Robert Hubbs III development

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cncchris33 said:
You apparently didn't see him break his man down and drop an 18-footer in his face earlier in the 1st half.

As to your conditioning comment, you have some pretty lofty standards, and apparently little understanding of the human body. Cramps can occur at anytime due to lack of fluid caused by dehydration. Maybe he's sick, maybe he left it all out on the court and sweat his guts out. Step off the soap box. Cramps are not simply a result of a lack of conditioning. Watch how hard this team plays, and try to convince yourself that Tyndall doesn't have them well-conditioned.
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Well said Chris! The guy had a good game last night. Let us give credit where credit is due.
 
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What is a "curious" stat for me is the production he's getting on so few shots. If he shoots as much as Richardson maybe he would have the eye popping point numbers everyone is looking for. If you look at the last 5 games is has been one of the most efficient scorers we've had. Look at the big games he has had, his attempts were almost 30% more and his efficiency remained the same.
 
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imbubbaspitcup said:
Zo developed Moore,Stokes, & McRae also. Richardson was a superstar last year especially in the tournament sweet 16 run.
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Moore was not half the player the last few years that he is this year. Stokes was a 5 star player and McRae was a high 4 star. Donnie has unheralded guys playing to their full potential.
 
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griffdog14 said:
His final run was very impressive. Looks like he took a page out of Mike Conley's book
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That slip scared the crap out of me, but other than that it was great. Richardson was a bit panicky when Hubbs couldn't/didn't get the ball to him.

It seemed to work out.

p.s. I had to Google Mike Conley. I don't "do" the NBA.
 
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etsuvol13 said:
So martin didn't develope jrich and jordy? Maymon fits into this as well.
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Zo is a competent coach whose strength seems to be in developing players. Fan's bemoaning our fate when he left overhyped some his attributes but not that one. We don't need to slam Coach Martin every game, just because his replacement is a vastly superior game time coach. Just appreciate the improvement. :)
 
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imbubbaspitcup said:
Zo developed Moore,Stokes, & McRae also. Richardson was a superstar last year especially in the tournament sweet 16 run.
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U can make that same list for every single coach that has ever coached a game....it's impossible to know what is on the coach and what is the natural progression of the individual....the ones that work harder like JRICH will progress faster and better.
 
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I guess none of you watched the games , as I expected. Zo developed everyone on his team. No one he inherited had averaged more than 3 ppg. Hubbs was ranked higher, and averaged more hurt than anyone Zo got.

If you want to say he walked into talent then CDT gets no credit for Hubbs either. Hubbs was ranked WAY higher than any of them besides Stokes. J Rich is playing like he did in the tourney last year. Just because a player is ranked 4 stars doesn't mean they will develop or be good. Woodson was four stars what happened to him? Mostella and Owens were both 4 stars or close. Woolridge, Tatum, and Hall had already proven before Zo got here they were overrated.

If you want to bash Zo at least bash him for something he deserves, like recruiting or his offense. I guess you can't though since he did better in both than Tyndall has done so far.
 
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k-town_king said:
Woolridge, Tatum, and Hall had already proven before Zo got here they were overrated.
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Don't hate on Tatum. He was never the same after he got hurt. I still remember watching the first exhibition game when he was a freshman and how high he was flying--sad his wings got clipped.
 
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imbubbaspitcup said:
Zo developed Moore,Stokes, & McRae also. Richardson was a superstar last year especially in the tournament sweet 16 run.
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Moore no, Stokes no, McRae somewhat. Richardson blossomed in Dayton, the last 1/10th of season. In fact the whole team showed determination/desire from Dayton onward...that we hadn't seen prior.

Jmo...if Cuonzo had stuck around we'd be at 9-10 wins right now at best.
 
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k-town_king said:
I guess none of you watched the games , as I expected. Zo developed everyone on his team. No one he inherited had averaged more than 3 ppg. Hubbs was ranked higher, and averaged more hurt than anyone Zo got.

If you want to say he walked into talent then CDT gets no credit for Hubbs either. Hubbs was ranked WAY higher than any of them besides Stokes. J Rich is playing like he did in the tourney last year. Just because a player is ranked 4 stars doesn't mean they will develop or be good. Woodson was four stars what happened to him? Mostella and Owens were both 4 stars or close. Woolridge, Tatum, and Hall had already proven before Zo got here they were overrated.

If you want to bash Zo at least bash him for something he deserves, like recruiting or his offense. I guess you can't though since he did better in both than Tyndall has done so far.
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What the h&ll ever.....he doesn't have abetter offense then CDT.....I don't care what kind of stats that u want to use....I will take CDT's offense and coaching ten times out of ten....Give them the exact same rosters and CDT would win 9 times out of ten.....I am worried about his recruiting but Zo didn't do better that's for sure.
 
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volbeast33 said:
What the h&ll ever.....he doesn't have abetter offense then CDT.....I don't care what kind of stats that u want to use....I will take CDT's offense and coaching ten times out of ten....Give them the exact same rosters and CDT would win 9 times out of ten.....I am worried about his recruiting but Zo didn't do better that's for sure.
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This. Sometimes Kuonzo town needs a reminder.
 
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It's so interesting (ok its not) that so many on here take whatever chance they get to discuss previous coaches.
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k-town_king said:
I guess none of you watched the games , as I expected. Zo developed everyone on his team. No one he inherited had averaged more than 3 ppg. Hubbs was ranked higher, and averaged more hurt than anyone Zo got.

If you want to say he walked into talent then CDT gets no credit for Hubbs either. Hubbs was ranked WAY higher than any of them besides Stokes. J Rich is playing like he did in the tourney last year. Just because a player is ranked 4 stars doesn't mean they will develop or be good. Woodson was four stars what happened to him? Mostella and Owens were both 4 stars or close. Woolridge, Tatum, and Hall had already proven before Zo got here they were overrated.

If you want to bash Zo at least bash him for something he deserves, like recruiting or his offense. I guess you can't though since he DID BETTER IN BOTH THAN TYNDALL HAS DONE SO FAR.
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:lolabove: Priceless...you write a rational reasonable post and then Cobra Kai the whole thing.
 

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TNVOLFN said:
I hope you're right... He was the only 5 star player on the court last night and I just keep waiting for him to take over games, yet he seems very passive. The last play of regulation was incredible, I just knew he was going to dominate OT. Instead, he was cramping on the sideline, which tells me he didn't take care of business in the offseason as far as conditioning and pushing his limits go. Great kid and VFL, but I need to see some more moxy.
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Funny-The conditioning of this team is what has helped them win so much in the 2nd half. Most nights out manned 9 to 13.
 
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colvol said:
Calm down, Martin developed players well.
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Uh...no he did not. Josh Richardson drives that point home and Stokes did not progress as he should have. Maymon couldn't even hit a layup for gosh sakes. That was a ridiculous statement.
 
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butchna said:
Zo is a competent coach whose strength seems to be in developing players. Fan's bemoaning our fate when he left overhyped some his attributes but not that one. We don't need to slam Coach Martin every game, just because his replacement is a vastly superior game time coach. Just appreciate the improvement. :)
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That's not the Vol-Nation way.
 
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therealitytheory said:
Moore no, Stokes no, McRae somewhat. Richardson blossomed in Dayton, the last 1/10th of season. In fact the whole team showed determination/desire from Dayton onward...that we hadn't seen prior.

Jmo...if Cuonzo had stuck around we'd be at 9-10 wins right now at best.
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So true!
 
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Not to denigrate CCM but I saw CDT coaching his butt off last night at Vandy. He was the one designing the last play in reg to get the win. Haven't seen that lately
 
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CNeagleVolFan said:
I know Hubbs is just now starting to become a decent player, but we have to remember he's still young. He was a post player in high school, and not used to shooting 3's a lot because he could just take it to the hole. I know we're losing J-Rich next season, but if Hubbs keeps developing his shot he can fill it up! Then we have Moore and Reese back as well as punter and mostella(hopefully he develops). All I'm saying is I think Hubbs is trending up, and next season can be his breakout season.
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uhm you have that wrong. I played against robert two years ago when he was at dyer co. He was a shooting guard and went 8 for 10 from the 3 point line. so he is definitely used to shooting 3s because he was pulling up from about 6 feet behind the line. he was not a post player he brought the ball up the floor most of the time. he rarely took it to the hole in high school because he could shoot so well.
 
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Jh_vols21 said:
uhm you have that wrong. I played against robert two years ago when he was at dyer co. He was a shooting guard and went 8 for 10 from the 3 point line. so he is definitely used to shooting 3s because he was pulling up from about 6 feet behind the line. he was not a post player he brought the ball up the floor most of the time. he rarely took it to the hole in high school because he could shoot so well.
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THANK YOU very much for your insight.

Keep on posting.
 
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