Report: Hundreds of WMDs Found in Iraq

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WMDs Found

Declassified Info

WASHINGTON — The United States has found 500 chemical weapons in Iraq since 2003, and more weapons of mass destruction are likely to be uncovered, two Republican lawmakers said Wednesday.
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Do you question the timing?

Do you believe it is a big enough WMD threat to invade Iraq?
 
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(OrangeEmpire @ Jun 22 said:
Do you question the timing?
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Question the timing? Of course not. I'm absolutely certain that politics had nothing to do with this. I trust George and his brain trust implicitly.
To think otherwise would be a liberal and anti-American opinion that should be squelched by the department of Homeland Security.

D'ya get all that Big Brother?
 
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The timing is more attributed (or has been) to the races the Senator and Congressman are in. The W administration did not release this info.

As to why this info wasn't released - one theory put forward by a General is that these weapons can somehow be traced to support (equipment, chemicals, etc.) from Russia and France. In short, the info wasn't released for diplomatic reasons. (just a theory put forward).
 
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There has been talk about this for a while, but it's a little difficult to figure out why it has been so difficult to get this information declassified.
 
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(OrangeEmpire @ Jun 22 said:
Do you believe it is a big enough WMD threat to invade Iraq?
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The decision was not based on the concern that there were 500 aging chemical weapons shells.

 
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(orange+white=heaven @ Jun 22 said:
Question the timing? Of course not. I'm absolutely certain that politics had nothing to do with this. I trust George and his brain trust implicitly.
To think otherwise would be a liberal and anti-American opinion that should be squelched by the department of Homeland Security.

D'ya get all that Big Brother?
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Apologies to the right of this board. It is not like me to pop off like that.

I am increasingly frustrated by the way Washington plays American lives as if they were pawns in a partisan chess game. I've had enough. And I don't think I am alone.
 
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The decision was not based on the concern that there were 500 aging chemical weapons shells.
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Dang, just asking a question.............. :dunno: :gun:

Where are the WMD?

Buried or in Syria?

Also, do you think any thing "legit" can placed on WMD/components coming from France or Russia?
 
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Apologies to the right of this board. It is not like me to pop off like that.

I am increasingly frustrated by the way Washington plays American lives as if they were pawns in a partisan chess game. I've had enough. And I don't think I am alone.
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No offense taken, I thought it was funny!
 
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(OrangeEmpire @ Jun 22 said:
Dang, just asking a question.............. :dunno: :gun:
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Just giving an answer - it's too much of a hypothetical for me to answer any other way.
 
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Also, I am quite sure that I would agree with some of your assements of the current administration.

I will say that Bush is doing a better job than the current governor of my state of Ohio.
 
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(OrangeEmpire @ Jun 22 said:
Also, do you think any thing "legit" can placed on WMD/components coming from France or Russia?
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Dunno. These two were definitely "pushing the limits" to put it lightly with the UN sanctions and Oil for Food programs.

On the otherhand, I generally approach issues based on what I know and leave the conspiracy theories to others until much more "proof" materializes.

I find that if I attribute nefarious motives and conspiratorial scheming to a political side I disagree with then ultimately I must believe the side I support is equally quilty. Then my head explodes!
 
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I find that if I attribute nefarious motives and conspiratorial scheming to a political side I disagree with then ultimately I must believe the side I support is equally quilty. Then my head explodes!
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Do you want to borrow some of my duct tape?

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It's hard for me to believe, but Beck actually comes off pretty well on TV.
 
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This information WAS released by the White House. Negroponte had it declassified and released. Santorum, close to losing his job, came out with the release from DNI. As the release stated and as many in the Pentagon say, these were very old shells pre-dating the Gulf War. This does not prove Saddam reconstituted his weapons program AFTER the Gulf War. These shells are at least 15 years old. Anyone with knowledge in EOD or even chemical warfare will tell you these shells are all but worthless to use. In their degraded state they can be used in a small crowd and possibly make some sick but these shells are by no means anywhere close to the thousands of gallons of WMD's, drones, warehouses, labs, etc. that was presented to the UN by Colin Powell. These 500 artillery shells of degraded chemical agents are no where near the threat that the Administration went with on going to war. Actually this type of items was actually expected to be found. Most of this was buried. While Saddam did not claim these items to the UN, burying them in the ground for over 15 years severely weakens their whole potential for use. You basically are taking a tank and turning it into a BB gun.
 
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(GAVol @ Jun 22 said:
It's hard for me to believe, but Beck actually comes off pretty well on TV.
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Boy I was thinking the exact opposite! Those glasses have to go!
 
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Now we have to hear this for the next week that all of these people were right...there were WMD's in Iraq. I'd love to hit up all of the search engines for the quotes where they all repeated the lines of huge amounts of WMD's and mushroom clouds, etc. Let them all come out and say these are proof they were right. These shells do not excuse the shoddiness of how this whole episode was run. From the get-go, we were told numerous things that proved to be inaccurate. Even after Saddam was toppled, the US botched the insurgency and even now the reconstruction. Santorum can dance in the streets all he wants but thousands of Iraqis and 2500 Americans dying for this is inexcusable.
 
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Whatever, we probably gave those to Saddam back in the day.
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Sadly, it may be possible, but doubtful.

Boy I was thinking the exact opposite! Those glasses have to go!
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The Mr. Rogers look with the glasses has to go.

I have been trying to get into the tv show but well............ :dunno:

 
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Now we have to hear this for the next week that all of these people were right...there were WMD's in Iraq. I'd love to hit up all of the search engines for the quotes where they all repeated the lines of huge amounts of WMD's and mushroom clouds, etc. Let them all come out and say these are proof they were right. These shells do not excuse the shoddiness of how this whole episode was run. From the get-go, we were told numerous things that proved to be inaccurate. Even after Saddam was toppled, the US botched the insurgency and even now the reconstruction. Santorum can dance in the streets all he wants but thousands of Iraqis and 2500 Americans dying for this is inexcusable.
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I am pretty much with you on this one, I think it is nothing more than a pile of crap.

In one ear and out the other.
 
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I agree that it really doesn't change much. Like most things, the truth is somewhere in the middle.

It clearly doesn't vindicate the pre-war intelligence.
 
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It clearly doesn't vindicate the pre-war intelligence.
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I cannot wait to hear the blow hards on the right push this for all they can. It will be on the talking points for the next couple of weeks.

FOX NEWS ALERT

Hannity and Colmes exclusive....WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION FOUND IN IRAQ!

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