Recruiting Forum Off-Topic Thread II

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So many on here keep presenting this as an either/or, mutually exclusive proposition: either you have faith in Jesus and His ability to save you or you put your faith in the act of baptism to save you. But that is an often-used yet false premise.

My faith is in God through Jesus's blood alone to save me, and it is my faith in that and in Christ that leads me to baptism because that is the way He said through the Word that He gave us that He said He will save me.
 
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Baptism means nothing if you aren't confirmed into the one holy Catholic and apostolic church anyway.

Don't get why everyone is arguing over it all so much:p
 
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Crookruss said:
I'm amazed anyone expected anything different. Stevie Wonder saw that coming.
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Yep. And it's the fan's fault. They say they all reacted to the Glenn thing earlier in the season, of course this is how the writers would do the finale.
 
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As I was leaving church yesterday I overheard a couple gentlemen discussing how this year was going to be the Cubs' year. I chuckled a little bit. Then I got the sad because ,being a Titans fan, I fear I will one day know the life long agony of never seeing my team win a championship. Anyway... LOL at all the Cubs' fans but kudos for your eternal optimism! :thumbsup:
 
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Thank the Lord we have gotten through "look how much I know about the bible" talk. With Mariotta and Demarco Murray and DGB, the Titans have a great core to make some noise.
 
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bignewt said:
Thank the Lord we have gotten through "look how much I know about the bible" talk. With Mariotta and Demarco Murray and DGB, the Titans have a great core to make some noise.
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I would like to be a Titans fan. But they haven't given the fringe fans much to get excited about lately.

Those 3 players you listed might get my attention though.

I hope they take Tunsil number 1. That would give them a really interesting offensive core to build around the next few years. That's enough talent on offense to make noise.

Enough to win? I dont know. But I'm at least paying attention now.
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
Where is the authority in the scriptures to make such a direct statement that God accepts baptism by sprinkling? By sand? I just want to see some scriptural justification, because I don't want to continue believing something that's wrong, if I'm missing something pertaining to this.

You admitted that there is no doubt all the baptisms that are recorded in the NT were via immersion. If so, where did God tell us and give us the authority to change the practice of baptism by immersion to something different? God tells us in Proverbs 14:12 and 16:25, "There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way to death." Look at all of the laws He instituted for worship and sacrifice in the OT...it is very easy to say that all of those sacrifices and the way to perform them could have become ritualistic. It's exactly why He struck Nadab and Abihu dead during their consecration period, because they went outside the laws that He gave of how to perform the sacrifices. They offered unauthorized fire, and God set the tone immediately to Israel and let them know that they had better not go outside of what He had commanded them to do.

Jesus told Nicodemus in John 3:5 that he must be born again of the water and Spirit. God tells us in Revelation 22:18-19 to not add nor take away from His word. By saying you can be baptized via sand, are you not adding to God's word? The Ethiopian eunuch and Phillip were traveling through the desert when the eunuch wanted to be baptized...they found water. I honestly believe that's one of the reasons God made this earth to be composed of 75% water...so that whenever someone wants to be baptized, they can find a body of water that is just big enough to immerse him/her.
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Also no one in the bible was ever baptized in the name of the father, son and Holy Ghost. The only way anyone in the bible was baptized was in Jesus name. Wonder why that changed as well??
 
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volfan_89 said:
Also no one in the bible was ever baptized in the name of the father, son and Holy Ghost. The only way anyone in the bible was baptized was in Jesus name. Wonder why that changed as well??
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Jesus himself commanded it in the following scripture:

18 And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age." - Matthew 28:18-20

If He commanded it, then that's all I need.
 
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seaofORANGE22 said:
I would like to be a Titans fan. But they haven't given the fringe fans much to get excited about lately.

Those 3 players you listed might get my attention though.

I hope they take Tunsil number 1. That would give them a really interesting offensive core to build around the next few years. That's enough talent on offense to make noise.

Enough to win? I dont know. But I'm at least paying attention now.
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I think their moves in free agency all point towards Tunsil being the pick. Gotta protect their investment in Mariota.
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
Jesus himself commanded it in the following scripture:

18 And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age." - Matthew 28:18-20

If He commanded it, then that's all I need.
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And what is the name of the father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost? None of those are names, they are titles. Do you think that all the people in the bible that were baptized in Jesus name were baptized wrongly?
 
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After reading a good bit of this discussion . After being raised a Baptist . Do you folks worship Christ , Or Paul/Saul .



“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

― Mahatma Gandhi
 
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beachbums624 said:
After reading a good bit of this discussion . After being raised a Baptist . Do you folks worship Christ , Or Paul/Saul .



“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

― Mahatma Gandhi
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You don't have to pick between the two. Unity is there. All you have to do is look for it. The traditions of men has deluded the harmony of scripture.
 
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volfan_89 said:
You don't have to pick between the two. Unity is there. All you have to do is look for it. The traditions of men has deluded the harmony of scripture.
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I think you do . Are you a Christian ? Or a Paulian ? Do you think what one says out weighs what the other said ?

My last post on it .
 
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volfan_89 said:
And what is the name of the father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost? None of those are names, they are titles. Do you think that all the people in the bible that were baptized in Jesus name were baptized wrongly?
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God. 3 separate entities who are in perfect harmony with one another. It's something that we as man have a very hard time wrapping our shallow minds around. Since Jesus is deity, why would there be anything wrong with being baptized in His name? After all, they were being baptized into His body/His kingdom/His church that He shed His blood for.
 
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