Recruiting Primer-Update for Non-Recruitniks

[unfrozencvmanvol]

Below I linked a good recent article on the state of things recruiting wise in the SEC for 2023. With the early signing period in December and NIL and other changes, the calendar seems to keep moving up. This year, more teams seem to have a lot of commitments in July than I remember in years past.

I link the whole article below and I'm not sure if it's behind a pay wall, but if it is, here's the summary as to the Vols:



Here is the current order of teams' recruiting rankings in conference, familiar names at the top, but we are much higher than in recent years within the conference. We had become a mainstay in the 6-7-8 out of 14 slot within the conference in recent years. Blue chip ratio is the percentage of commits who are 4 or 5 star recruits on the composite.

1. Georgia (No. 3 nationally), 18 commits, blue chip ratio 83.3%
2. Alabama (No. 4 nationally), 16 commits, blue chip ratio 81.2%
3. LSU (No. 10 nationally), 17 commits, blue chip ratio 70.5%
4. Tennessee (No. 11 nationally), 19 commits, blue chip ratio 42.1%
5. Arkansas (No. 12 nationally), 23 commits, blue chip ratio 30.4%
6. Florida (No. 14 nationally), 14 commits, blue chip ratio 85.7%
7. South Carolina (No. 34 nationally), 13 commits, blue chip ratio 38.4%
8. Kentucky (No. 44 nationally), 13 commits, blue chip ratio 15.3%
9. Vanderbilt (No. 50 nationally), 12 commits, blue chip ratio 8.3%
10. Miss State (No. 55 nationally), 10 commits, blue chip ratio 0%
11. Texas A&M (No. 60 nationally), 6 commits, blue chip ratio 83.3%
12. Missouri (No. 61 nationally), 8 commits, blue chip ratio 42.8%
13. Auburn (No. 67 nationally), 5 commits, blue chip ratio 100%
14. Ole Miss (No. 68 nationally), 5 commits, blue chip ratio 60%

College football recruiting: Where SEC classes rank for 2023

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

The ceiling is set fairly darned high.

 

[TNHopeful505]

And we are still in on some really good prospects. This class looks good on paper, but I really think this is going to be an absolutely solid class for the future of our program.

 

[jeff1vol]

UF is ROLLING. I knew that their coach was an awesome recruiter. Theyll surpass us here shortly, along with a few others. Our mo has fallen off quite a bit. We'll end up around 15-18. Thats NOT good enough in this league. Spyre better start stepping up. Especially defensively.

 

[cobbwebb0710]

Below I linked a good recent article on the state of things recruiting wise in the SEC for 2023. With the early signing period in December and NIL and other changes, the calendar seems to keep moving up. This year, more teams seem to have a lot of commitments in July than I remember in years past.

I link the whole article below and I'm not sure if it's behind a pay wall, but if it is, here's the summary as to the Vols:

View attachment 476408

Here is the current order of teams' recruiting rankings in conference, familiar names at the top, but we are much higher than in recent years within the conference. We had become a mainstay in the 6-7-8 out of 14 slot within the conference in recent years. Blue chip ratio is the percentage of commits who are 4 or 5 star recruits on the composite.

1. Georgia (No. 3 nationally), 18 commits, blue chip ratio 83.3%
2. Alabama (No. 4 nationally), 16 commits, blue chip ratio 81.2%
3. LSU (No. 10 nationally), 17 commits, blue chip ratio 70.5%
4. Tennessee (No. 11 nationally), 19 commits, blue chip ratio 42.1%
5. Arkansas (No. 12 nationally), 23 commits, blue chip ratio 30.4%
6. Florida (No. 14 nationally), 14 commits, blue chip ratio 85.7%
7. South Carolina (No. 34 nationally), 13 commits, blue chip ratio 38.4%
8. Kentucky (No. 44 nationally), 13 commits, blue chip ratio 15.3%
9. Vanderbilt (No. 50 nationally), 12 commits, blue chip ratio 8.3%
10. Miss State (No. 55 nationally), 10 commits, blue chip ratio 0%
11. Texas A&M (No. 60 nationally), 6 commits, blue chip ratio 83.3%
12. Missouri (No. 61 nationally), 8 commits, blue chip ratio 42.8%
13. Auburn (No. 67 nationally), 5 commits, blue chip ratio 100%
14. Ole Miss (No. 68 nationally), 5 commits, blue chip ratio 60%

College football recruiting: Where SEC classes rank for 2023

Thanks @unfrozencvmanvol !
I just don’t have the energy to keep up with football recruiting like I used to.
Wake me up on signing day(s)
GBO!!

 

[615vols]

UF is ROLLING. I knew that their coach was an awesome recruiter. Theyll surpass us here shortly, along with a few others. Our mo has fallen off quite a bit. We'll end up around 15-18. Thats NOT good enough in this league. Spyre better start stepping up. Especially defensively.

Fallen off? Just this month we received commitments from 5* dline and #1 player in Missouri Chandavian Bradley, 4* cb and #1 player in Kentucky Christian Conyers, 4* ot Shamurad Umarov, 4* wr and #32 overall player Cameron Seldon, 3* wr Nathan Leacock, 5* te in the 24 class Jonathan Echols, and pretty sure there was more lol… that’s not exactly “falling off”. And that’s all just in this past month, it’s not counting the 5* qb and all the other highly ranked players we already had. This class is a program changer if we end up signing all these guys.

 

[JO VOL]

UF is ROLLING. I knew that their coach was an awesome recruiter. Theyll surpass us here shortly, along with a few others. Our mo has fallen off quite a bit. We'll end up around 15-18. Thats NOT good enough in this league. Spyre better start stepping up. Especially defensively.

You must be lost this isn’t a gator page, or the Napier OF that you are looking for.

 

[jeff1vol]

Fallen off? Just this month we received commitments from 5* dline and #1 player in Missouri Chandavian Bradley, 4* cb and #1 player in Kentucky Christian Conyers, 4* ot Shamurad Umarov, 4* wr and #32 overall player Cameron Seldon, 3* wr Nathan Leacock, 5* te in the 24 class Jonathan Echols, and pretty sure there was more lol… that’s not exactly “falling off”. And that’s all just in this past month, it’s not counting the 5* qb and all the other highly ranked players we already had. This class is a program changer if we end up signing all these guys.

The five star is a '24 guy. Bradley isnt a 5 star. All Im saying is... 5th or 6th in the conference isnt good enough, disagree?? Now... UGA, Bama, LSU are ahead. UF is literally one spot behind with 4 less recruits. Our remaining spots better be studs if we are to maintain a top 10 class. I certainly understand UGA and Bama leading the pack, but UF coming on strong is problematic for us to take a step. Talent still counts the most in my book.

 

[Vol865]

UF is ROLLING. I knew that their coach was an awesome recruiter. Theyll surpass us here shortly, along with a few others. Our mo has fallen off quite a bit. We'll end up around 15-18. Thats NOT good enough in this league. Spyre better start stepping up. Especially defensively.

Not necessarily. Florida might not finish strong and their average could fall. I'll take all the guys we can get though.

 

[615vols]

The five star is a '24 guy. Bradley isnt a 5 star. All Im saying is... 5th or 6th in the conference isnt good enough, disagree?? Now... UGA, Bama, LSU are ahead. UF is literally one spot behind with 4 less recruits. Our remaining spots better be studs if we are to maintain a top 10 class. I certainly understand UGA and Bama leading the pack, but UF coming on strong is problematic for us to take a step. Talent still counts the most in my book.

I literally said Echols was in the 24 class in my post. Bradley was a 5* when he committed a few weeks ago. Recruiting services dropped him a bit for whatever reason, do you think he’s somehow not as good of a player now? Also, how do you know what Florida does or where they end up? Recruiting is less predictable now than ever with nil. Why assume positive outcomes for Florida but assume Tennessee will fall? Your post said our recruiting has fallen off lately, that’s silly. Landing 2 5* players and multiple 4* players in one month isn’t falling off. Like I said, this class is program changing if we hold it together. Talent is definitely king, and this class has plenty of it.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

The five star is a '24 guy. Bradley isnt a 5 star. All Im saying is... 5th or 6th in the conference isnt good enough, disagree?? Now... UGA, Bama, LSU are ahead. UF is literally one spot behind with 4 less recruits. Our remaining spots better be studs if we are to maintain a top 10 class. I certainly understand UGA and Bama leading the pack, but UF coming on strong is problematic for us to take a step. Talent still counts the most in my book.

Lol. As another poster said, you would have to be a complete dumbazz not to be able to recruit at UF. UF has always recruited pretty strong and that’s never going to change. But we still have quite a bit working against us at the moment. That NCAA letter just came out recently. And while the feeling is it’s a big nothing burger, we simply don’t know that for sure. So teams can still use that to negative recruit against us.

Recruiting isn’t as simple as oh Spyre needs to step it up.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

I literally said Echols was in the 24 class in my post. Bradley was a 5* when he committed a few weeks ago. Recruiting services dropped him a bit for whatever reason, do you think he’s somehow not as good of a player now? Also, how do you know what Florida does or where they end up? Recruiting is less predictable now than ever with nil. Why assume positive outcomes for Florida but assume Tennessee will fall? Your post said our recruiting has fallen off lately, that’s silly. Landing 2 5* players and multiple 4* players in one month isn’t falling off. Like I said, this class is program changing if we hold it together. Talent is definitely king, and this class has plenty of it.

Also, it’s August. There will be a lot of movement from now until NSD.

 

[livefaith]

The five star is a '24 guy. Bradley isnt a 5 star. All Im saying is... 5th or 6th in the conference isnt good enough, disagree?? Now... UGA, Bama, LSU are ahead. UF is literally one spot behind with 4 less recruits. Our remaining spots better be studs if we are to maintain a top 10 class. I certainly understand UGA and Bama leading the pack, but UF coming on strong is problematic for us to take a step. Talent still counts the most in my book.

A lot of people have difficulty with the concepts of quality and quantity. When we are #3 in the nation in TOTAL numbers (quantity), they are not able to understand that what mainly matters is quality (average rating). Then the classes get full on signing day and what matters is the avg quality!

 

[jeff1vol]

A lot of people have difficulty with the concepts of quality and quantity. When we are #3 in the nation in TOTAL numbers (quantity), they are not able to understand that what mainly matters is quality (average rating). Then the classes get full on signing day and what matters is the avg quality!

Youre exactly right. UF has 4 less players than us now and is one spot behind. At present, their "quality" seems to be ahead of ours. Chasing "diamonds in the rough" has never worked out well for us. Ill have to trust CJH to be the ONE to actually find real ones. Hope he can do it. All this early talk of a hostorically great class was premature. There STILL hasnt been one coach at UT that has done better than some of the mid to late 90's classes. And it aint that close. I got my hopes up that Spyre would really boost us up, but it looks now that even UF is back in the game after all their "turmoil" about their lack of recruiting efforts with NIL, etc. We REALLY need to beat their asses this year in order to give recruits considering both schools something to think about.

 

[cbrown]

The blue chip ratio is the most important metric listed here. We’re sitting at #9 and pretty far behind #7. The coaching staff is going to have to overachieve with what we have and hopefully more wins will attract more talent.

 

[SpookyAction]

The blue chip ratio is the most important metric listed here. We’re sitting at #9 and pretty far behind #7. The coaching staff is going to have to overachieve with what we have and hopefully more wins will attract more talent.

The blue chip ratio is a concern going forward. I will wait to see. I suspect some of our guys are rising in the ratings this coming high school season. They are good guys.

 

[ReelfootVol]

Wins on the field is what attracts recruits..................no longer Universities or coaches attracts players as much as wins !!! Just my opinion...................and this includes wins against reputable opponents, not cream puffs !!!!

 

[VFL-82-JP]

Wins on the field is what attracts recruits..................no longer Universities or coaches attracts players as much as wins !!! Just my opinion...................and this includes wins against reputable opponents, not cream puffs !!!!

I think every single recruit is different. What attracts them will vary wildly.

Girls and beaches? That's how Miami and UCLA attract some.
Great academic reputation? Believe it or not, yes for a few.
Best chance at a national championship? You know it.
Hard schedule against nationally-recognized opponents? Absolutely, for some.
Really excellent mentors on the coaching staff for development of NFL-level skills? Definitely a big one for many.
Coaches who care, an atmosphere of trust and family? It's one of the things helping Heupel & Co right now.
$$$, whether NIL or old-fashioned Bama cheating? Has always been the #1 consideration for some.
Reputation for getting the most players into the league after college? Yes, this too is important.
Childhood favorite team? Just ask Jack Jones if this isn't key for some.

It is easy for us to put OUR perspectives in front, to assume what WE would hold important is also important to most recruits. But they're each unique. They each have their own history, background, family, community, high school coaches and mentors. They each come at it their own way.

None right, none wrong, just each their own.

Go Vols!

 

[overseasorange2]

Also, it’s August. There will be a lot of movement from now until NSD.

Seems I hear this one every year, sometimes a different month. "It's just May", "It's just October" , ETC, ETC.

 

[VOLfrombama]

Winning cures all. If they can get to 9 or 10 wins this season, we will see more interest from higher rated recruits.

Until then it will be tough to sell the vision of rising back to greatness.

 

[The Original Fade]

Kudos to Sam Pittman with the #5 ranked class. Tough place to recruit, he’s the right guy for that job.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Seems I hear this one every year, sometimes a different month. "It's just May", "It's just October" , ETC, ETC.

Because it’s legit. No reason to be overly concerned with recruiting in August. Remember this time last year we didn’t have Pearce, JWT ir Tyre West.

 

[Boston Vol]

Tennessee will most likely finish in the 11-15 range nationally. Solid base to build on, but certainly need to up the overall quality if they hope to compete with the Bamas and UGAs of the world.

 

[overseasorange2]

Tennessee will most likely finish in the 11-15 range nationally. Solid base to build on, but certainly need to up the overall quality if they hope to compete with the Bamas and UGAs of the world.

I think if Nico stays for his 4 years, with the additional recruits he could attract, we will be a problem for Bama, UGA, etc.