Refs in tn/bama game

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IM not one of those fans that want to blame everything on the refs. Bottom line we should have made the FG. BUT the refs were horrible, if anyone gets a chance to see the replay watch how many plays dan williams was geting held and yet no call. Block in the back no call. ridiculous.

kiffin had this to say

"At that point, it's nine penalties to one. We're the second-least-penalized team in the country going into the game. They're 60th in the country. And you go down there and it's very disappointing to have nine flags thrown against you and one against them.''

Go Vols well get em next year in knoxville
 
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VOLS INC. said:
IM not one of those fans that want to blame everything on the refs. Bottom line we should have made the FG. BUT the refs were horrible, if anyone gets a chance to see the replay watch how many plays dan williams was geting held and yet no call. Block in the back no call. ridiculous.

kiffin had this to say

"At that point, it's nine penalties to one. We're the second-least-penalized team in the country going into the game. They're 60th in the country. And you go down there and it's very disappointing to have nine flags thrown against you and one against them.''

Go Vols well get em next year in knoxville
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Ah, I dont know, all they missed were 2 offsides penalties, 2 unsportsmanlikes (Cody taking off his helmet, and the punter flexing is arm), and 3 or 4 blocks in the back. And one other thing, bummer fans are all gaga over little Nicky, what about him trying to pass on our 2 yard line with Ingram in the backfield? Oh well, its over, we're going to win out, and finish 8-4, get a decent bowl, win that, and anxiously await the Ducks to arrive in Knoxville next year.

GO BIG ORANGE!!
 
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Poor officiating is out of hand. It has been going on for years but it never seems to get better. I wonder how thouroughly these guys are investigated before they are allowed to become SEC officials.

In particular who their friends/associates are. A friend of a friend may be a guy making huge bets on games in Vegas (I have seen these huge bets happen before). A no call here or a phantom call there (cheating crew got caught in FL/AK game making a call that was not there).

The bottom line is that college football is too important to too many people to have games essentially being decided by these guys.

I hope when their performance for our game is reviewed
these jerks get suspended. There obvious favoritism may have cost us the most hard earned victory in the last 10 years.

By the way, I have seen bad calls go in our favor in games too but the bammers got every call in this one.

Something needs to be done.
 
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those officals are getting suspended for the next 2 weeks and maybe lose their bowl game.
 
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Love the way CLK responded, and as a matter of fact I'm really liking the attitude/aura of the program right now.
 
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If Lincoln gets one of his kicks higher than 5 feet off of the ground you wouldn't be complaining about the refs.
 
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Vols played great, quit blaming the refs. We need a kicker who can actually get the ball up off of the ground. We should have let our holder use a piece of tape :)



We should be thanking the refs for not calling a very obvious PI involving Julio Jones in the end zone during the 2nd quarter. To me, that was the worst call of the day - a "no call" on a play when our defender was lost and clearly grabbed Julio.
 
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Mr. Two Bits said:
If Lincoln gets one of his kicks higher than 5 feet off of the ground you wouldn't be complaining about the refs.
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Again.. How do you know the outcome if the ref's would have made the right calls? Two drive killing penalties could have changed the outcome for the best or the worst. The point everyone is making is these calls seem to favor the UF and UA. Albeit, UF has needed a little more help. Just make the right call and be fair. These kids, coaches, and us fans don't like to win or lose games based on botched penalties, judgement calls.
 
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Mr. Two Bits said:
If Lincoln gets one of his kicks higher than 5 feet off of the ground you wouldn't be complaining about the refs.
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Perhaps we wouldn't, the problem still remains that the refs game calling has been horrible this year, calls being overlooked, calls being made up, calls being missed. I think we can all agree the best football conference in America deserves better from the people calling the games.
 
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The no call in the endzone involving Julio J was a good one... He ran a stop fade, and the qb threw a fade... Ball was way overthrown, and both players made contact... So, you can't whine bout that one... All of our penalties were legit... You aren't generally gona go on the road in that environment and not pick up a few silly ones... However, I do agree that Bama should have been penalized alot more, but that's home cooking for you, not to mention that they are the number 1 team, and lets face it, those teams usually get close calls to go their way... Bottom line is if we make a field goal, we win the game... I don't know if any of the no calls on them actually had much impact on the game... We had our chance... We blew it... Lets just hope we get the protection issues solved, and that our kicker commit can get the ball off the ground more than 4 feet...
 
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Bad refs, cody throwing his helmet, and missed field goals...... I mean it was all there but nothing happened with it. Its time to move on now.
I mean if you look at the game overall we WON it everywhere except the scoreboard (and maybe rushing, damn there run defense was godd). It was a Great finish with a bad outcome. But hey look at how well this team is looking now. Going into south carolina, ole miss, ky, and vandy......Hopefully we can keep this momentum and win out which I think we have a good shot at.

All I have to say now is, its over nothing we can do about it, BUT continue to play like a #1 team in the country and prove everyone wrong.

GO VOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Agreed. The refs were also letting the grabbing with the off-hand/arm by bama the whole game. That is the Belichek trick that the NFL finally cracked down on a couple of years ago.

It could be the whole NFL "hold on every play. they ain't going to call it on every play" theory. It worked for NE for several years.
 
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I honestly don't see how any reasonable person could actually believe that UT, or any other SEC team for that matter, was "cheated." Simply put, there is way too much for the SEC and its officials to lose by intentionally attempting to manipulate the outcome of the game. Numerous blown calls occur in every game, obviously certain decisions by officials receive a lot more attention because of the magnitude of the situation (Such as the Florida games.) This stat that UT had 8 penalties is virtually irrelevant considering that most were standard, indisputable false start penalties and obvious holding penalties that anybody in the stands could see. Like UT fans Alabama fans can point out numerous missed calls that should have worked in their favor in the game as well, people see what they want to see its just the nature of the game. I'm not saying that there weren't calls blown calls that were unfavorable for Tennessee, or Alabama for that matter, but I don't think that it deviated from the standard amount of missed calls that affect both teams in the average game. Not to further exhaust the point but the Terrence Cody issue has already been settled by the SEC (see link if you havent already Officials' blown call*doesn't matter as Alabama edges Tennessee - Andy Staples - SI.com) and, at the end of the day, it was simply a well fought, tough SEC game that speaks a great deal about the intense competition of this rivalry and within this conference. Nobody can blame one for focusing on extraneous things like blown calls, but the reality is that its simply an unfortunate reality of having human beings for officials. It's the environment everybody plays in, at the end of the day, everybody has something to complain about. In this case, its rather difficult to support the claim that subjective officiating was major factor in affecting the outcome of this game. Good luck in the rest of your season.
 
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rob122150 said:
I honestly don't see how any reasonable person could actually believe that UT, or any other SEC team for that matter, was "cheated." Simply put, there is way too much for the SEC and its officials to lose by intentionally attempting to manipulate the outcome of the game. Numerous blown calls occur in every game, obviously certain decisions by officials receive a lot more attention because of the magnitude of the situation (Such as the Florida games.) This stat that UT had 8 penalties is virtually irrelevant considering that most were standard, indisputable false start penalties and obvious holding penalties that anybody in the stands could see. Like UT fans Alabama fans can point out numerous missed calls that should have worked in their favor in the game as well, people see what they want to see its just the nature of the game. I'm not saying that there weren't calls blown calls that were unfavorable for Tennessee, or Alabama for that matter, but I don't think that it deviated from the standard amount of missed calls that affect both teams in the average game. Not to further exhaust the point but the Terrence Cody issue has already been settled by the SEC (see link if you havent already Officials' blown call*doesn't matter as Alabama edges Tennessee - Andy Staples - SI.com) and, at the end of the day, it was simply a well fought, tough SEC game that speaks a great deal about the intense competition of this rivalry and within this conference. Nobody can blame one for focusing on extraneous things like blown calls, but the reality is that its simply an unfortunate reality of having human beings for officials. It's the environment everybody plays in, at the end of the day, everybody has something to complain about. In this case, its rather difficult to support the claim that subjective officiating was major factor in affecting the outcome of this game. Good luck in the rest of your season.
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Good post. IT'S TIME to move on. I'm tired of the whining and crying. It's embarrassing as a Vol fan.
 
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Thanks, although a Bama fan, I was just trying to provide a reasonable perspective instead of all the flaming on both sides. We've all been there before. Every team has been left with a sour taste in their mouth after a heartbreaking and emotional loss. Sometimes these feelings are warranted, but a vast majority of the time they simply are not. One for any team can justify a change in outcome for ANY close game, but thats part of the reason why football is so dramatic and engaging for the fan. Its part of the reason message boards are so frequented and opinion based football media is so large and interesting. Close games ALWAYS leave room for plenty of discussion, its just the nature of football and the nature of any passionate fan.
 
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rob122150 said:
Thanks, although a Bama fan, I was just trying to provide a reasonable perspective instead of all the flaming on both sides. We've all been there before. Every team has been left with a sour taste in their mouth after a heartbreaking and emotional loss. Sometimes these feelings are warranted, but a vast majority of the time they simply are not. One for any team can justify a change in outcome for ANY close game, but thats part of the reason why football is so dramatic and engaging for the fan. Its part of the reason message boards are so frequented and opinion based football media is so large and interesting. Close games ALWAYS leave room for plenty of discussion, its just the nature of football and the nature of any passionate fan.
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I agree that it is time to move on. Calls are missed and there is nothing that can be done about it, especially by fans. Having said that, what continues to bother me, more than the calls that were or were not made is the number of profound, calm, reasonable Bama fans who feel that is their mission to come to a UT board and preach to us about how to handle defeat with class and calm (while bringing up the calls that were not made against UT while vehemently denying that any calls against Bama were missed). Explaining your posts as a reasonable perspective on football comes off as arrogant and condescending, especially when if the shoe were on the other foot, these same Bama posters would not be quite so Zen-like. I feel that I should be sitting on the floor in the lotus position while receiving such enlightening instructing from the Bama-sensei.
 
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If you read my first post prior to the one to which you are responding, I think you would realize that it is inaccurate to claim that I vehemently denied that missed calls occurred in the game, nor is it fair to group me in a category of those who allegedly do. Secondly, I feel no arrogance in my post. Had Alabama been on the other side we WOULD be complaining too, which is essentially my larger point. Had we lost, I most certainly would have upset as would any fan on the unfortunate side of a nail-biting game. But in the best interest of Tennessee, Alabama, the SEC, college football, and everyone, its time to move on, which was my premise from the beginning.
 
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