Recruiting Rant

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mitzustu

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Sorry fellas but this is bugging the crap outta me

Commitments for some SEC rivals:

Georgia: 7 total commitments including FOUR 4* players

LSU: 10 total commitments including a 5* and FIVE 4* players

Florida: Two 4 * commits

Auburn: Three commits total

It just seems like we're already behind and i know its early but to me its not that simple..... I mean its early for these other teams but their coaches are out there blazing the recruiting trail and getting plenty of early guys.....

THOUGHTS?
 
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We do have a completely revamped offensive staff so that takes awhile for recruits to get familiar with. Yes, it took us awhile to get our first commit, but he's a good one and I think we have many more good players on the way.
 
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Cartervol said:
Just win and the recruits will come. It about that simple.
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Yeah ok. Went to the SECCG last year, yet we had a terrible recruiting class. And ND was embarssingly bad last year but thye ended up with a great class. It really isn't that simple.
 
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mitzustu said:
Sorry fellas but this is bugging the crap outta me

Commitments for some SEC rivals:

Georgia: 7 total commitments including FOUR 4* players

LSU: 10 total commitments including a 5* and FIVE 4* players

Florida: Two 4 * commits

Auburn: Three commits total

It just seems like we're already behind and i know its early but to me its not that simple..... I mean its early for these other teams but their coaches are out there blazing the recruiting trail and getting plenty of early guys.....

THOUGHTS?
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Stop complaining.
 
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volball625 said:
Yeah ok. Went to the SECCG last year, yet we had a terrible recruiting class. And ND was embarssingly bad last year but thye ended up with a great class. It really isn't that simple.
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ND is ND. We certainly don't have the tradition they have.
 
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volball625 said:
Yeah ok. Went to the SECCG last year, yet we had a terrible recruiting class. And ND was embarssingly bad last year but thye ended up with a great class. It really isn't that simple.
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ND didn't lose nearly their entire offensive staff in the middle of the recruiting year like we did and ND will always recruit well.
 
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vols kick balls said:
ND didn't lose nearly their entire offensive staff in the middle of the recruiting year like we did and ND will always recruit well.
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plus did you watch them play? Any top HS recruit had to see their pitiful team and think he could be starting.
 
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justingroves said:
Florida has 2 four stars Tennessee only has one.

Oh God the sky is falling!
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Not to mention our 4star is the 44th player in the nation while their two 4stars aren't in the top 100. If we're putting this much stock in rivals in this thread that is.
 
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volball625 said:
Yeah ok. Went to the SECCG last year, yet we had a terrible recruiting class. And ND was embarssingly bad last year but thye ended up with a great class. It really isn't that simple.
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Winning something of note would help with that.
 
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volball625 said:
Yeah ok. Went to the SECCG last year, yet we had a terrible recruiting class. And ND was embarssingly bad last year but thye ended up with a great class. It really isn't that simple.
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ND has a national feeder system of Catholic prep schools. Tennessee has the worst per capital home recruiting base in the SEC except for possibly KY.

Indeed, not that simple.
 
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Cartervol said:
Winning something of note would help with that.
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Winning will not change the fact that the state of GA produces about 3X the talent TN does... FL roughly 5-7 times... Ark about equal with less people... LA double... MS almost double... AL about double... again according to Rivals star ratings over the past 5 years.

The biggest reason it is harder to recruit to UT and many commits are later is they MUST recruit nationally. They don't have 25 4-5* recruits per year like GA... As we see, a certain % of those will commit early.

Richt acknowledged not long ago that he really doesn't have to recruit that hard any more. There are plenty of great HS players from GA that want to play for UGA from birth. As long as they play pretty decent and are competing for the championship... home state kids will come their way.
 
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sjt18 said:
Winning will not change the fact that the state of GA produces about 3X the talent TN does... FL roughly 5-7 times... Ark about equal with less people... LA double... MS almost double... AL about double... again according to Rivals star ratings over the past 5 years.

The biggest reason it is harder to recruit to UT and many commits are later is they MUST recruit nationally. They don't have 25 4-5* recruits per year like GA... As we see, a certain % of those will commit early.

Richt acknowledged not long ago that he really doesn't have to recruit that hard any more. There are plenty of great HS players from GA that want to play for UGA from birth. As long as they play pretty decent and are competing for the championship... home state kids will come their way.
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Winning can help us steal kids away from other states since we don't have the instate talent. The instate talent we do have needs to be kept instate and we need to lock up Memphis.
 
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gold. I remember when pa.state would annually get 15 or more commits early commits--and they were never any good during those years. Reason: you /don't want/ a lot of early commits---maybe a few, if they seem really solid--but the fact is that there are a LOT of late bloomers in high school; a lot of kids don't even start playing football until they are sophs or juniors. The best prospects are always the ones who've been seen playing as seniors--then everbody gets a better sense of who really has potential to play at the next level and who doesn't. Equally true, a lot of kids who look good as juniors plateau early or prove not so appealing once all the late bloomers are factored in. And UT has a new staff, as others have noted. And yes, recruiting is ultimately a function of winning--do that a lot and, surprise, recruiting is easier and better.
 
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sjt18 said:
ND has a national feeder system of Catholic prep schools. Tennessee has the worst per capital home recruiting base in the SEC except for possibly KY.

Indeed, not that simple.
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Yeah your right no one wants to play for a winner.
 
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sjt18 said:
Winning will not change the fact that the state of GA produces about 3X the talent TN does... FL roughly 5-7 times... Ark about equal with less people... LA double... MS almost double... AL about double... again according to Rivals star ratings over the past 5 years.

The biggest reason it is harder to recruit to UT and many commits are later is they MUST recruit nationally. They don't have 25 4-5* recruits per year like GA... As we see, a certain % of those will commit early.

Richt acknowledged not long ago that he really doesn't have to recruit that hard any more. There are plenty of great HS players from GA that want to play for UGA from birth. As long as they play pretty decent and are competing for the championship... home state kids will come their way.
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Don't get me wrong i see your point. Its been well documented over and over again. But winning games in the national spotlight and not getting your collective butts handed to you in those very same games. I would think it would help. We can't change the fact that georgia and florida will consistantly produce more talent than our state. What we can do is give those kids a better reason to think about tennessee:good!:
 
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Cartervol said:
Just win and the recruits will come. It about that simple.
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well, that explains Bama's monster class and ND's....I think it's about national perception and coach's effort more than anything. I think ND and Bama have a media perception as programs on the rise, whereas we have one as a program on the way down
 
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The guys that have made up their minds this early knew sometime ago where they wanted to go. It is way too early for US to worry about it. The draft class will shake up a few times between now and when it counts.
 
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