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delfonic said:
Language is, and always has been, fluid. I don't see this as a valid argument for that reason.
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I would have never guessed you would argue against me, Delfonic. Never.

/sarcasm


Language is fluid to an extent. But gender-specific terms are not. They are as old as the world that God created.

Though if I recall correctly, you don't believe in that either. Which is your choice of course.

But the point is, gender-identifying terms are not and should not be fluid. IMO anyways
 
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volssam said:
I would have never guessed you would argue against me, Delfonic. Never.

/sarcasm


Language is fluid to an extent. But gender-specific terms are not. They are as old as the world that God created.

Though if I recall correctly, you don't believe in that either. Which is your choice of course.

But the point is, gender-identifying terms are not and should not be fluid. IMO anyways
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why are we talking about this.
 
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volssam said:
I would have never guessed you would argue against me, Delfonic. Never.

/sarcasm


Language is fluid to an extent. But gender-specific terms are not. They are as old as the world that God created.

Though if I recall correctly, you don't believe in that either. Which is your choice of course.

But the point is, gender-identifying terms are not and should not be fluid. IMO anyways
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Negative Ghostrider. You got the wrong guy.

Though if God created all the things you've described wouldn't it all so stand to reason that he created individuals with gender identities that fit outside the two predominant roles we've established? Where does God's creation end and aberration begin?

I, for one, am not comfortable drawing that distinction. I choose instead to err on the side of loving and being accepting.

If all I have to do to make someone feel loved is call them by a name they've chosen or a term they prefer then I'm happy to do so. It is, ultimately, a very small sacrifice for me and not something that compromises any of my core beliefs.
 
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delfonic said:
Negative Ghostrider. You got the wrong guy.

Though if God created all the things you've described wouldn't it all so stand to reason that he created individuals with gender identities that fit outside the two predominant roles we've established? Where does God's creation end and aberration begin?

I, for one, am not comfortable drawing that distinction. I choose instead to err on the side of loving and being accepting.

If all I have to do to make someone feel loved is call them by a name they've chosen or a term they prefer then I'm happy to do so. It is, ultimately, a very small sacrifice for me and not something that compromises any of my core beliefs.
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Last I'll post about it here, as others are apparently tired of it. So if you post a response, that's ok and up to you. But this is it for me. Apologies to others whom I am bothering by even posting this. Go Vols! One more week!

Apologies for the wrong accusation. I'm sorry for that.

If you'll see my earlier post, I said if they want to come up with something else to be called, then whatever. Just don't think we should be forced to abandon gender pronouns on the whole as a society.

Take care, Delfonic. Go Vols!
 
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delfonic said:
Negative Ghostrider. You got the wrong guy.

Though if God created all the things you've described wouldn't it all so stand to reason that he created individuals with gender identities that fit outside the two predominant roles we've established? Where does God's creation end and aberration begin?

I, for one, am not comfortable drawing that distinction. I choose instead to err on the side of loving and being accepting.

If all I have to do to make someone feel loved is call them by a name they've chosen or a term they prefer then I'm happy to do so. It is, ultimately, a very small sacrifice for me and not something that compromises any of my core beliefs.
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Where does it end? The Political correctness is getting out of hand.
 
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volssam said:
If you'll see my earlier post, I said if they want to come up with something else to be called, then whatever. Just don't think we should be forced to abandon gender pronouns on the whole as a society.
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Was there an amendment I missed that forced us to abandon anything?
 
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volssam said:
Last I'll post about it here, as others are apparently tired of it. So if you post a response, that's ok and up to you. But this is it for me. Apologies to others whom I am bothering by even posting this. Go Vols! One more week!

Apologies for the wrong accusation. I'm sorry for that.

If you'll see my earlier post, I said if they want to come up with something else to be called, then whatever. Just don't think we should be forced to abandon gender pronouns on the whole as a society.

Take care, Delfonic. Go Vols!
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You too. Go Vols!
 
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The Spanish speaking community is in trouble. Almost every word has a gender assignment...


This offseason needs to end now.
 
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jave36 said:
Ya, this notion that all departments on UT payroll have autonomy to speak in a way that makes it look like it's a university sanctioned message is nonsense.
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That's the thing: the diversity department wasn't claiming to speak as the university administration making policy. They were speaking as the diversity department promoting diversity. There's a big difference that some people don't want to see because the idea of using a gender neutral pronoun scares them.

This whole thing should have been laughed about and ignored. But that's not how Clay Travis gets views to his site, you know.
 
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JacketVol said:
This is the sort of reaction that will allow it one day to be the norm like so many other things we are seeing.
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1. Doubt it. People aren't gonna take the time to stop using normal pronouns to the extent that "zi" becomes the norm. The reactions to this should tell you that. Even the people who think this is a non-issue (like me) think the whole idea is silly and that it's better to have a conversation with someone like an adult about what they'd like to be called rather than trying to coerce the whole population into using made up words so people won't get "offended."

2. If I'm wrong and it does, then so what? If the majority of America thinks adopting gender neutral pronouns is the way to go, then fine. There's no law and will never be a law that says you have to speak that way if you don't want. Young people wanting to say xi and xir doesn't hurt anybody in any way.
 
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BigOrangeVols said:
No but the gays want it. And will say they're offended if we don't and hold rallies and make us feel guilty and homophobic if we don't. And we just don't really want to deal with it
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You realize that being gay and wanting to use gender neutral pronouns aren't necessarily related, right. It's a trans issue. Being trans doesn't necessarily make someone gay.
 
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I had an Oy Vey taco (beef brisket) at Taco Mamacita last night. Had them add some crumbled Chorizo sausage on it.... ✊🏻

Excellent!
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
I didn't word my initial post well. It isn't a student group.

But that doesn't mean that every message they send out is a part of university policy. Most of the faux-outrage is people thinking the university is pressuring people to use these pronouns. But it isn't. Just like the university's policy isn't that everybody must accept evolution just because the anthropology department has an evolution exhibit in mcclung museum.

A department of the university can endorse and promote an idea without it being part of the university's official stance or policy. It shouldn't be that hard to understand. People just want to an excuse to feel persecuted. It's really ironic.
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It really has nothing to do with gender neutrality - and I am confident that Caitlyn Jenner would agree - it was just lacking of any hint of common sense imo. Might just as well have suggested using the Vulcan sign for peace each morning at the start of class - asking all the students if they want to go by the name they use on their home planet so that space aliens - are not offended. In the grand scheme of things I am sure it will blow over shortly, it just bothers me that anyone that criminally stupid is drawing a pay check - and that I am helping to pay her.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
That's the thing: the diversity department wasn't claiming to speak as the university administration making policy. They were speaking as the diversity department promoting diversity. There's a big difference that some people don't want to see because the idea of using a gender neutral pronoun scares them.

This whole thing should have been laughed about and ignored. But that's not how Clay Travis gets views to his site, you know.
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I honestly doubt that using a gender neutral pronoun scares people - I might have the same reaction if another department announced they are recommending people may want to speak in Pig Latin for their classes going forward. I am also certain there are a lot more important legitimate things that the diversity department could be focused on.
 
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Now that we have women on the front lines of battle in our military how long do you think it will be before we have to register our 18 year old daughters with the draft board? They say never but I don't believe that. One day its coming. The box has been opened.
 
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Skullbone said:
Now that we have women on the front lines of battle in our military how long do you think it will be before we have to register our 18 year old daughters with the draft board? They say never but I don't believe that. One day its coming. The box has been opened.
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I don't see a reason why they shouldn't have to register. Israeli women serve terms in the military. Modern warfare technology has reduced the gap between the male/female potential for battlefield effectiveness.

Society has been espousing gender equality for the past 4-5 decades. If we really believe what the feminists have been selling, then there's no reason women shouldn't be eligible for the draft.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
I don't see a reason why they shouldn't have to register. Israeli women serve terms in the military. Modern warfare technology has reduced the gap between the male/female potential for battlefield effectiveness.

Society has been espousing gender equality for the past 4-5 decades. If we really believe what the feminists have been selling, then there's no reason women shouldn't be eligible for the draft.
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That's exactly what I'm suggesting. The problem is that I don't believe what the feminists have been selling, and there's no way in hell uncle Sam is going to put my little girls in infantry unvoluntarily without killing me first.
 
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