Retaining coaches (poll)

Which of these scenarios would have worked out the best?

  • Phillip Fulmer being given at least one more year

    Votes: 90 43.1%

  • Lane Kiffin staying for at least one more year

    Votes: 119 56.9%

  • Derek Dooley being given at least one more year

    Votes: 5 2.4%

  • Butch Jones being given at least one more year

    Votes: 8 3.8%
  • Total voters
    209
#26
#26
brasskicker251 said:
Hiring O in 2010? Was he at ole miss at the time?
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Just saying, if I could pick and option, it would be Coach O takes over instead of Drooley. I think he would've been a madman on the recruiting trail. Also hilarious and terribly inept at the same time. So no worse than any of the other options.
 
#27
#27
JoAllan said:
They had the choice Kiffin who had done nothing or Patterson who at the time had only had 3, 11 win seasons out of his previous 4.

For some odd reason they chose Kiffin. They listened to a talker, instead of hiring a doer.
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Yep, it's the single worst decision in this entire mess.
 
#28
#28
JoAllan said:
They had the choice Kiffin who had done nothing or Patterson who at the time had only had 3, 11 win seasons out of his previous 4.

For some odd reason they chose Kiffin. They listened to a talker, instead of hiring a doer.
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Patterson would have costed more than $2MM per year. Hammy didnt wanna go over $2MM a year. Kiffin would take slightly less than $2MM with a minimal buyout/Monte getting paid for a couple years until he retired.

For the price of 3,000 beers per home game this year, we could have had Patterson....
 
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#29
#29
BigOrangeMojo said:
Patterson would have costed more than $2MM per year. Hammy didnt wanna go over $2MM a year. Kiffin would take slightly less than $2MM with a minimal buyout/Monte getting paid for a couple years until he retired.

For the price of 3,000 beers per home game this year, we could have had Patterson....
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Amazing to think how crazy expensive Phil’s buyout was 11 years compared to today’s day and age.
 
#30
#30
BigOrangeMojo said:
Patterson would have costed more than $2MM per year. Hammy didnt wanna go over $2MM a year. Kiffin would take slightly less than $2MM with a minimal buyout/Monte getting paid for a couple years until he retired.

For the price of 3,000 beers per home game this year, we could have had Patterson....
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Yep and most likely at least 10 wins a year since.
 
#31
#31
JMSqb11 said:
Amazing to think how crazy expensive Phil’s buyout was 11 years compared to today’s day and age.
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Amazing we had another bite at the apple with Patterson in 2010 and we hired a guy that Memphis turned down over Larry Porter just because of $$$$...
 
#32
#32
I'm in the majority with the other pollsters. Had Kiffin stayed things would have been much better. I think he would have kept or maintained top assistant coaches and he would have had the top recruits.

Now, whether he played Bama or Auburn every year for the SEC Championship is a different question.
 
#37
#37
JMSqb11 said:
Another note is Fulmer only had two losing seasons in 16 years. And after his first one, he made a 4 win improvement the following year. Recruiting for 2009 was high for him still and he would have made changes with or without a Lawson to not repeat the 2008 5-7 record in 2009

Even in his down seasons where we were bowl eligible, he still improved the following seasons in the W/L column.
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That's a great point. I would love that kind of improvement
 
#40
#40
Fulmer get complacent
Kiffin would have ended in probation or worse
Dooley couldn’t recruit lineman
Jones create a hostile toxic environment which we’ve never seen.
 
#41
#41
Dooley is leaps and bounds worse than Butch as a coach. But I voted another year of Kiffin. He was a much better coach than anyone we've had since.
 
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#43
#43
Fulmer had the #6 recruiting class coming in when he was fired, and then Kiffen sent Taj Boyd to Clemson, which resurrected that program, and is now killing us with in-state recruiting. So that was a double-whammy that is still hurting us. Kiffin was not a great coach, he turned a 9-3 UT team into a 6-6 team and got run off from USC. He was too young and immature to succeed in the SEC. He is a great play-caller though.
 
#44
#44
VolArmy74 said:
Dooley is leaps and bounds worse than Butch as a coach. But I voted another year of Kiffin. He was a much better coach than anyone we've had since.
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Really?

I thought even Doofy could coach circles around Butch. Doofy just didn’t understand you also needed talent and management.

Just my opinion.......doesn’t mean your wrong.
 
#45
#45
JoAllan said:
Really?

I thought even Doofy could coach circles around Butch. Doofy just didn’t understand you also needed talent and management.

Just my opinion.......doesn’t mean your wrong.
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Dooley's incompetence is legendary. From shower training to recruiting no offensive linemen. Dooley had a better staff and still couldn't win anything. Butch was no great shakes but Dooley could coach 40 years and never have a 9 win team. Butch, as bad as he left things, still left things a little better than Dooley did.
 
#46
#46
VolArmy74 said:
Dooley's incompetence is legendary. From shower training to recruiting no offensive linemen. Dooley had a better staff and still couldn't win anything. Butch was no great shakes but Dooley could coach 40 years and never have a 9 win team. Butch, as bad as he left things, still left things a little better than Dooley did.
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Yea I got ya, that is what I was saying about management and stuff. However for me Butch’s “actual” game coaching skills is the worst I’ve seen at Tennessee.

AgIn though just my opinion.
 
#47
#47
I don't think Tennessee would have the problems they have now if Lane Kiffin would have stayed at Tennessee.
 
#48
#48
If LK wasn’t an absolute idiot and had stayed, I think we’d be solidly hitting 9 to 11 wins a season still.

I’m positive all those guys from here that won a National Championship for Clemson would have been here instead so we’d have at least been in the playoff conversation.
 
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