Rivals is very impressed with Kiffin! Will it help recruiting?

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Rivals also believes Clawson had NO QB talent at UT. Maybe a good prospect will change gears and sign. If not, Lane, Chaney, and Reaves better develop one of our three very quickly.

My money is on Coleman. Cromton has talent. But, he gets the deer in the headlight look. When he is under pressure!
 
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Cromton was a typo. My typing is sometimes as bad as Crompton's play at QB, terrible. Let's hope our Vols kick tail in 2009!
 
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VolsZealot said:
Its possible but not likely. If you read the whole article one guy was even excited about Bowling greens hiring of Clawson. I would say Bowling green will be much easier than UT but I am not sure I would say its an exciting or impressive hire.
I doubt these kids are that worried about what rivals has to say about the coaches anyhow.
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Good point, but, good publicity does't hurt. I think Clawson is better than was shown. I am sure Fulmer never made the players commit to fitting Clawson's system. Fulmer slit his own throat!
 
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volsgrad89 said:
Good point, but, good publicity does't hurt. I think Clawson is better than was shown. I am sure Fulmer never made the players commit to fitting Clawson's system. Fulmer slit his own throat!
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Good publicity never hurts your right about that. I am just not sure it will really make a difference to these kids coming in. Now if there is enough good publicity, not just one article, it might get a few more to at least consider UT.
I wish nothing but the best for Clawson. Fulmer may have been a major reason why things didint work. I thing is thats he wont have quite as much pressure on him there was at UT.
 
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I really hope Greg Schiano from Rutgers will take the BC job. That would open the door for Tom Savage.
 
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govols87 said:
one guy from Rivals is pretty impressed with the CLK hiring.
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it would be a pretty boring article if they all said the same guy :p.

I believe UT is on to something with the 'sum of the parts' thing and think we will see it more in the future. It was still the best hire we could have made IMO.
 
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I'm really not understanding how the national media is downplaying the Kiffin hire as being a huge gamble. Lane is a great recruiter and was the OC during USCs most successful period and had great stats. Monte is possibly the best DC in NFL history and Coach O is one of the best recruiters in college and a great DL coach. Throw in Reaves who is a top 25 recruiter, Cheney who was a successful OC and recruiter and keep Drayton who is a top 25 recruiter. We also are looking to land a couple of other good position coaches and possibly Eddie Gran. WTF would it take to impress people? If I had known in November that this is the staff Kiffin would assemble then I would have been foaming at the mouth to get him and would have been heartbroken if we didn't. To me, this hire is so far beyond any other offseason hire that there should be no comparison.
 
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gainesvol82 said:
I'm really not understanding how the national media is downplaying the Kiffin hire as being a huge gamble. Lane is a great recruiter and was the OC during USCs most successful period and had great stats. Monte is possibly the best DC in NFL history and Coach O is one of the best recruiters in college and a great DL coach. Throw in Reaves who is a top 25 recruiter, Cheney who was a successful OC and recruiter and keep Drayton who is a top 25 recruiter. We also are looking to land a couple of other good position coaches and possibly Eddie Gran. WTF would it take to impress people? If I had known in November that this is the staff Kiffin would assemble then I would have been foaming at the mouth to get him and would have been heartbroken if we didn't. To me, this hire is so far beyond any other offseason hire that there should be no comparison.
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I agree... I was pulling for Muschamp but in retrospect, had I known this was what the Vols staff was going to be I wouldn't have wanted ANYBODY but CLK. I'm glad he's here now and I hope he sticks around long enough to see the job through.
 
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Personally... I don't think any of the national media want to go on record saying it's a great hire and then eat crow if it doesn't work out. They are calling it a gamble, not a bad hire. That way they can come back at the end of the season when TN is kicking butt and taking names that they didn't say it was a bad hire!
 
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Section_P_Row_48 said:
Personally... I don't think any of the national media want to go on record saying it's a great hire and then eat crow if it doesn't work out. They are calling it a gamble, not a bad hire. That way they can come back at the end of the season when TN is kicking butt and taking names that they didn't say it was a bad hire!
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They just play both sides of the fence. A few of them stick their foot in their mouths, but the better ones tend to avoid doing that.
 
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The simple truth is, nobody knows how Lane'll do. We just don't.

When you follow the Vols so closely as we do, you see things to make you feel good or get a little excited... But calling this a gamble is about as accurate as it can be put.
 
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orange+white=heaven said:
The simple truth is, nobody knows how Lane'll do. We just don't.

When you follow the Vols so closely as we do, you see things to make you feel good or get a little excited... But calling this a gamble is about as accurate as it can be put.
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Let's pretend that you don't know who the HC is but this is how he was described to you.

*Young, disciple of Pete Caroll who was credited with being a great recruiter and OC in his tenure.

*Has NFL experience(We all agree wins/losses in NFL don't translate to college.)

*Hired Monte Kiffin as DC, Ed Orgeron as DL/Assoc HC

*Hired David Reaves from SC and Jim Cheney from St. Louis

*Hired one of the best S&C coaches in the business in Mark Smith

*Is set to either retain Drayton or hire Gran, possibly both.

How many HCs would you gamble against being successful with that kind of staff? Just being able to line up that kind of talent on one staff shows something special. Does anybody really think all of these guys would line up to coach with a "daddys boy silver spoon fed hack" that the media portrays him to be?
 
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gainesvol82 said:
Let's pretend that you don't know who the HC is but this is how he was described to you.

*Young, disciple of Pete Caroll who was credited with being a great recruiter and OC in his tenure.

*Has NFL experience(We all agree wins/losses in NFL don't translate to college.)

*Hired Monte Kiffin as DC, Ed Orgeron as DL/Assoc HC

*Hired David Reaves from SC and Jim Cheney from St. Louis

*Hired one of the best S&C coaches in the business in Mark Smith

*Is set to either retain Drayton or hire Gran, possibly both.

How many HCs would you gamble against being successful with that kind of staff? Just being able to line up that kind of talent on one staff shows something special. Does anybody really think all of these guys would line up to coach with a "daddys boy silver spoon fed hack" that the media portrays him to be?
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That last part, I think you're overdramatizing a bit..

The rest, as I said, there is plenty to point at and feel good about. For me though, it's still a calculated risk. A gamble. Media, and many general fans, jump to the lure of a more tangible resume(ala Brian Kelly). It's solid logic applied to need. It's reasonable thinking.

I'm giving Hamilton a lot of credit for this move. I think it pays off, and faster than many believe. Fact remains though. We don't know... It is in fact, a gamble. A risk taken by an A-list program.
 
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orange+white=heaven said:
That last part, I think you're overdramatizing a bit..

The rest, as I said, there is plenty to point at and feel good about. For me though, it's still a calculated risk. A gamble. Media, and many general fans, jump to the lure of a more tangible resume(ala Brian Kelly). It's solid logic applied to need. It's reasonable thinking.

I'm giving Hamilton a lot of credit for this move. I think it pays off, and faster than many believe. Fact remains though. We don't know... It is in fact, a gamble. A risk taken by an A-list program.
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Have you seen/heard some of the comments made about the Kiffin hire and what he deserves? There is an element of jealousy about the advantages that Kiffin's pedigree has afforded him.
 
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Steve Megargee's answer:
I wasn't particularly thrilled with any of the hires. Most of the schools with openings seemed more interested in hiring promising young assistants with reputations as sold recruiters rather than going after proven head coaches. The notable exception was Auburn, though it's tough to call Gene Chizik a "proven" head coach when he had such a dismal record at Iowa State. If Texas Tech's Mike Leach truly was available, I have a tough time understanding why Washington, Tennessee or Auburn didn't make a serious push for him. Auburn's decision to select Chizik was one of the more mystifying moves by a major college program that I've seen in recent memory. Since I was disappointed with the moves made by teams from the big-time programs, it's no surprise I'm going outside the "Big Six" conferences to find my favorite coaching hire of the offseason. Wyoming hasn't enjoyed a winning season since 2004 despite traditionally fielding a solid defense. The problem has been offense. Wyoming scored the fewest points in the nation this season and managed more than 21 points in a game just once. Former Missouri offensive coordinator Dave Christensen should help the Cowboys correct that problem. Christensen, a 2007 finalist for the Frank Broyles Award that goes to the nation's top assistant, helped Missouri rank in the top 10 in scoring each of the past two seasons. His offenses at Missouri generally were more explosive than the USC offenses coordinated by Steve Sarkisian and Lane Kiffin, who landed head-coaching jobs at Washington and Tennessee, respectively. If Christensen can build a respectable offense while helping Wyoming remain solid on defense, the Cowboys could be back in bowl contention as soon as next season.
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how does this guy get paid for his opinion?
 
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gainesvol82 said:
I'm really not understanding how the national media is downplaying the Kiffin hire as being a huge gamble. Lane is a great recruiter and was the OC during USCs most successful period and had great stats. Monte is possibly the best DC in NFL history and Coach O is one of the best recruiters in college and a great DL coach. Throw in Reaves who is a top 25 recruiter, Cheney who was a successful OC and recruiter and keep Drayton who is a top 25 recruiter. We also are looking to land a couple of other good position coaches and possibly Eddie Gran. WTF would it take to impress people? If I had known in November that this is the staff Kiffin would assemble then I would have been foaming at the mouth to get him and would have been heartbroken if we didn't. To me, this hire is so far beyond any other offseason hire that there should be no comparison.
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I agree. If the name recognition translates into wins, the Vols will be doing fine in a little while.

But that's the gamble - because there is no guarantee that these big names translate into wins. Hey, I feel better with this group of coaches than I would with a group on no name coaches.

But that's just me. :)
 
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Clawson had a brutal season as Tennessee's offensive coordinator, but it's hard to have success on offense when your quarterbacks aren't that talented.
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Coleman and perhaps Stephens are more talented than a lot of people give them credit for.

It's hard to have success on offense when the coaching sucks, Mr. Huguenin. :dry:
 
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It's also hard to be a successful qb when your O line couldn't block a baby in a stroller. Last years games were hard to watch, to say the least. Game plan was awful, in-game coaching was horrible, and the players were playing uninspired. Look for all of that to change.
 
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