Remember this statement from Pruitt

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covert29 said:
I'd argue that attitude of the players is worth more than anything else. You can tell that these seniors and juniors, not all, had the "butch mentality." If it's true that the players will take on the head coach's attitude, then we should be much improved on the effort and attitude than last year.
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That just sounds like a convenient excuse to me. Butch was long gone. It was Pruitt's job to put his stamp on this team starting Day One. If he failed to eradicate whatever negativity that might have been lingering, then that's a real indictment of his coaching abilities, IMO. The players might not have been good enough, but attitude should NOT have been an issue. Unfortunately, Pruitt relied on that excuse during the entire first season, all the while admitting that there was just nothing he could do to change it.

That's the thing that worries me most about Pruitt. He keeps saying that we need players that are just as talented as Bama's and Georgia's. But anyone can win with those players. Why is HE the guy? And what about other coaches who overachieve with less talent?
 
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The major thing he has done if we get Wright is recruit the best OL class I can remember. This group will be an A+ and expect some of them could start or certainly play huge minutes next season.
 
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Grudenhaslanded said:
That is spot on. Everybody seems to think Pruitts recruiting is getting us back. Truth is, top 15 classes are not enough to compete anymore. We must be in the top five every year to have a chance.
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This recruiting cycle isn't even over, too early to declare it top 15, unless you are going somewhere with this argument.
 
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Hacksaw said:
That just sounds like a convenient excuse to me. Butch was long gone. It was Pruitt's job to put his stamp on this team starting Day One. If he failed to eradicate whatever negativity that might have been lingering, then that's a real indictment of his coaching abilities, IMO. The players might not have been good enough, but attitude should NOT have been an issue. Unfortunately, Pruitt relied on that excuse during the entire first season, all the while admitting that there was just nothing he could do to change it.

That's the thing that worries me most about Pruitt. He keeps saying that we need players that are just as talented as Bama's and Georgia's. But anyone can win with those players. Why is HE the guy? And what about other coaches who overachieve with less talent?
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Most coaches who overachieve with less talent, were the ones that recruited them. Mullen at MSU, example.
 
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VolsnRavens said:
I remember a time when we didn't "slow" Bama down. We stopped them, time after time while we went down field. Oh please 8lb 6oz newborn baby Jesus, please let me live long enough to see that again.
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U forgot 8lb6oz newborn baby Jesus, singing Rocky Top, please let us all live long enough to see that again
 
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Mtnvol80 said:
With some of the best athletes in the country. JP has done pretty good this class, with all things considered, but we didn't close any Gap. Bama and Georgia just made the gap even wider
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Bama and UGA aren’t slowing down so they’ll have to close the gap through coaching, getting the most out of the roster and minimizing turnover and busts.
 
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another year in a true S&C program will work wonders if the players take it seriously. That is where leadership will need to be developed.

If our OL and DL can get bigger and stronger before August, we can definitely close the gap.
 
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Roustabout said:
Bama and UGA aren’t slowing down so they’ll have to close the gap through coaching, getting the most out of the roster and minimizing turnover and busts.
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And frankly, we are just going to have to get lucky. We are going to have to have a couple of once in a generation type players somewhere on that roster that no one saw coming and are huge difference makers on the field.
 
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Hacksaw said:
That just sounds like a convenient excuse to me. Butch was long gone. It was Pruitt's job to put his stamp on this team starting Day One. If he failed to eradicate whatever negativity that might have been lingering, then that's a real indictment of his coaching abilities, IMO. The players might not have been good enough, but attitude should NOT have been an issue. Unfortunately, Pruitt relied on that excuse during the entire first season, all the while admitting that there was just nothing he could do to change it.

That's the thing that worries me most about Pruitt. He keeps saying that we need players that are just as talented as Bama's and Georgia's. But anyone can win with those players. Why is HE the guy? And what about other coaches who overachieve with less talent?
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You make valid points. However, one could argue that he wasn't really at liberty to "eradicate negativity" based on our lack of depth. We saw some instances in season, such as with Sapp, that hinted at least SOMETHING was going on with players not buying in. Regardless, a vast majority of these players weren't "his guys." Even with the class he singed, some were committed to the program before butch was gone, so they could have been kept on solely for building depth.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but we can't yet fully judge, at least not thoroughly, on what Pruitt is able to do for at LEAST another recruiting cycle. Dobbs/kamara and co gave Butch a longer tenure than he deserved. Saban would have won a title with the team we had in 15/16.
 
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Chilmonty said:
So are you saying all those Freshman are gonna Start??

Got some good recruits but they won't all contribute instantly!
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If I were Pruitt most of them would, or would see significant playing time. He needs to show all the recruits we go after that they will play if they have the ability/progress. Otherwise recruiting will slow down. He needs to take it on the chin next year if necessary to get them playing early so we have a chance come October and November.
 
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Orange defense said:
Jeremy Pruitt: We need another recruiting cycle to slow Alabama

Looks like he will have his 25 guys, and pretty good ones at that. Look what he has done now after he said these comments. I also feel the 2018 class is going to help with this process, with what’s left coming back.
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We should slow them down some next year. Hopefully it will be 4th quarter or later before they can put in the subs.

They are still recruiting better but the gap is narrowing. But we can now go blow for blow on S&C/coaching development.

It'll take another year from this recruiting cycle to catch up with them on depth (3-4 deep).
 
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Hacksaw said:
That just sounds like a convenient excuse to me. Butch was long gone. It was Pruitt's job to put his stamp on this team starting Day One. If he failed to eradicate whatever negativity that might have been lingering, then that's a real indictment of his coaching abilities, IMO. The players might not have been good enough, but attitude should NOT have been an issue. Unfortunately, Pruitt relied on that excuse during the entire first season, all the while admitting that there was just nothing he could do to change it.

That's the thing that worries me most about Pruitt. He keeps saying that we need players that are just as talented as Bama's and Georgia's. But anyone can win with those players. Why is HE the guy? And what about other coaches who overachieve with less talent?
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It's called changing the culture and you don't change a programs culture in 1 day. Honestly takes about a year maybe longer. Saban took a year for things to start rolling the right way. Sounds like you never liked jp and look for anything you can twist into why he's bad.
 
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VolsnRavens said:
I remember a time when we didn't "slow" Bama down. We stopped them, time after time while we went down field. Oh please 8lb 6oz newborn baby Jesus, please let me live long enough to see that again.
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That period of time was when they were on probation and we had no limitations in recruiting....

Florida had Spurrier, Georgia had Jim Donnan, Kentucky had Hal Mumme, Vandy had Woody Widenhofer, USC had Brad Scott, Bama had DuBose, Auburn had Bowden, Ole Piss had tommy Tuberville Miss State had Jackie Sherrill LSU had Gerry DiNardo and Arkansas had Nutt.


Now look at the SEC coaching landscape.... Quiet different.....
 
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Vol_Maul said:
That is just a lie. Auburn has been able to beat them once every few years and look at the chaos going on there. With some stability, and good recruiting, we should expect to beat them, at least sometimes.
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That's because Auburn does not run a traditional offense. Coaches that try to clone Saban never beat him. Ever.
 
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JettVol said:
Its not worship if it is true. Bama is head and shoulders above everyone in the SEC with the closest being UGA. We will see this unfortunate fact yet again in less than a week. I hate UA, but to say that they aren't good or "we" as in UT are close to being able to compete with them for a 60 min football game is laughable and delusional.
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Since Saban has been there, we came close to beating them in 2009 but Lincoln had his kick blocked. Had we won that game, Bama would not have played Notre Dame for national championship that year. We would have knocked Bama out of the national championship game.

We didn't so it doesn't matter. But in 2009, Bama was much better than we were but we darn near beat them. In fact, they didn't beat us, we beat ourselves by having the field goal blocked. They didn't out play us.
 
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I just cant put any more faith in words. Its so tiring. I need to see it on the field in big time wins now. Its been a decade with some great recruiting classes and NFL players in there. I need to see it on the field now. No point in continung to talk and just walk.
 
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Maybe not, but I have seen many freshmen play early. Munoz, Manning, J. Lewis, E. Berry, Ainge, Clausen and they all made a difference in their freshman year....
 
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Rudy123 said:
Maybe not, but I have seen many freshmen play early. Munoz, Manning, J. Lewis, E. Berry, Ainge, Clausen and they all made a difference in their freshman year....
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most of those are generational talents. Not sure how many of those UT has, but yeah losts of teams have impact freshman but they are usually at the big schools who hve 4-deep 5 star talent to "find" the impact players in. These days, unlike 10 ot 20 years ago, UT gets one or two of those top players and hopes for the best.
 
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Yeah...I remember this statement. It was the one where Pruitt threw his team under the bus at half time because they were playing like s**t.

JJ Peterson was supposed to be a baller too and that didn't pan out so far.

No telling how good Pruitt actually is at recruiting until these guys get on the field.

He hopefully filled some major needs on the line of scrimmage in this class but counting on freshmen to step in and contribute immediately usually doesn't work out too well.
 
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