Rick Barnes discussion (merged)

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feathersax said:
Yes you do.
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No, I don't. But it's ridiculous to make the claim that championships don't matter. I swear some people are so sensitive about Barnes that they think anything critical about his job performance is rampaging hate. Barnes is the third best coach we've ever had. Barnes is notorious for losing during the time when coaching legends are made. Both are true.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
No, I don't. But it's ridiculous to make the claim that championships don't matter. I swear some people are so sensitive about Barnes that they think anything critical about his job performance is rampaging hate. Barnes is the third best coach we've ever had. Barnes is notorious for losing during the time when coaching legends are made. Both are true.
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Your statement that he is the third best coach UT has ever had is an opinion, not a fact. Just like my opinion is he is the best coach UT has ever had, although I think there is more data to back up my claim that he is the best coach than your claim that he is the third best. I don’t have time to get into all of that, but it’s not just about winning and losing (which he is very good at) but also about the class with which he runs the program.

Rick Barnes has stabilized the program and lifted it to a level of consistency and class that it has never had before, imo. The man is professionalism personified, not self-promoting gimmickry. People that do not appreciate what this man has done as the UT head coach need to open their eyes and appreciate what we have.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
No, I don't. But it's ridiculous to make the claim that championships don't matter. I swear some people are so sensitive about Barnes that they think anything critical about his job performance is rampaging hate. Barnes is the third best coach we've ever had. Barnes is notorious for losing during the time when coaching legends are made. Both are true.
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You can’t say coaches are defined only by March and also say Mears was better than Barnes here. Mears had zero tournament wins.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
Forgot about that one.

However, it’s still stupid to base a HC off March Madness.
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Except it's not. Without 6 rings Jordan was a ball hog. Without 4, LeBron is a choker. Without 1, Boeheim was too. Though he had a ton of final fours. In football before 1993, Bobby Bowden was viewed the same way. He once said in an interview "they'll put on my tombstone "but he played Miami". Because Miami had cost him his first title more than once.

Championships are where legends are written. John Wooden with no titles would be the biggest choker in sports history.

It's the perception by the majority of basketball fans and why SEC network felt the need to dedicate a segment to it. I can't for the life of me even understand why some of you care about the seeding we get in the NCAA tournament when you apparently don't care what happens there.
 
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cardvolfan said:
Yeah, and you know better than Farnham. 😂😂😂😂
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In this case, I don't need a talking head opinion to try and sell me something I know isn't true. When they name NCAA legends you'll hear Wooden a hundred years from now. You won't hear guys who didn't get it done in March.
 
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SGMVols said:
You can’t say coaches are defined only by March and also say Mears was better than Barnes here. Mears had zero tournament wins.
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Mears coached here longer, won more games here, recruited the best players ever seen here and would have made more NCAAs in the 64 team era Barnes enjoys. Mears didn't get to play 15 seeds.
 
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ReggieJohnsonFan said:
Your statement that he is the third best coach UT has ever had is an opinion . Just like my opinion is he is the best coach in UT has ever had, although I think there is more data to back up my claim that he is the best coach, then your claim that he is the third best.

Rick Barns has stabilized the program and lifted it to a level of consistency and class that it has never had before. People that do not appreciate what this man has done as the UT head coach need to open their eyes and appreciate what we have.
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I'd take Mears and Pearl over him. I can't really see how anyone wouldn't. But that's me.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
In this case, I don't need a talking head opinion to try and sell me something I know isn't true. When they name NCAA legends you'll hear Wooden a hundred years from now. You won't hear guys who didn't get it done in March.
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I’ll be in pretty rough shape if I’m hearing about Wooden in 100 years.
 
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ReggieJohnsonFan said:
Your statement that he is the third best coach UT has ever had is an opinion, not a fact. Just like my opinion is he is the best coach UT has ever had, although I think there is more data to back up my claim that he is the best coach than your claim that he is the third best. I don’t have time to get into all of that, but it’s not just about winning and losing (which he is very good at) but also about the class with which he runs the program.

Rick Barnes has stabilized the program and lifted it to a level of consistency and class that it has never had before, imo. The man is professionalism personified, not self-promoting gimmickry. People that do not appreciate what this man has done as the UT head coach need to open their eyes and appreciate what we have.
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Good stuff, RJF. It’s the malcontents who speak most often and the loudest. I just laugh at the absurdity.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Pearl was in decline and wasn’t going to be able to keep playing in the gray area here. He was done.
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Pearl wasn't in decline. His last season was chaos due to his stupid lie to the NCAA and the Tennessee ADs terrible handling of the whole thing. We were 28-9 and in the Elite 8 the year prior. Literally he was less than 12 months from the best season in school history when he was fired.
 
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