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Since I'm not a legal or a NBA expert, I'm wondering if the NBA really can take the Clipper franchise away from Sterling? This man is a billionaire and he bought this team and unless there are rules the owners have agreed to follow to be able to buy a team and retain ownership I don't understand how the NBA can "take" it away from him. Will they have to pay him market value for the team? I do not condone what he said but I still wonder about his "rights" as an owner. Other businessmen and politicians have said worse things about people and groups of people and no one tries to take their businesses or force the politicians out of office. I think part of his problem is that he has so much money that he feels no one can tell him what to say, think or do.
 
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Dexter was great except for the Rita years. Deb definitely made the most creative usage of the F word of all time. Ending is disappointing but worth the ride.
 
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OldVol49vfl said:
Since I'm not a legal or a NBA expert, I'm wondering if the NBA really can take the Clipper franchise away from Sterling? This man is a billionaire and he bought this team and unless there are rules the owners have agreed to follow to be able to buy a team and retain ownership I don't understand how the NBA can "take" it away from him. Will they have to pay him market value for the team? I do not condone what he said but I still wonder about his "rights" as an owner. Other businessmen and politicians have said worse things about people and groups of people and no one tries to take their businesses or force the politicians out of office. I think part of his problem is that he has so much money that he feels no one can tell him what to say, think or do.
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It's in the contract his team has with the NBA. I suppose, if there's no set term, he could extricate his team from the NBA and join another league (if there is one). It's legal. Just the same as if you bought a Subway franchise and refused to sell the sandwiches on their menu, they can take away your ownership of a Subway franchise. The value of the team is its affiliation with the league.
 
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unioncityvol said:
Dexter was great except for the Rita years. Deb definitely made the most creative usage of the F word of all time. Ending is disappointing but worth the ride.
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My man. Exactly what I was trying to say earlier in the thread. One reason I liked the Lithgow season so much is because it solved that problem.
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My two cents... I have seen evidence that CBJ and others on this staff are spiritually strong men. I have also seen evidence that they value faith in others. I believe that if the coaches see a young man trying to do right by getting closer to God rather than just a promise to do better at following the rules, they would be more apt to take a chance. Maybe I am projecting, but if the kid is trying to make his life right rather than trying merely to stay eligible for football, I say give him a shot. It is in the best interest of the team and the kid. Flamesuit on.
 
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BondJamesBond said:
My two cents... I have seen evidence that CBJ and others on this staff are spiritually strong men. I have also seen evidence that they value faith in others. I believe that if the coaches see a young man trying to do right by getting closer to God rather than just a promise to do better at following the rules, they would be more apt to take a chance. Maybe I am projecting, but if the kid is trying to make his life right rather than trying merely to stay eligible for football, I say give him a shot. It is in the best interest of the team and the kid. Flamesuit on.
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(*breaks out the flamethrower*)

What if, they did exactly as they should and exactly as they NEED to, and left God completely out of the equation?? You gonna tell a 5* RB with 4.2 speed "sorry, we don't want you because you believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster"??? Didn't think so. Let God sit this one out. He can watch from the stands.
 
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DeusExMachina said:
(*breaks out the flamethrower*)

What if, they did exactly as they should and exactly as they NEED to, and left God completely out of the equation?? You gonna tell a 5* RB with 4.2 speed "sorry, we don't want you because you believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster"??? Didn't think so. Let God sit this one out. He can watch from the stands.
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Your screen name is so apt.
 
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DeusExMachina said:
(*breaks out the flamethrower*)

What if, they did exactly as they should and exactly as they NEED to, and left God completely out of the equation?? You gonna tell a 5* RB with 4.2 speed "sorry, we don't want you because you believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster"??? Didn't think so. Let God sit this one out. He can watch from the stands.
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Never underestimate the power of a truly changed life. Not one based on man's willpower, but a supernatural change. It doesn't produce perfection in this life because we are still a fallen creation, but it can be a very good indicator of future performance if you see the fruits of change.
 
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Brillovol said:
Never underestimate the power of a truly changed life. Not one based on man's willpower, but a supernatural change. It doesn't produce perfection in this life because we are still a fallen creation, but it can be a very good indicator of future performance if you see the fruits of change.
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DeusExMachina said:
(*breaks out the flamethrower*)

What if, they did exactly as they should and exactly as they NEED to, and left God completely out of the equation?? You gonna tell a 5* RB with 4.2 speed "sorry, we don't want you because you believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster"??? Didn't think so. Let God sit this one out. He can watch from the stands.
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Pay attention. I said that a kid trying to change his life rather than just following rules would likely influence a coach in Hus decision process. Life is hardly as trivial as you and your clichéd metaphor would suggest. There are lots of talented players whose behavior can be a cancer on team chemistry. He was bad enough that he has been kicked off of one team already despite his stars and his speed. CBJ won't take unless he believes the kid has changed. I gave an example of discernable change.
 
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BondJamesBond said:
My two cents... I have seen evidence that CBJ and others on this staff are spiritually strong men. I have also seen evidence that they value faith in others. I believe that if the coaches see a young man trying to do right by getting closer to God rather than just a promise to do better at following the rules, they would be more apt to take a chance. Maybe I am projecting, but if the kid is trying to make his life right rather than trying merely to stay eligible for football, I say give him a shot. It is in the best interest of the team and the kid. Flamesuit on.
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No flamesuit needed. Opinions are allowed.
 
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BondJamesBond said:
Pay attention. I said that a kid trying to change his life rather than just following rules would likely influence a coach in Hus decision process. Life is hardly as trivial as you and your clichéd metaphor would suggest. There are lots of talented players whose behavior can be a cancer on team chemistry. He was bad enough that he has been kicked off of one team already despite his stars and his speed. CBJ won't take unless he believes the kid has changed. I gave an example of discernable change.
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Horse excrement. Your initial premise, 14 words into your post, went straight to "spiritually strong". I quote your 3rd sentence: "I believe that if the coaches see a young man trying to do right by getting closer to God rather than just a promise to do better at following the rules".....where does that equal changing his life rather than following rules?? Nice flip-flop, by the way. Once again, God should watch this one from the stands. I don't care if a kid believes in Jabba the Hutt as a deity....if the kid can help Tennessee win games, and isn't a complete idiot, give him a scholly. Just because someone believes in your God doesn't make them perfect, slick. Try to remember that.
 
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DeusExMachina said:
Horse excrement. Your initial premise, 14 words into your post, went straight to "spiritually strong". I quote your 3rd sentence: "I believe that if the coaches see a young man trying to do right by getting closer to God rather than just a promise to do better at following the rules".....where does that equal changing his life rather than following rules?? Nice flip-flop, by the way. Once again, God should watch this one from the stands. I don't care if a kid believes in Jabba the Hutt as a deity....if the kid can help Tennessee win games, and isn't a complete idiot, give him a scholly. Just because someone believes in your God doesn't make them perfect, slick. Try to remember that.
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I think you're digging too deeply into what he was getting at. I took it to be...

There is a definite difference in outcome when you compare one person who just follows the rules for a desired outcome versus another person who follows the rules because he knows it's the right thing to do.
 
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Brillovol said:
I think you're digging too deeply into what he was getting at. I took it to be...

There is a definite difference in outcome when you compare one person who just follows the rules for a desired outcome versus another person who follows the rules because he knows it's the right thing to do.
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Six of one, half a dozen of the other. I knew what he was saying, Brillo. I just don't get where God needs to come into the equation.
 
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DeusExMachina said:
Six of one, half a dozen of the other. I knew what he was saying, Brillo. I just don't get where God needs to come into the equation.
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Because God gives the wisdom and love, which in turn gives man the eternal understanding between right and wrong.
 
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DeusExMachina said:
Horse excrement. Your initial premise, 14 words into your post, went straight to "spiritually strong". I quote your 3rd sentence: "I believe that if the coaches see a young man trying to do right by getting closer to God rather than just a promise to do better at following the rules".....where does that equal changing his life rather than following rules?? Nice flip-flop, by the way. Once again, God should watch this one from the stands. I don't care if a kid believes in Jabba the Hutt as a deity....if the kid can help Tennessee win games, and isn't a complete idiot, give him a scholly. Just because someone believes in your God doesn't make them perfect, slick. Try to remember that.
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No problem. Sorry about your comprehension problems. In the past, the kid apparently has been a complete idiot. You decide what you think is evidence that he has changed. I suggested based on observation something what I think the coaches might see as evidence of change. Play word games if you like. Fortunately I think the coaches will show better judgment than you on this decision, regardless of what they decide and regardless of the basis of that decision. Because their decision matters. Yours and mine don't. We can afford to be wrong. Coaches can't.

I will drop this as it was speculation on decision criteria for taking a kid and you want to make it a "Does God Exist" debate which I think is inappropriate for this forum. If you wouldn't consider whether the kid has made a fundamental change in his beliefs, fine. If you don't think CBJ would consider this, that's fine too.
 
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