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#26
#26
Special Teams play as a whole not necessarily the returners and the punter was atrocious. Medley is about to get benched for a freshman. You can't blame the coaches for the final play, Abernathy made a boneheaded decision, but you can blame them for failing to run the ball inside the 10 yard line. Sometimes they try to get way too complex when the simplest play is the answer. This isn't the first time a more talented UT lost to the Gators in the Swamp.

What was wrong with special teams play
 
#27
#27
This is just wrong. Why do people not get football. You and butch both apparently. Well here goes your lesson...when we had he ball at the 9 yard line with 50 seconds left (and Florida only had two to's), no coach in America would've let Florida get the ball again unless a td was scored quickly. That's the only way Florida would've gotten the ball back. We should've made sure we had the last possession. Florida baited us to throw because they too knew the only way for them to get another possession was for us to throw. That's amateur. An average high school coach knows how to handle that situation

Lol you're right. I just don't know football. It's hard to admit
 
#28
#28
Lol you're right. I just don't know football. It's hard to admit

If you don't agree with that statement (that we should've had made sure we had the last possession) than no you don't. A great coach is a great game manager. You should basically attack every possession until the end. Then use the clock to ensure it works in your favor. But butch does the exact opposite. He's content just giving up possessions basically and keeping the game close. And then when he actually needs to run out the clock...he takes no time off and gives them the ball right back. He's an idiot
 
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#29
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If you don't agree with that statement (that we should've had made sure we had the last possession) than no you don't. A great coach is a great game manager. You should basically attack every possession until the end. Then use the clock to ensure it works in your favor. But butch does the exact opposite. He's content just giving up possessions basically and keeping the game close. And then when he actually needs to run out the clock...he takes no time off and gives them the ball right back. He's an idiot

We had to score. That's the first priority. Everything else is second to that. If you don't understand that, you don't understand football.
 
#30
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We had to score. That's the first priority. Everything else is second to that. If you don't understand that, you don't understand football.

You're an idiot if you honestly don't get the point (I think you do you just want to argue). But we should've ensured that we had the last possession. The only way we should've given Florida the ball back with any time remaining was if we had score a td on first or second down. They way you ensure you have the last possession in that situation is to run the damn ball and make them use their timeouts. It's not a difficult concept to understand. No wonder you still support butch
 
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#31
#31
You're an idiot if you honestly doesn't get the point (I think you do you just want to argue). But we should've ensured that we had the last possession. The only way we should've given Florida the ball back with any time remaining was if we had score a td on first or second down. They way you ensure you have the last possession in that situation is to run the damn ball and make them use their timeouts. It's not a difficult concept to understand. No wonder you still support butch

Guy is just arguing to argue. Sure, nothing wrong with special teams...shanks, illegal procedure, wide left, wide right and so on. Damn sure should have imposed our will and run right at them and at least made them burn their TO's.
 
#32
#32
QB F-
RB A+
TE B-
WR D
Oline C- Oline probably cost us game at end 2 false start penalties when it was 1st and 5 deep in Florida territory.

Defense
LB B
Dline B+
Secondary C+ before bomb F after Bomb.

Special Teams F only 1 made FG and consistent touchbacks.

Coaching F-------------
Piss poor coaching, Butch should have got Helfrich at Oregon or someone more creative than someone running his sorry ass offense that is his puppet or yes man. Dumb call on 1 yardline,

The 2 false starts were nullified on the next play by a face mask call so no impact in the end. OL never gets any respect but we are averaging 400 yards and 34 points per game and only 2 sacks without a mobile QB most teams would love that but doesn't fit the never ending narrative around here.
 
#33
#33
You're an idiot if you honestly don't get the point (I think you do you just want to argue). But we should've ensured that we had the last possession. The only way we should've given Florida the ball back with any time remaining was if we had score a td on first or second down. They way you ensure you have the last possession in that situation is to run the damn ball and make them use their timeouts. It's not a difficult concept to understand. No wonder you still support butch

We should have ensured that we scored. You can't do both. To ensure you have the last possession would require taking every second off the clock and then scoring on the last play. Meaning you limit the number of chances you have to score.

You can continue with the insults all you want, but you're simply wrong. Scoring is the first priority. Running clock is second.
 
#34
#34
Guy is just arguing to argue. Sure, nothing wrong with special teams...shanks, illegal procedure, wide left, wide right and so on. Damn sure should have imposed our will and run right at them and at least made them burn their TO's.

When you kick such long fgs, you expect them to be missed. No one really expects your kicker to hit twice from 51.

Why would they have burned their timeouts? They were winning the game. You act like it was tied. We had to score a td to tie it
 
#35
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When you kick such long fgs, you expect them to be missed. No one really expects your kicker to hit twice from 51.

Why would they have burned their timeouts? They were winning the game. You act like it was tied. We had to score a td to tie it

We kicked a FG to tie it. Had we ran the ball the clock would have kept running forcing them to use their timeouts if they wanted the ball back.

However, the refs actually helped UT on the last drive by misplacing the ball on the 35. The ref marked Franks down on the 34 which was short of the line for a 1st down. However, the refs spotted the ball past the 35 which would have been a 1st down. The clock kept running wasting about 20 seconds or so.
 
#36
#36
Way to generous on almost every position. Only John Kelly deserves an A.

And why wasn't his A an A+.....that's the best running back performance for a Tennessee running back in forever, including Kamara's huge game vs TAM last season imho.
 
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We kicked a FG to tie it. Had we ran the ball the clock would have kept running forcing them to use their timeouts if they wanted the ball back.

However, the refs actually helped UT on the last drive by misplacing the ball on the 35. The ref marked Franks down on the 34 which was short of the line for a 1st down. However, the refs spotted the ball past the 35 which would have been a 1st down. The clock kept running wasting about 20 seconds or so.

I was wrong about the td. But the spot was correct from what I've seen. The player slid feet first so the ball was behind. His feet were ahead of the marker but not the ball. Granted I haven't seen a replay of it.
 
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#38
#38
Guy is just arguing to argue. Sure, nothing wrong with special teams...shanks, illegal procedure, wide left, wide right and so on. Damn sure should have imposed our will and run right at them and at least made them burn their TO's.

That's my issue with the special teams comments. Everyone seems to believe we should hit every fg over 45.
 
#39
#39
You're an idiot if you honestly don't get the point (I think you do you just want to argue). But we should've ensured that we had the last possession. The only way we should've given Florida the ball back with any time remaining was if we had score a td on first or second down. They way you ensure you have the last possession in that situation is to run the damn ball and make them use their timeouts. It's not a difficult concept to understand. No wonder you still support butch

nice!....you probably don't realize that:

a. I'm not convinced he's defending anyone...just stating his observations about the game and certain aspects there of....which, you have every right to disagree with.

b. He's a coach (or at least claims to be...at the HS level if still there)...maybe knows a little more about certain aspects than the average fan. But then again...maybe you're a coach as well so you guys should be able to square off on this....

civilly would be nice.
 
#40
#40
Coaching should get a C. Scott had a good game plan and they executed well outside of that horrible 1st and goal series. He called a good game.

Same for Shoop. Outside of the last play of the game, he called a good game.

I heard Griff talking this morning and he said QD called an audible on the first and goal at the one...he gave credit to the gator D for baiting him but blasted the coaching staff for giving a first year starting QB the option to audible in that situation...he then doubled down on the coaches and QD because QD limped off the field rather than going down and giving the backup QB a chance to take a practice snap on the sideline...and we then got a procedure call and put us back to the six...

He was also critical of QD's tendency to fall backward and throw off his back foot when he is pressured...he basically said the coaches need to explain to him tat this is big time college football and you have to step into your throws even it then means taking a hit...

He also had an interesting take of the hail Mary play...he said Florida's kicker has such good range and accuracy that they D was trying to make sure they didn't take a 25 or 30 yard completion and stop the clock with enough time for the FG...evidently that was what Florida called based on comments after the game by Franks but they guy was covered...so he kept running and got behind the safety...he also said that since Kelly and Berry were both out, the Abernathy and Warrior played every down...

His criticisms of the coaching staff weren't as much on individual calls as it was on having guys ready...should have been able to play some of the true freshmen in the safety rotation rather than playing the starters the whole way...also critical on receiver development - 2 of the three interceptions were route errors where the receiver let the DB cut inside and get the pick...third was just a bad high throw that was defected...
 

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