Retread University

[rdl2k7]

I still don’t understand the logic behind giving complete control of the program to the same guy that was fired a decade earlier. Should’ve hired Blackburn, then brought Phil in as a special advisor. It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.

We hired a hotshot Admin once at work who was the next big thing. We felt we were in a rut. We let them make some decisions regarding some people and within 6 months we looked at the new hotshot and realized how big of a mistake we had made thinking that the current people were the problem. We took a real hard look at ourselves and ended up hiring some of the people back. We realized it wasn't the employees that were the problems but us as leaders who weren't focusing on the right things and placing blame instead of holding them to different and changing expectations. When you put the wrong people in charge of decision making, sometimes they make the wrong decisions. And when you realize it later, you have to fix it. You said "it didn't make any sense" If you look at it from the logic I gave, it does. I'm not saying Fulmer is the right or wrong guy, I'm just saying it isn't complete idiocy.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Miles might be a solid fit under the current circumstances. He's not a long term solution. Can't see him here more than 3-5 at the most. Big question will be what kind of staff can he put together. I can see him and Fulmer working well together. I'm expecting it to go down this way.

Because of age?

What if the dude goes lights out and UT is winning 10+ a year? I wouldn't care if he started looking and moving like father time.

 

[Pooods]

I am sorry but Phil is who started our downward plunge by sitting back and looking at his n.c. ring and bragging about coaching manning. He dropped the ball. Kiffen then killed us by kicking us when we were down. The next 2 tried but we're out of their leauges. Now we have the first one back running the show. I only hope Phil now realizes he started this mess and rights his wrong.

 

[daj2576]

I'm speaking as a Vol fan from the Millennial generation. My generation is tired of old white retreads making all of the decisions regarding coaching hires, coaching firings, financial decisions etc. We need a youth movement in all areas of our athletic administration from the BOT down to the waterboy on the team. We are a generation that is used to expressing our valuable opinions on social media and effecting change with those opinions. We do not like or appreciate top down, authoritative decision making from out of touch old white men when it has a huge effect on the world we live in. We as a generation understand the times better than those over age 45 and it is high time that we are given our due in the decision making on the Hill. Not only here but across this country in all areas of social, political, financial and religious areas of society. We are the future and we are a special generation who has arrived at just the right time to move this country and the world in a better direction based on our vision for the future.


I posted this in another thread. It's time to let the younger generation take the lead in this. We are Retread U with Fulmer and now possibly Miles. We need both an under forty coach and AD and administration for that matter. The future is now for the Millennial generation and we should be given the reins for the good of the school and athletic department.

The fact that you used age and race as determining factors at least twice in this plea for control is more of an indictment than a resume.

 

[tumscalcium]

The fact that you used age and race as determining factors at least twice in this plea for control is more of an indictment than a resume.

I took it as satire.

 

[cheeznuts]

"It feels like Retread University"
Then why are u here??
Move on!
If you don't get it! Then Get!

I mean you might not agree with it, but it's hardly the worst observation you could make with everything going on lol

 

[cookingvol]

Ok so this will rub people the wrong way but I’m looking for some decent feedback. First, Fulmer doesn’t excite me at all - in fact, it’s the opposite. It feels old and stale. In addition, what little “insider” info I have on him isn’t good (this was from when he was fired). He’s power hungry and always has been in my opinion (which means Gruden is out for all the Grudenites). Regardless, he hasn’t been involved in college football in a decade, no one hired him after he was fired, and now he’s rumored to be looking at Les Miles - who also went unhired after being fired (and LSU seems to be doing fine without him).

So what I’m asking is - why does hiring retreads that didn’t get hired by anyone else feel exciting? Because Fulmer bleeds orange? I bleed orange and I have no business near an AD office or football field.

I fear Fulmer is on a power run to get back everyone that “wronged” him when he was fired. That’s the wrong motivation. He has no attachment to younger coaches or fan bases. In the end, he doesn’t excite me and neither does Les Miles.

It feels like Retread University.

so are you one of those grudeneers. gruden was out way before currie was fired as i hve said before those who still think we could get him are living in a fantasy world where a cruise ship would come up to the stadium to take folks on a 15 day trip to port a rico

 

[shotgun83]

Ok so this will rub people the wrong way but I’m looking for some decent feedback. First, Fulmer doesn’t excite me at all - in fact, it’s the opposite. It feels old and stale. In addition, what little “insider” info I have on him isn’t good (this was from when he was fired). He’s power hungry and always has been in my opinion (which means Gruden is out for all the Grudenites). Regardless, he hasn’t been involved in college football in a decade, no one hired him after he was fired, and now he’s rumored to be looking at Les Miles - who also went unhired after being fired (and LSU seems to be doing fine without him).

So what I’m asking is - why does hiring retreads that didn’t get hired by anyone else feel exciting? Because Fulmer bleeds orange? I bleed orange and I have no business near an AD office or football field.

I fear Fulmer is on a power run to get back everyone that “wronged” him when he was fired. That’s the wrong motivation. He has no attachment to younger coaches or fan bases. In the end, he doesn’t excite me and neither does Les Miles.

It feels like Retread University.

Currie was essential to Fulmer losing his job to begin with.
I personally didn't like how the team had become undisciplined off the field.. and regardless of what Dooley did or didn't accomplish.. he was the first to really correct that mistake.

Secondly, I think Fulmer wants to bring the glory and prestige back to the university..

I can't speak for his motivations, I just hope time didn't pass him by.

 

[Volfan615]

Ok so this will rub people the wrong way but I’m looking for some decent feedback. First, Fulmer doesn’t excite me at all - in fact, it’s the opposite. It feels old and stale. In addition, what little “insider” info I have on him isn’t good (this was from when he was fired). He’s power hungry and always has been in my opinion (which means Gruden is out for all the Grudenites). Regardless, he hasn’t been involved in college football in a decade, no one hired him after he was fired, and now he’s rumored to be looking at Les Miles - who also went unhired after being fired (and LSU seems to be doing fine without him).

So what I’m asking is - why does hiring retreads that didn’t get hired by anyone else feel exciting? Because Fulmer bleeds orange? I bleed orange and I have no business near an AD office or football field.

I fear Fulmer is on a power run to get back everyone that “wronged” him when he was fired. That’s the wrong motivation. He has no attachment to younger coaches or fan bases. In the end, he doesn’t excite me and neither does Les Miles.

It feels like Retread University.

First of all I hit like by accident. Secondly come back with that garbage after we have won a SEC championship.

I was one of those that though we needed to fire Fulmer. I thought the game had passed him by. I was wrong and will admit it. That was the one of the worst mistakes this university has ever made. We wouldn't be in the situation now if not for that.

 

[jakez4ut]

Heh.

Fulmer, old? Absolutely. Stale? Not for a minute.

Dunno if you watched the press conference Friday, but the aura of command about Phil was palpable. He is a unifying force, a reassuring presence, and a catalyst toward championships.

His character has always been noted for selflessness. That should continue. Your fears of a "power run" are baseless.

It is true that he hasn't been directly involved in leading a football program in a decade. That is hardly pertinent, since he is not being asked to lead one now. He is the AD, not the coach.

I certainly hope Les Miles is not the best we can do in this search (no dig on Les, he's a very good coach, I just have my sights set a bit higher). But I trust Phil implicitly to do what's best for Tennessee. He will find us the best coach current circumstances will allow.

point 1, agree 100%

point 2, i wouldn't say they're "baseless" all together...Phil has an ego, and he made it pretty clear he wanted the AD job last year. and it's no secret he and Currie weren't exactly exchanging christmas cards....rather, i'd prefer to think he simply had the best interests of the UTAD at heart, and seeing Currie/haslam ousted, was just a happy bonus.

point 3, agree 100%

 

[AM64]

There's a reason why we don't use typewriters anymore...

Yeah, but if you notice most of the keys are still in the same place on the keyboard as they were on a typewriter. Typewriter retreads manage keyboards just fine, and I've never actually seen whiteout on a monitor..

 

[arkyvol]

Ok so this will rub people the wrong way but I’m looking for some decent feedback. First, Fulmer doesn’t excite me at all - in fact, it’s the opposite. It feels old and stale. In addition, what little “insider” info I have on him isn’t good (this was from when he was fired). He’s power hungry and always has been in my opinion (which means Gruden is out for all the Grudenites). Regardless, he hasn’t been involved in college football in a decade, no one hired him after he was fired, and now he’s rumored to be looking at Les Miles - who also went unhired after being fired (and LSU seems to be doing fine without him).

So what I’m asking is - why does hiring retreads that didn’t get hired by anyone else feel exciting? Because Fulmer bleeds orange? I bleed orange and I have no business near an AD office or football field.

I fear Fulmer is on a power run to get back everyone that “wronged” him when he was fired. That’s the wrong motivation. He has no attachment to younger coaches or fan bases. In the end, he doesn’t excite me and neither does Les Miles.

It feels like Retread University.

Talk about convoluted logic. Phil is old and stale because he's been out of coaching for ten years, but Gruden (the quintessential unicorn) who has been out of coaching even longer is what we need? I'll take 'old & stale' any day over young and incompetent.

 

[johnrlansford]

I still don’t understand the logic behind giving complete control of the program to the same guy that was fired a decade earlier. Should’ve hired Blackburn, then brought Phil in as a special advisor. It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.

Blackburn isn't even an AD right now, he resigned at UTC. Many believe it was soemthing that was about to come out about him as to why he resigned. We still shouldn't have hired him. Fulmer is the man for the job right now, its all about stability!

 

[Burger]

Blackburn isn't even an AD right now, he resigned at UTC. Many believe it was soemthing that was about to come out about him as to why he resigned. We still shouldn't have hired him. Fulmer is the man for the job right now, its all about stability!

We just fired a guy who goes 8-4 every year. Stability is very overrated.

 

[Burger]

Yeah, but if you notice most of the keys are still in the same place on the keyboard as they were on a typewriter. Typewriter retreads manage keyboards just fine, and I've never actually seen whiteout on a monitor..

You don't need whiteout because it's not permanent until you hit send or print. Les Miles is a offensive guy with horrible offenses who often blew it with a team more talented than Bama.

 

[Type Orange+]

I fear Fulmer is on a power run to get back everyone that “wronged” him when he was fired. That’s the wrong motivation.

I can say this with no amount of hesitation; Phil Fulmer has a burning desire to restore Tennessee football to its former glory and even on to greater heights.

Now, here in the modern age of Tennessee football, when you lose 4 out the last 6 meetings with Vanderbilt you have reached rock bottom. That is all the motivation one needs.

But desire isn't everything. Whether he has the aptitude to get the job done remains to be seen.