Roe vs Wade Overturned

[Vol8188]

There's a reason why that was never a "norm" until now. You can play it off all you want. That's cool! It's unbelievably inappropriate for them though.

What’s inappropriate?

 

[Vol8188]

What percentage of these “babies” being “dismembered” would survive as preterm, considering a GIANT majority are done before 15 weeks? That language is a bit dramatic, and as someone stated earlier, there is nuance. It’s reasonable that not everyone views a non-viable fetus as a “baby.”

If this were only about 15 week abortions, the MS law would’ve never went to the Supreme Court. So let’s not hide. Let’s be real. The reason it went to court is because Roe v Wade originally allowed for 28 week elective abortions.

That’s a fully formed child at that point.

 

[OHvol40]

Extended period meaning what? How long ?

Multiple days

 

[Vol8188]

No they don’t. I’m for a mother’s liberty to choose the outcome until the fetus is viable to survive outside the uterus and not dependent on the placental exchange of nutrients, gasses, hormones, etc.

How does the child get nutrients outside the mother? Seems to be “dependent”.

But it’s such a strange argument in general. Why do you believe dependence to devalue life?

 

[Vol8188]

The one thing this thread absolutely confirms....men shouldn't be making decisions about women's bodies.

Agreed. Also only pedophiles and children should determine age of consent laws. Only murders and their victims should determine murder laws.

You realize how illogical your bumper sticker slogan is right?

 

[OHvol40]

If this were only about 15 week abortions, the MS law would’ve never went to the Supreme Court. So let’s not hide. Let’s be real. The reason it went to court is because Roe v Wade originally allowed for 28 week elective abortions.

That’s a fully formed child at that point.

Yeah, we’ll see if conservatives who are always worried about slippery slopes hold their own to account in this instance.

 

[OHvol40]

How does the child get nutrients outside the mother? Seems to be “dependent”.

But it’s such a strange argument in general. Why do you believe dependence to devalue life?

Because it’s not life until it can live on it’s own.

 

[615vols]

Because it’s not life until it can live on it’s own.

My son was way premature, and couldn’t have survived on his own. He spent good time in a nicu. He’s now 11. I can assure you he was very much “life”. Do you realize how stupid you sound?

 

[kiddiedoc]

Then that would fall under "lacking capacity."

So, the parent should be able to decide to kill the baby in that case?

 

[kiddiedoc]

My son was way premature, and couldn’t have survived on his own. He spent good time in a nicu. He’s now 11. I can assure you he was very much “life”. Do you realize how stupid you sound?

Like I said, one day in the NICU would change a lot of people's view on this matter.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Multiple days

Without controlled temperature and regular feeds, many newborns won't last 24 hours.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

So, the parent should be able to decide to kill the baby in that case?

Is the baby still growing inside the mother?

 

[kiddiedoc]

Is the baby still growing inside the mother?

Why does it matter?

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Like I said, one day in the NICU would change a lot of people's view on this matter.

NICU nurses and Doctors have my upmost respect.

 

[RikidyBones]

Because it’s not life until it can live on it’s own.

That's asinine. That would mean current premature babies are not considered a life. Newborns, are not considered a life.

What this tells me is that you lack experience with babies and any exposure to nicu. Your conditions for life are incoherent and unscientific.

 

[Vol8188]

Yeah, we’ll see if conservatives who are always worried about slippery slopes hold their own to account in this instance.

I’m not talking about slipper slopes but the actual law here.

 

[Vol8188]

Because it’s not life until it can live on it’s own.

That’s not how life works. Idk if you failed biology or something, but that’s not how any of this works

 

[ButchPlz]

Because it’s not life until it can live on it’s own.

Check it out, this moron is still in favor of slaughtering kids, the disabled, and many elderly.

It'S nOt LiFe UnTiL iT cAn LiVe On ItS oWn is about the stupidest take on this board.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

How does the child get nutrients outside the mother? Seems to be “dependent”.

But it’s such a strange argument in general. Why do you believe dependence to devalue life?

Why do you believe in slavery?

 

[Vol8188]

Why do you believe in slavery?

Go ahead…how is it slavery to not kill a child? And for clarification do you consider any restriction on abortion to be “slavery”

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Go ahead…how is it slavery to not kill a child? And for clarification do you consider any restriction on abortion to be “slavery”

Forcing a woman to do what she does not wish to do seems like forced labor

 

[Rickyvol77]

Forcing a woman to do what she does not wish to do seems like forced labor

Like not take meth or heroin during pregnancy? Is that “slavery” too

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Like not take meth or heroin during pregnancy? Is that “slavery” too

Gosh, is that only illegal during pregnancy?

 

[Rickyvol77]

Gosh, is that only illegal during pregnancy?

How about drinking alcohol during pregnancy

 

[Vol8188]

Forcing a woman to do what she does not wish to do seems like forced labor

So by your definition you consider any limit on abortion to be “slavery”? Just got clarification