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volssam said:
It really is crazy how he still has so much support. I don't understand it anymore.

I could somewhat at first understand the passionate and complete rejection of the political correctness that has taken root in our country. But at this point, trump has crossed so many lines and said so many awful things, I don't understand the seemingly blind loyalty of his supporters, especially the Christian ones.

Look how trump responds when anyone tries to verbally question/attack him. Can you imagine him as the commander of the armed forces and with nuclear weapons at his disposal?
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A lot of the Trump support is coming from former Obama voters and reality tv viewers. Wait....I think that may be a redundant statement.
 
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JRVFL said:
Pretty sure you just made that up. If not, show me the proof.
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From my personal experience, a lot of the people in my community who are big Trumpkins were in fact Obama voters. They have a tendency to make hasty decisions. Some of them voted for Romney the second time, but so far every single Trump person I've identified in my sphere is formally an Obama voter. That's why you'll see Trump do better in blue states along with Bush and Kasich. I'm not the only person who believes this either. The Donald started out with a good number of base voters, but he's closing out with mainly a blue dog democrat kind of base. Trump has made some very unconservative comments lately which is leaving him with fewer republican base voters and more wishy washy, go both ways depending on who's the most flashy kind of people.

Donald Trump Supporters are Liberal and Moderate Republicans, Not Conservatives | National Review Online

Why these Obama voters are backing Donald Trump - CNNPolitics.com
 
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InVOLuntary said:
If Trump goes on to get the GOP nomination it will be the biggest con job in our nation's history by a long shot. If he's elected president it may have unimaginable consequences. Can you imagine a ticket of Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump? :disappointed:
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NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING, will be worse than the muslim loving, socialist, traitor we have as potus right now!



Unless, Hillary is elected!!
 
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I haven't followed this ooltewah case very closely. I'm an attorney in Chattanooga and I see "behind the scenes" enough to know that the truth is never as sensational as the TFP reports it.

Chattanooga's police chief blasts Gatlinburg detective for Ooltewah rape testimony | Times Free Press

So Now there's a police officer saying that this rape thing isn't the crime of the century. He's in addition to a HS ball coach, some school administrators, the former superintendent, and probably a couple other people.

I know there is more to the story. I have a hard time believing that these people all independently reached the same conclusion without there being some basis for it. I really can't fathom making that same determination. And I'm never more authoritarian than these types of people.

So what am I not getting?
 
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Skullbone said:
From my personal experience, a lot of the people in my community who are big Trumpkins were in fact Obama voters. They have a tendency to make hasty decisions. Some of them voted for Romney the second time, but so far every single Trump person I've identified in my sphere is formally an Obama voter. That's why you'll see Trump do better in blue states along with Bush and Kasich. I'm not the only person who believes this either. The Donald started out with a good number of base voters, but he's closing out with mainly a blue dog democrat kind of base. Trump has made some very unconservative comments lately which is leaving him with fewer republican base voters and more wishy washy, go both ways depending on who's the most flashy kind of people.

Donald Trump Supporters are Liberal and Moderate Republicans, Not Conservatives | National Review Online

Why these Obama voters are backing Donald Trump - CNNPolitics.com
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Ah, so you present personal and anecdotal evidence to support your sweeping generalization. OK, so you did make it up. It's not "a lot" whatsoever.
 
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JRVFL said:
Ah, so you present personal and anecdotal evidence to support your sweeping generalization. OK, so you did make it up. It's not "a lot" whatsoever.
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I posted two articles that supported what I said. I did not say all his supporters are Obama voters. I said a lot. That's a fact jack. I'm sorry if that offends you. Let's start an internal poll with you. Are you a Trump supporter and did you vote for Obama?
 
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Skullbone said:
I posted two articles that supported what I said. I did not say all his supporters are Obama voters. I said a lot. That's a fact jack. I'm sorry if that offends you. Let's start an internal poll with you. Are you a Trump supporter and did you vote for Obama?
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Again, "a lot" is not a fact. It's something you made up. The first article said liberal to moderate republicans. The second article highlighted specific people. Not sure you understand how facts work... A "few" or "some" would work.
 
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Polls show Trump up 2-1 nationwide on Cruz and Rubio individually with Hillary/Bernie essentially a dead heat. Everybody dropping out except Cruz/Rubio needs to happen on the GOP side. Once the dust settles we will know what we have and which of those two needs to counter him.

Trump will definitely get crossover votes. He's a blue state demagogue that gets the populist votes in the red states. Fits right in. Whether that is a lot or some doesn't matter. It's enough to put him over the top with how the majority of Americans not in the BLM feel about the state of our country. Voter participation is going to jump if he wins the GOP and Hillary gets the Dem nod. There are plenty of Dems that absolutely and deservedly hate her and will vote for Trump because of his blue state ties.

Trump planned this out over 4 years ago and is executing the plan to perfection. If he wins, will he stay on point with the positions he is selling or will he be who he has appeared to be from his past and bluster? That's the real question. If he is sincere and wants an 8 year deal to transform the country he will stay on point. If it was all about the show, he will be out in 4 years.
 
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Vols4us said:
Polls show Trump up 2-1 nationwide on Cruz and Rubio individually with Hillary/Bernie essentially a dead heat. Everybody dropping out except Cruz/Rubio needs to happen on the GOP side. Once the dust settles we will know what we have and which of those two needs to counter him.

Trump will definitely get crossover votes. He's a blue state demagogue that gets the populist votes in the red states. Fits right in. Whether that is a lot or some doesn't matter. It's enough to put him over the top with how the majority of Americans not in the BLM feel about the state of our country. Voter participation is going to jump if he wins the GOP and Hillary gets the Dem nod. There are plenty of Dems that absolutely and deservedly hate her and will vote for Trump because of his blue state ties.

Trump planned this out over 4 years ago and is executing the plan to perfection. If he wins, will he stay on point with the positions he is selling or will he be who he has appeared to be from his past and bluster? That's the real question. If he is sincere and wants an 8 year deal to transform the country he will stay on point. If it was all about the show, he will be out in 4 years.
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I agree with everything you say. I think Trump is saying whatever gets him the job. I don't think he plans on following through with anything. I think he's wolf in sheep's clothing. I think he's a left leaning liberal at heart and is pulling off the biggest con-job in our nations history. I think the only hope we have is if All but a couple drop out and the remaining get most of the votes. I think it's about over.

This reminds me of the election where Ross Perot ran as an independent and pulled the votes almost exclusively from the GOP basically handing the election to the democrats.
 
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Vols4us said:
Polls show Trump up 2-1 nationwide on Cruz and Rubio individually with Hillary/Bernie essentially a dead heat. Everybody dropping out except Cruz/Rubio needs to happen on the GOP side. Once the dust settles we will know what we have and which of those two needs to counter him.

Trump will definitely get crossover votes. He's a blue state demagogue that gets the populist votes in the red states. Fits right in. Whether that is a lot or some doesn't matter. It's enough to put him over the top with how the majority of Americans not in the BLM feel about the state of our country. Voter participation is going to jump if he wins the GOP and Hillary gets the Dem nod. There are plenty of Dems that absolutely and deservedly hate her and will vote for Trump because of his blue state ties.

Trump planned this out over 4 years ago and is executing the plan to perfection. If he wins, will he stay on point with the positions he is selling or will he be who he has appeared to be from his past and bluster? That's the real question. If he is sincere and wants an 8 year deal to transform the country he will stay on point. If it was all about the show, he will be out in 4 years.
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I don't think it will be enough... Which is exactly why a lot or some matters. That will decide the election.

Check out the swing state head to heads. National polls mean nothing. I don't think he can win the general election. It's a completely different animal from the Republican primaries.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - Virginia: Trump vs. Clinton

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - New Hampshire: Trump vs. Clinton

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - Iowa: Trump vs. Clinton
 
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JRVFL said:
Again, "a lot" is not a fact. It's something you made up. The first article said liberal to moderate republicans. The second article highlighted specific people. Not sure you understand how facts work... A "few" or "some" would work.
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I believe it's a fact. I should have worded it differently so as to reflect it as an opinion until I poll all 320 million Americans and prove that thousands of former Obama voters are supporting Trump. But for the record, many liberal and moderate Republicans are former Obama voters. The second article did indeed highlight individuals. Individuals which represent a large enough portion of Trump's support to label it "a lot." If you want to quibble over how many exactly constitutes a lot that's okay, but what I've explained is a real phenomena. There is supporting evidence everywhere. The "Stump for Trump" ladies for example are not isolated cases. Rush Limbaugh said as much yesterday afternoon. It doesn't mean Don doesn't also have "a lot" of other kinds of supporters. Those two facts can coexist at the same time. The point is Donald is not a republican base kind of guy. Also, I noticed you never answered my question. Are you a Trump supporter and did you vote for Obama?
 
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Skullbone said:
I believe it's a fact. I should have worded it differently so as to reflect it as an opinion until I poll all 320 million Americans and prove that thousands of former Obama voters are supporting Trump. But for the record, many liberal and moderate Republicans are former Obama voters. The second article did indeed highlight individuals. Individuals which represent a large enough portion of Trump's support to label it "a lot." If you want to quibble over how many exactly constitutes a lot that's okay, but what I've explained is a real phenomena. There is supporting evidence everywhere. The "Stump for Trump" ladies for example are not isolated cases. Rush Limbaugh said as much yesterday afternoon. It doesn't mean Don doesn't also have "a lot" of other kinds of supporters. Those two facts can coexist at the same time. The point is Donald is not a republican base kind of guy. Also, I noticed you never answered my question. Are you a Trump supporter and did you vote for Obama?
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See, you don't "believe" things to be fact. They are or they aren't. You should have worded it differently, agreed. That's my main point of contention, my man.

I would advise you to stop listening to Rush Limbaugh if you are interested in any sort of fact.

Lastly, HELL NO I'm not a Trump supporter.
 
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Yeah that's another reason to not make trump the nominee. He may not be able to win the general. Polls aren't favorable right now at least. And you write off some of the base, too. You can count me in that point too. Because I won't Vote for trump. He's too liberal and unpredictable IMO. Not voting for Hills or Bern either of course.

Just a sad situation, when in the primary, we actually have a constitutional-upholding, government-changing, moral alternative to trump. But people are just putting their head in the sand and ignoring all the warning signs about trump. Sigh
 
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JRVFL said:
See, you don't "believe" things to be fact. They are or they aren't. You should have worded it differently, agreed. That's my main point of contention, my man.

I would advise you to stop listening to Rush Limbaugh if you are interested in any sort of fact.

Lastly, HELL NO I'm not a Trump supporter.
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Lol, fair enough then. But now I'm curious. Who is it for you? Billary or Commie Sanders?

FTR El Rushbo is darn near infallible on the radio. I can see how a lefty wouldn't dig it though. He has real credibility and he slays leftist ideology every day. Hillsdale College doesn't give out endorsements of legitimacy to confirmed habitual liars. He has bulletproof political academic endorsement bonafides. That's why he's usually right in line with consistent, academic, constitutional conservative minds such as Thomas Sowell among others, for example.
 
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Skullbone said:
Lol, fair enough then. But now I'm curious. Who is it for you? Billary or Commie Sanders?

FTR El Rushbo is darn near infallible on the radio. I can see how a lefty wouldn't dig it though. He has real credibility and he slays leftist ideology every day. Hillsdale College doesn't give out endorsements of legitimacy to confirmed habitual liars. He has bulletproof political academic endorsement bonafides. That's why he's usually right in line with consistent, academic, constitutional conservative minds such as Thomas Sowell among others, for example.
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Don't know what to tell you. From a moderate independent POV, he's a blowhard.

Not feeling any of the candidates. I want a moderate who can work with both parties in Congress to get things done. Someone to bridge the growing divide. Would vote for Gov. Romney is a heartbeat. Curious to see if Bloomberg actually jumps in the fray.
 
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volssam said:
Yeah that's another reason to not make trump the nominee. He may not be able to win the general. Polls aren't favorable right now at least. And you write off some of the base, too. You can count me in that point too. Because I won't Vote for trump. He's too liberal and unpredictable IMO. Not voting for Hills or Bern either of course.

Just a sad situation, when in the primary, we actually have a constitutional-upholding, government-changing, moral alternative to trump. But people are just putting their head in the sand and ignoring all the warning signs about trump. Sigh
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Ted Cruz may be our last hope for a true conservative president in our lifetimes. We haven't had the chance to vote for one in 32 years. There's only one man with higher negatives in the political world than Hillary Clinton and his name is Donald Trump. No one has ever won the Presidency with those high negatives. Ever.
 
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JRVFL said:
Don't know what to tell you. From a moderate independent POV, he's a blowhard.

Not feeling any of the candidates. I want a moderate who can work with both parties in Congress to get things done. Someone to bridge the growing divide. Would vote for Gov. Romney is a heartbeat. Curious to see if Bloomberg actually jumps in the fray.
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Bloomberg? The anti gun, food control zealot? Oh dear lord.
 
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