because “#2 still learning to play together” ? That was the last game they played this season.

Did you miss the first game of the year ? Second game was when most had already checked Out. Well I better be more specific the second game with NCst was when they were checked Out.

 

[VolTenn25]

In the same breath, one could also say that bad mouthing every player we had would also not help the situation. What good does it do or what does it tell future players for Kim that you’ll be called selfish, money hungry, lazy, mutinous, disloyal, bad apples, cancers, etc. if things don’t go right? We’ve had plenty of that on here, as well. I personally don’t think much said on here has that much of an impact on what will happen. Kim isn’t going to win or lose over some comments on a message board.

You have a fair point. & I concur with some. But I wasn’t just talking about this message board. Twitter is verrrry loud. Tik tok is verrrry loud. To your point, why would any players want to come here & be subjected to some of these insane “fans” that hurl insults daily whether at games, on social media or on the streets? It’s out of hand & if you don’t think it’s happening not just on sm then you’re kidding yourself. The players should be held accountable but not belittled by anyone. Ever.

 

[Volfaninfl2]

Did you miss the first game of the year ? Second game was when most had already checked Out. Well I better be more specific the second game with NCst was when they were checked Out.

Oh I see, neither loss was on Kim.

 

[volsagain]

Oh I see, neither loss was on Kim.

Well I really never seen any of the coaches playing offense or defense I assume that's why the players weren't either. All I'm saying go back and look at the difference between this year and last year. Most games were very competitive last year but this team was destroyed from within.

 

[Volfaninfl2]

Well I really never seen any of the coaches playing offense or defense I assume that's why the players weren't either. All I'm saying go back and look at the difference between this year and last year. Most games were very competitive last year but this team was destroyed from within.

The buck stops with Kim.

 

[volsagain]

The buck stops with Kim.

If you read my book I stated she did not handle the situation and she better have learned from it. As this wasn't as obvious as the nose on our face. It was destroyed from within and she didn't know how to head it off. Look I only have a problem with her subbing, her offense and defense have been proven when run properly even with less athletic players. But her management of mutiny she blew it and cost her success and her whole team.

 

[creekdipper]

May not have enough bodies to field a team.

There's always the open tryouts option.

 

[TNnative]

You didn’t watch the video bc it didn’t have anything to do with what kim did or didn’t know.

Well, provide a link to the video. Kinda silly to just say "There is a video" and not put it in easy reach to prove whatever point you are trying to make.

 

[volfan102455]

Well I really never seen any of the coaches playing offense or defense I assume that's why the players weren't either. All I'm saying go back and look at the difference between this year and last year. Most games were very competitive last year but this team was destroyed from within.

Do you really believe this? It is the excuse being given but the entire team except for 1 who may leave, left the building. There are bigger issues than just the players.

 

[spojo13]

You have a fair point. & I concur with some. But I wasn’t just talking about this message board. Twitter is verrrry loud. Tik tok is verrrry loud. To your point, why would any players want to come here & be subjected to some of these insane “fans” that hurl insults daily whether at games, on social media or on the streets? It’s out of hand & if you don’t think it’s happening not just on sm then you’re kidding yourself. The players should be held accountable but not belittled by anyone. Ever.

We can agree on that. I tend to stay away from twitter because it is a cesspool that breeds negativity.

 

[volsagain]

Do you really believe this? It is the excuse being given but the entire team except for 1 who may leave, left the building. There are bigger issues than just the players.

I've said many times Kim blew it. She didn't handle what was happening and destroyed the whole team. Many reasons why she didn't get ahead of the situation and all would be speculation. But there needed to be suspensions and if coaches were siding with players needed to be dealt with. And with both main assistants leaving I think that was part of it. Would be interesting if a couple players come back out of the portal but I don't think that will happen.