Retread University

[Rasputin_Vol]

When was Fulmer our AD?

He never said Fulmer was AD. He said he was fired. You do remember when he was fired as head coach... right?

 

[99gator]

The problem resulting from the firing of Currie is it has left people with the impression that now there are more options available in the coaching search.

There aren’t. Choices are limited. Options are not desirable.

The choice Fulmer is eventually going to make, he doesn’t want to hire either

 

[Advol]

"It feels like Retread University"
Then why are u here??
Move on!
If you don't get it! Then Get!

 

[bhouston79]

Ok so this will rub people the wrong way but I’m looking for some decent feedback. First, Fulmer doesn’t excite me at all - in fact, it’s the opposite. It feels old and stale. In addition, what little “insider” info I have on him isn’t good (this was from when he was fired). He’s power hungry and always has been in my opinion (which means Gruden is out for all the Grudenites). Regardless, he hasn’t been involved in college football in a decade, no one hired him after he was fired, and now he’s rumored to be looking at Les Miles - who also went unhired after being fired (and LSU seems to be doing fine without him).

So what I’m asking is - why does hiring retreads that didn’t get hired by anyone else feel exciting? Because Fulmer bleeds orange? I bleed orange and I have no business near an AD office or football field.

I fear Fulmer is on a power run to get back everyone that “wronged” him when he was fired. That’s the wrong motivation. He has no attachment to younger coaches or fan bases. In the end, he doesn’t excite me and neither does Les Miles.

It feels like Retread University.

Well Texas A&M just paid 75 million for their retread that finished his last year at FSU with a 6-6 record. In contrast, Les Miles finished his last full season at LSU with a10-3 record and never won less than 8 games during his 11 year tenure. During his 11 year tenure at LSU, he also won 3 West Divsion Titles, 2 SEC Titles, and a national title. His W/L % is well over .700. And the year he was fired from LSU he was 2-2 at the time of his firing with loses of less than a touchdown to Wisconsin and Auburn, both of whom had good seasons that year. So it's not as if you can claim that he allowed LSU to deteriorate. I don't know who folks who hate Les Miles so much think we are going to get that is any better.

 

[rnhturner]

He had a big ego, micromanaged things while he was here. Didn't hire the best assistants that he could because of it. If he does the same thing as AD it won't go over well.

I agree he didn't want to change things up. I could get on board with the word "stubborn", but "ego" seems to go too far.

 

[GetYouSomeofThat]

Ok so this will rub people the wrong way but I’m looking for some decent feedback. First, Fulmer doesn’t excite me at all - in fact, it’s the opposite. It feels old and stale. In addition, what little “insider” info I have on him isn’t good (this was from when he was fired). He’s power hungry and always has been in my opinion (which means Gruden is out for all the Grudenites). Regardless, he hasn’t been involved in college football in a decade, no one hired him after he was fired, and now he’s rumored to be looking at Les Miles - who also went unhired after being fired (and LSU seems to be doing fine without him).

So what I’m asking is - why does hiring retreads that didn’t get hired by anyone else feel exciting? Because Fulmer bleeds orange? I bleed orange and I have no business near an AD office or football field.

I fear Fulmer is on a power run to get back everyone that “wronged” him when he was fired. That’s the wrong motivation. He has no attachment to younger coaches or fan bases. In the end, he doesn’t excite me and neither does Les Miles.

It feels like Retread University.

Everyday I am thankful for VN and some of its posters. They allow me the opportunity to be amazed each and every time I visit the site..

An honest to god VFL like Fulmer gets ran down and his loyalty questioned by some folks. He is THE definition of Vol For Life.

A guy that risked a very lucrative NFL career to play one more year at UT gets made fun of by some here. All because he may or may not have supported or didn't support their most hated it most loved coach.

A guy that has little coaching experience at the college level gets more love than either of the first two. A guy eho didn't attend school here and has only tenuous ties to the university ( he married a former UT cheerleader) has dyed-in-the-wool followers who really think he's going to coach here. Worse than just thinking that, they WANT him to coach here.


A guy that embarrassed the football team, pissed in UT traditions and treated this program like a whore, is more highly though if by some on VN than the first two. A guy who has had two opportunities at Poeer 5 programs and failed at both...



If that isn't amazing I don't know what is.

 

[RiseToTheTop]

Ok so this will rub people the wrong way but I’m looking for some decent feedback. First, Fulmer doesn’t excite me at all - in fact, it’s the opposite. It feels old and stale. In addition, what little “insider” info I have on him isn’t good (this was from when he was fired). He’s power hungry and always has been in my opinion (which means Gruden is out for all the Grudenites). Regardless, he hasn’t been involved in college football in a decade, no one hired him after he was fired, and now he’s rumored to be looking at Les Miles - who also went unhired after being fired (and LSU seems to be doing fine without him).

So what I’m asking is - why does hiring retreads that didn’t get hired by anyone else feel exciting? Because Fulmer bleeds orange? I bleed orange and I have no business near an AD office or football field.

I fear Fulmer is on a power run to get back everyone that “wronged” him when he was fired. That’s the wrong motivation. He has no attachment to younger coaches or fan bases. In the end, he doesn’t excite me and neither does Les Miles.

It feels like Retread University.

so get a new team idk.

 

[CA_Vol]

I stopped when Op brought up Gruden not being a possibility b/c of Fulmer. There’s something seriously wrong with some of you people.

 

[TUSKtimes]

Ok so this will rub people the wrong way but I’m looking for some decent feedback. First, Fulmer doesn’t excite me at all - in fact, it’s the opposite. It feels old and stale. In addition, what little “insider” info I have on him isn’t good (this was from when he was fired). He’s power hungry and always has been in my opinion (which means Gruden is out for all the Grudenites). Regardless, he hasn’t been involved in college football in a decade, no one hired him after he was fired, and now he’s rumored to be looking at Les Miles - who also went unhired after being fired (and LSU seems to be doing fine without him).

So what I’m asking is - why does hiring retreads that didn’t get hired by anyone else feel exciting? Because Fulmer bleeds orange? I bleed orange and I have no business near an AD office or football field.

I fear Fulmer is on a power run to get back everyone that “wronged” him when he was fired. That’s the wrong motivation. He has no attachment to younger coaches or fan bases. In the end, he doesn’t excite me and neither does Les Miles.

It feels like Retread University.

Rarely does a team build on the glory days by trying to recreate it. Alabama spent decades hitting their head against that wall.

I think, in this case, Tennessee is trying to add to their legacy by simply getting the band back together when they would be much better served looking for the next big sound.

 

[griddie]

Ok so this will rub people the wrong way but I’m looking for some decent feedback. First, Fulmer doesn’t excite me at all - in fact, it’s the opposite. It feels old and stale. In addition, what little “insider” info I have on him isn’t good (this was from when he was fired). He’s power hungry and always has been in my opinion (which means Gruden is out for all the Grudenites). Regardless, he hasn’t been involved in college football in a decade, no one hired him after he was fired, and now he’s rumored to be looking at Les Miles - who also went unhired after being fired (and LSU seems to be doing fine without him).

So what I’m asking is - why does hiring retreads that didn’t get hired by anyone else feel exciting? Because Fulmer bleeds orange? I bleed orange and I have no business near an AD office or football field.

I fear Fulmer is on a power run to get back everyone that “wronged” him when he was fired. That’s the wrong motivation. He has no attachment to younger coaches or fan bases. In the end, he doesn’t excite me and neither does Les Miles.

It feels like Retread University.

I agree. Really don’t expect much change.

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

Rarely does a team build on the glory days by trying to recreate it. Alabama spent decades hitting their head against that wall.

I think, in this case, Tennessee is trying to add to their legacy by simply getting the band back together when they would be much better served looking for the next big sound.

Listen folks.

 

[Herman Hickman]

Ok so this will rub people the wrong way but I’m looking for some decent feedback. First, Fulmer doesn’t excite me at all - in fact, it’s the opposite. It feels old and stale. In addition, what little “insider” info I have on him isn’t good (this was from when he was fired). He’s power hungry and always has been in my opinion (which means Gruden is out for all the Grudenites). Regardless, he hasn’t been involved in college football in a decade, no one hired him after he was fired, and now he’s rumored to be looking at Les Miles - who also went unhired after being fired (and LSU seems to be doing fine without him).

So what I’m asking is - why does hiring retreads that didn’t get hired by anyone else feel exciting? Because Fulmer bleeds orange? I bleed orange and I have no business near an AD office or football field.

I fear Fulmer is on a power run to get back everyone that “wronged” him when he was fired. That’s the wrong motivation. He has no attachment to younger coaches or fan bases. In the end, he doesn’t excite me and neither does Les Miles.

It feels like Retread University.

I don't know who Fulmer will end up hiring. Regardless of the name, none of us know how well they will do after they receive the job.

But what I do know is that the man appointed will be someone Coach Fulmer believes is the best he can get for the University of Tennessee.

After seeing athletic directors attempt to appoint people who were best for the House of Haslam, this is an approach I welcome regardless of the individual who ends up being Tennessee's head football coach.

 

[VolByBirth]

Rarely does a team build on the glory days by trying to recreate it. Alabama spent decades hitting their head against that wall.

I think, in this case, Tennessee is trying to add to their legacy by simply getting the band back together when they would be much better served looking for the next big sound.

Exactly. This is what I’ve been feeling and you said it more concisely. My post wasn’t saying Fulmer sucks but the man doesn’t excite me and we don’t feel like we’re moving forward but going backwards because we’re completlely lost as a university.

For those that scream he bleeds orange - no doubt. I never questioned that. But bleeding orange by itself isn’t the solution. It helps but doesn’t mean everything is solved.

 

[edyeary]

I’m still amazed at the amount of hate for Phil. He played here, coached here, and came back to help even after he was treated like crap on his way out.

Perfectly suited for AD role. Should have been hired over Currie in the first place. New position will energize him.

 

[114VOL]

Heh.

Fulmer, old? Absolutely. Stale? Not for a minute.

Dunno if you watched the press conference Friday, but the aura of command about Phil was palpable. He is a unifying force, a reassuring presence, and a catalyst toward championships.

His character has always been noted for selflessness. That should continue. Your fears of a "power run" are baseless.

It is true that he hasn't been directly involved in leading a football program in a decade. That is hardly pertinent, since he is not being asked to lead one now. He is the AD, not the coach.

I certainly hope Les Miles is not the best we can do in this search (no dig on Les, he's a very good coach, I just have my sights set a bit higher). But I trust Phil implicitly to do what's best for Tennessee. He will find us the best coach current circumstances will allow.

LOL..He said some good things. He also said some thing that bother me. He's still a complete narcissist and I am not sure he will bring in top notch coaches. He never did it when he was HC. Not sure why everyone thinks he has these great connections

 

[ptcarter]

Rarely does a team build on the glory days by trying to recreate it. Alabama spent decades hitting their head against that wall.

I think, in this case, Tennessee is trying to add to their legacy by simply getting the band back together when they would be much better served looking for the next big sound.

The guys in charge of looking for the next big sound were deaf. At least Fulmer has ears.

 

[alphavols]

I’m still amazed at the amount of hate for Phil. He played here, coached here, and came back to help even after he was treated like crap on his way out.

If Les is his first call then he’s making things much worse. Would rather have Curry and Leach any day.

 

[tvolsfan]

Rarely does a team build on the glory days by trying to recreate it. Alabama spent decades hitting their head against that wall.

I think, in this case, Tennessee is trying to add to their legacy by simply getting the band back together when they would be much better served looking for the next big sound.

Can you start a thread and post this?

 

[tvolsfan]

If Les is his first call then he’s making things much worse. Would rather have Curry and Leach any day.

Yes

 

[rtr88]

Hiring Fulmer for A.D. is like moving in with your mother after your house burned down or going through a bitter divorce. You want somewhere safe to hide and be taken of until things settle down. That's why it's back to the good old days when times where happier. Welcome back to 1998.

 

[wonderboy10]

He never said Fulmer was AD. He said he was fired. You do remember when he was fired as head coach... right?

And you remember he is not being hired as the head coach... right?

 

[FranklinVFL]

Heh.

Fulmer, old? Absolutely. Stale? Not for a minute.

Dunno if you watched the press conference Friday, but the aura of command about Phil was palpable. He is a unifying force, a reassuring presence, and a catalyst toward championships.

His character has always been noted for selflessness. That should continue. Your fears of a "power run" are baseless.

It is true that he hasn't been directly involved in leading a football program in a decade. That is hardly pertinent, since he is not being asked to lead one now. He is the AD, not the coach.

I certainly hope Les Miles is not the best we can do in this search (no dig on Les, he's a very good coach, I just have my sights set a bit higher). But I trust Phil implicitly to do what's best for Tennessee. He will find us the best coach current circumstances will allow.

This 100%.

 

[114VOL]

There’s a reason nobody has talked to Miles

Just like there was a reason no one wanted Phil to coach their program after he was fired here

 

[tvolsfan]

Just like there was a reason no one wanted Phil to coach their program after he was fired here

Correct

 

[wonderboy10]

Well Texas A&M just paid 75 million for their retread that finished his last year at FSU with a 6-6 record. In contrast, Les Miles finished his last full season at LSU with a10-3 record and never won less than 8 games during his 11 year tenure. During his 11 year tenure at LSU, he also won 3 West Divsion Titles, 2 SEC Titles, and a national title. His W/L % is well over .700. And the year he was fired from LSU he was 2-2 at the time of his firing with loses of less than a touchdown to Wisconsin and Auburn, both of whom had good seasons that year. So it's not as if you can claim that he allowed LSU to deteriorate. I don't know who folks who hate Les Miles so much think we are going to get that is any better.

And Miami is paying their retread who finished with a 9-3 record at UGA 4 million a year to take them to the ACC championship game and a 10 win regular season..