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We are the United States, and as such, the President is elected by the states...not by the people. Thus we have the EC whose votes are allocated by the size of each state.

Residents of each state get to individually vote to see who their state will vote for. Most states are winner take all, but some states split their EC votes based upon the percentages. Each state can determine how it's votes are made.

The popular vote is such a misconception. If the country was not made up of individual states, then we would have a popular vote. But we don't. We have states and the states elect the President.

The reasons for the EC have been regurgitated within this thread multiple times.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I know exactly where you lie and almost just ignored your post but you seem to be ultra critical of Trump while ignoring almost the same ironic circumstances of the Hilleryites.
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Their side didnt win therefore it is not relevant to how grossly inept our president us. If hilary won i assure you i would be railing against her just as hard.
 
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utvolmaniac said:
We are the United States, and as such, the President is elected by the states...not by the people. Thus we have the EC whose votes are allocated by the size of each state.

Residents of each state get to individually vote to see who their state will vote for. Most states are winner take all, but some states split their EC votes based upon the percentages. Each state can determine how it's votes are made.

The popular vote is such a misconception. If the country was not made up of individual states, then we would have a popular vote. But we don't. We have states and the states elect the President.

The reasons for the EC have been regurgitated within this thread multiple times.
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If you want to take the civics class route, you should mention that states elect Electors who then cast their votes for President.

No one unclear about how the process works. The argument is about how it should work. :hi:
 
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Dust10 said:
If you want to take the civics class route, you should mention that states elect Electors who then cast their votes for President.

No one unclear about how the process works. The argument is about how it should work. :hi:
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It works how it should, with the states electing the president. :hi:
 
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glichtenwalter said:
In the 2010 Census, 249,253,271 people lived in urban areas. Even if only 70% of them voted it would mean 174,477,290 votes or 114,985,023 more votes than the population of the rural areas of the United States.

https://www.census.gov/geo/reference/ua/urban-rural-2010.html
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Urbanized Areas (UAs) of 50,000 or more people;
Urban Clusters (UCs) of at least 2,500 and less than 50,000 people.

“Rural” encompasses all population, housing, and territory not included within an urban area.

With the added information of what constitutes a rural area is a territory with less than 2,500, I'm struggling to find a map of rural America. Maybe you can help me out.
Either way I think we both may be using a bad example (or term) to describe population density.

Poverty by county may be a better indicator as to who may be on welfare.
Rural Poverty Decreases, Yet Remains Higher Than The U.S. Poverty Rate - Housing Assistance Council
 

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Dust10 said:
Wonder if Glich's "if you're on welfare, you don't get to vote" plan extends to non urban cities or nah?
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I am inclined to include if you receive government subsidies. However, the government manipulates commodities prices to make the things they approve of "cost effective" so it then drives the price of other things up. Let's start with the welfare recipients and eliminate government price meddling and then we'll see if we need to expand my voting suspension policy.
 
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TPP is dead and NAFTA is going to get renegotiated. Obamacare is being rolled back and companies are investing in America again. So far so good.

Yes, Trump is an egocentric Twitter crazy loudmouth... But I like his policies and agenda. America first.
 
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Dust10 said:
Wonder if Glich's "if you're on welfare, you don't get to vote" plan extends to non urban cities or nah?
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By looking at the maps poor people (probably on gov. assistance) tend to vote Dem. Of the poor that lean Dem seem to be areas high in Latinos, and African-American. The major out liar is KY and WV. Those poor bastards.

The 10 states receiving the most in federal aid as a percentage of their general revenue, in order, were:

Mississippi, 42.9% federal aid as percentage of general revenue.

Louisiana, 41.9%
Tennessee, 39.5%
South Dakota, 39.0%
Missouri, 38.2%
Montana, 37.4%
Georgia, 37.3%
New Mexico, 36.6%
Alabama, 36.1%
Maine, 35.3%
 
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glichtenwalter said:
I am inclined to include if you receive government subsidies. However, the government manipulates commodities prices to make the things they approve of "cost effective" so it then drives the price of other things up. Let's start with the welfare recipients and eliminate government price meddling and then we'll see if we need to expand my voting suspension policy.
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I'd rather just make it it ridiculously difficult to qualify for government aid. The whole "give a man a fish, feed him for a day, teach a man to fish, feed him for life" thing appeals to me strongly.
 
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Catbone said:
TPP is dead and NAFTA is going to get renegotiated. Obamacare is being rolled back and companies are investing in America again. So far so good.

Yes, Trump is an egocentric Twitter crazy loudmouth... But I like his policies and agenda. America first.
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A good read. Will give you an idea of what we need to start making in America. We are not competitive with the labor cost of other countries so when we start to make them we may not be able to afford them and we wont be able to export them because countries can get them from China cheaper. A portion of my income comes from imports so I'm interested in how this is going to play out. I would love to start building computers again on a larger scale with American parts.

https://www.thebalance.com/u-s-imports-and-exports-components-and-statistics-3306270
 
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Dust10 said:
I'd rather just make it it ridiculously difficult to qualify for government aid. The whole "give a man a fish, feed him for a day, teach a man to fish, feed him for life" thing appeals to me strongly.
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I agree that vocational education should be a prerequisite for aid. You have to learn a skill and meet certain grade level standards or you don't get your full check. Then once you have completed your training you have x number of months to find a job.
 
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glichtenwalter said:
I agree that vocational education should be a prerequisite for aid. You have to learn a skill and meet certain grade level standards or you don't get your full check. Then once you have completed your training you have x number of months to find a job.
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Are you suggesting that the government pay for someone to go to school and learn a trade? Sounds Bernie Sanders to me.
 
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Mick said:
Are you suggesting that the government pay for someone to go to school and learn a trade? Sounds Bernie Sanders to me.
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Only after they meet dust10's steep entry requirements
 
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glichtenwalter said:
I am inclined to include if you receive government subsidies. However, the government manipulates commodities prices to make the things they approve of "cost effective" so it then drives the price of other things up. Let's start with the welfare recipients and eliminate government price meddling and then we'll see if we need to expand my voting suspension policy.
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Can you direct me to more information on this? Like OPEC on price fixing?
 
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