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Vol8188 said:
Go ahead. Provide me their most authoritarian policies and we will compare it to China, cuba, and North Korea to see if anything is actually on par as you claim
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U are missing the point completely. Just because china is a extremist communist country doesn’t change norways ideology. First off they have universal healthcare . Second they have affordable tuition . Last they require rehab for all drug related arrest instead of prison .
 
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Forever151 said:
U are missing the point completely. Just because china is a extremist communist country doesn’t change norways ideology. First off they have universal healthcare . Second they have affordable tuition . Last they require rehab for all drug related arrest instead of prison .
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Literally nothing you just listed is authoritarian. You proclaimed you’re an authoritarian leftist and then claimed the countries you mentioned to also be authoritarian. Yet, you’ve not named how they’re authoritarian.

So let’s hear it
 
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Vol8188 said:
So to be clear this is your actual view:

1. Denmark and other countries you listed are “democratic socialists countries”

2. Bernie is a democratic socialists

3. Each country you listed has freer markets than our own

4. Bernie desires to remake us in their image

5. Bernie will decrease the amount of economic freedom we currently enjoy, yet this will make us more like the countries you listed that have greater economic freedom than us?

Which part am I wrong about?
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Bernie is trying to make us a country that is moving forward and yes Bernie has been saying forever that he believes in a lot of what those countries are doing . As do I .
 
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Forever151 said:
Bernie is trying to make us a country that is moving forward and yes Bernie has been saying forever that he believes in a lot of what those countries are doing . As do I .
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You either missed or ignored the point. Those countries have more economic freedom than we do. By a lot. How will Bernie improve economic freedom if you truly believe his desire is to be like those countries?

If the answer is “idk”, then you’re not going to convince anyone his goal is Denmark (it isn’t).
 
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Vol8188 said:
Literally nothing you just listed is authoritarian. You proclaimed you’re an authoritarian leftist and then claimed the countries you mentioned to also be authoritarian. Yet, you’ve not named how they’re authoritarian.

So let’s hear it
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I just did authoritarian is the belief in a more government control and less people control . Everything I just told u is controlled by the government . Socialism is a authoritarian viewpoint because the government has way more control then what we have
 
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Vol8188 said:
You either missed or ignored the point. Those countries have more economic freedom than we do. By a lot. How will Bernie improve economic freedom if you truly believe his desire is to be like those countries?

If the answer is “idk”, then you’re not going to convince anyone his goal is Denmark (it isn’t).
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u see saying they have more economic freedom . What do u consider more economic freedom there ?
 
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Vol423 said:
I’ve said repeatedly that you are FAR left of traditional liberals, and I am right. You’re either a stellar troll or the most uneducated individual to ever post in this forum. I’m now leaning heavily to the latter. You’re not sharp enough to troll.
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You are arguing with a Bernie Bro. Good luck.
 
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Vol8188 said:
You either missed or ignored the point. Those countries have more economic freedom than we do. By a lot. How will Bernie improve economic freedom if you truly believe his desire is to be like those countries?

If the answer is “idk”, then you’re not going to convince anyone his goal is Denmark (it isn’t).
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I said he believes PART of what they are doing would work . The only major difference is he would eventually like to shut down the oil industry
 
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Forever151 said:
I just did authoritarian is the belief in a more government control and less people control . Everything I just told u is controlled by the government . Socialism is a authoritarian viewpoint because the government has way more control then what we have
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Lower tuition is not “authoritarian”. Unless you believe they lowered tuition by putting a gun to the head of professors and making them take less pay.

Can you name how they’re authoritarian? What personal freedoms do they limit that you would consider abnormal relative to other countries
 
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Forever151 said:
I said he believes PART of what they are doing would work . The only major difference is he would eventually like to shut down the oil industry
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The major difference is he doesn’t believe in the capitalism part. Or he at least believes in it to a much lesser extent.

Once again we rank far below these countries in economic freedom. Bernie only wants to lessen economic freedom. Therefore you can’t claim he wants to make us like them, unless you’re able to tell me any policy of Bernie’s that would be more pro free market than what we currently have? So far you’ve got 0. Yet you need to show an overall push towards freer markets.
 
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Forever151 said:
Your not very smart . I have explained this 4 times and u refuse to understand . I’m not a liberal because I have way more extreme views then liberals do
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You're going to have tighten up your game if you want a seat at the table chief. This forum will eat you alive and it looks like they're already sharpening thier knives.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Oh, that will never happen. Same as helping who this is going to affect the most, which is low income women that can't afford to travel out of state. Neither will happen in red states, nothing will be done to help these women or kids. Nothing.
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The state government has never held me up in this crap, it has always been the slimy, unethical, evil Federal Government mostly flooded with Democrats.

Stupid requests like Prove my Citizenship to Department of Homeland Security (they don't know already) by emailing my birth certificate.
 
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Septic said:
"Individual freedom and private medical decisions are for losers." Said none of these people back when covid vaccines were the topic of the day.
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When has theocratic conservatism ever been consistent? Rules for thee, not for me is the golden rule of that bunch.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Lower tuition is not “authoritarian”. Unless you believe they lowered tuition by putting a gun to the head of professors and making them take less pay.

Can you name how they’re authoritarian? What personal freedoms do they limit that you would consider abnormal relative to other countries
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not much more I can say to u . Authoritarian has levels like all politics . Anytime u give the government control it makes something more authoritarian. The government controls college tuition and prevents independent college
 
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Forever151 said:
u see saying they have more economic freedom . What do u consider more economic freedom there ?
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Good question. It’s a measure of all regulations. Taxes, workers rights, environmental, administrative, anything that would impede a business or entrepreneur and make it more difficult for them.

You notice your countries have far more economic freedom than we do. And your boy, Bernie, wants to further limit our current economic freedom

Index of Economic Freedom: Promoting Economic Opportunity and Prosperity by Country
 
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