Request for Explanation: Redshirting

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kidbourbon

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Does anyone know the redshirting rules for college basketball? The information I found from a general google search isn't totally clear. For instance, I found the following:

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Red shirting is not an official NCAA term, but the term is used when a student-athlete does not participate in any competition during a particular academic year (i.e., neither in the championship nor the nonchampionship segment of the playing season). A student-athlete may be red-shirted at any point in his/her athletic career.

A “medical red shirt” is not an official NCAA term either, but the term is used when a student-athlete is injured after participating in a limited amount of competition during a particular academic year and then qualifies for a Medical Hardship Waiver. More detailed information regarding Medical Hardship Waivers is included below.

Medical Hardship Waiver
If a student-athlete suffers a season-ending injury or illness after competing in a limited amount of
competition during a particular academic year, he/she may qualify for a medical hardship waiver which would allow him/her an additional season of competition during the five-year period of eligibility. To qualify for a medical hardship:
• The student-athlete’s injury or illness must occur in one of the four seasons of intercollegiate
competition at any two-year or four-year collegiate institution or occur subsequent to the first day of
classes in the student-athlete's senior year in high school;
• The injury or illness must occur prior to the completion of the first half of the playing season that concludes with the NCAA championship in that sport (measured by the number of scheduled contests or dates of competition) and result in incapacity to compete for the remainder of that playing season; and
• The injury or illness must occur when the student-athlete has not participated in more than two contests or dates of competition (whichever is applicable to that sport) or 20 percent (whichever
number is greater) of the institution's scheduled or completed contests or dates of competition in his or
her sport.

Student-athletes should note that medical hardship waivers are not automatic and, therefore, the student athlete should consult with his/her head coach along with the Head Athletic Trainer and Assistant Athletic Director for Compliance Services.
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So how then does this apply to someone like Cameron Tatum, who played in several games and hasn't (to my knowledge) suffered a season ending injury? Does the fact that he hasn't played any games in 2008 make a difference? Is this a creative interpretation of "academic year"?

Any insight is appreciated. I've never been clear on how this works (in either football or basketball).

KB
 
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He did suffer an injury that caused him to be unavailable for quite some time: Vols hope to rush action, not decisions : Men's Basketball : GoVolsXtra.com

He can get a medical redshirt if he doesn't play more than 20 percent of the games we play this year. He played in seven games, so if he doesn't play anymore this season and UT plays 35 or more games, he can get the year of eligibility back. We'll need at least four games in the SEC and NCAA Tournaments to do that.

The medical redshirt isn't automatic, but it's almost always granted. Most denials are when a player has played more than the rules stipulate and he or she petitions the NCAA for a waiver.

I think the last UT basketball player to get a medical redshirt after actually playing in a season was Gannon Goodson. The extra year let him be a part of the wonderful 5-22 season. I wonder if he considered petitioning the NCAA to take it back? :birgits_giggle:
 
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I can't prove it, but I don't think Cameron Tatum has to use a medical redshirt. I think he's just redshirting his freshman season and will be a redshirt freshman next year. I know he played in several games, but I think there has to be some sort of minimum threshold that a player can't pass if he wants to keep his redshirt status.

With that said, I've looked on the NCAA web site (and other sites) and have never found a clear explanation of the basketball rule. It's very ambiguous. If somebody out there knows, I'd love to hear it.
 
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I can't point to any rules either, but a player can play in a few games in basketball and still redshirt. Marques Johnson played in 4 games last year and the coaches were planning on redshirting him before he transferred to NC State. He wasn't injured to my knowledge.
 
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"The term "redshirt" is used to describe a student-athlete who does not participate in competition in a sport for an entire academic year. If you do not compete in a sport the entire academic year, you have not used a season of competition. For example, if you are a qualifier, and you attend a four-year college your freshman year, and you practice but do not compete against outside competition, you would still have the next four years to play four seasons of competition."

That's straight from the NCAA Eligibility website. You cannot redshirt if you compete in game competition, no matter how little. Even if you play in one game, barring a medical redshirt, you will lose a year of eligibility.

Cameron still may be able to medically redshirt, but outside that, he will have used his freshmen year of eligibility.
 
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They're right. Once you play a game, you've used a year of eligibility. The only way you can get it back is if you've played less than 20 percent of the games and you get injured. You can't play a guy for a few games, decide he's not ready and then sit him without consequence. Unless you do a really good job of faking an injury...
 
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yes, your redshirt is gone if you play one minute in the very first game of the season, even if you don't score any points. And football is the same way, if you play one snap, then your redshirt is forfeited. Not too hard to understand.

this of course is only discerned by medical redshirt, which is described above.
 
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AmoebaVol said:
Yeah .... I think I saw Tatum limping around a few months ago. *wink* *wink*
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Wouldn't surprise me. J.P. became eligible two games (La.-Lafayette and UTC) after Tatum went out with his injury. Pearl and Tatum may have just agreed that he should take a medical redshirt and not waste a year of eligibility knowing he'll play many more minutes starting next year.
 
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