Recruiting Forum Off-Topic Thread II

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Skullbone said:
A dealer cannot sell a gun at a gunshow without conducting a background check. Only private citizens are allowed to sell their personal guns to individuals without background checks.

"Despite what some media commentators have claimed, existing gun laws apply just as much to gun shows as they do to any other place where guns are sold. Since 1938, persons selling firearms have been required to obtain a federal firearms license. If a dealer sells a gun from a storefront, from a room in his home or from a table at a gun show, the rules are exactly the same: he can get authorization from the FBI for the sale only after the FBI runs its “instant” background check (which often takes days to complete). As a result, firearms are the most severely regulated consumer product in the United States — the only product for which FBI permission is required for every single sale.

Conversely, people who are not engaged in the business of selling firearms, but who sell firearms from time to time (such as a man who sells a hunting rifle to his brother-in-law), are not required to obtain the federal license required of gun dealers or to call the FBI before completing the sale.

Similarly, if a gun collector dies and his widow wants to sell the guns, she does not need a federal firearms license because she is just selling off inherited property and is not “engaged in the business.” And if the widow doesn’t want to sell her deceased husband’s guns by taking out a classified ad in the newspaper, it is lawful for her to rent a table at a gun show and sell the entire collection.

If you walk along the aisles at any gun show, you will find that the overwhelming majority of guns offered for sale are from federally licensed dealers."

The Facts about Gun Shows | Cato Institute
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Not much point to a gun show if someone cannot buy a gun and walk out with it. I know for a fact background checks are pretty much instantaneous now so you are dead wrong here.
 
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Guyute said:
Are you in college or something? Sun is up at 0630, buddy. Don't waste your life sleeping in.
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First off, I'm not your buddy, friend.

I wake up at 5:45. I don't consider myself up all day by 10 am.

Need coffee to be productive in your day? Eat healthier and exercise.
 
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bignewt said:
Not much point to a gun show if someone cannot buy a gun and walk out with it. I know for a fact background checks are pretty much instantaneous now so you are dead wrong here.
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No, sir, you are wrong. Sometimes it does take days to get approved. Many times it only takes 10 minutes, also, but you are incorrect to assume there aren't delays in many cases. Actually, many more people are wrongfully denied by background checks than are correctly denied. It's not even close. I didn't author that piece. The Cato Institute did. They have more credibility on most any subject than either of us do. Also, how long it takes is not really relative to the main discussion we were having about whether the checks are done at all.
 
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Well my only point is that gun shows is where a lot of guns change hands and your statement that the checks take days was untrue. How would a gun show look if no one could buy a gun there? It would be empty. Cato needs to worry more about fessing up to what he saw OJ do.
 
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bignewt said:
Well my only point is that gun shows is where a lot of guns change hands and your statement that the checks take days was untrue. How would a gun show look if no one could buy a gun there? It would be empty. Cato needs to worry more about fessing up to what he saw OJ do.
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I just proved with verifiable sources who have data that backs up that what I quoted is true. You are correct that some are same day, 10 minute processes which was never denied by me or the Cato Institute, but some others are days long. It's a fact. They should be instant anyways. Instant is in the title of Instant Background Checks. And, again, we were discussing the fact that the vast majority of sales during gun shows are made through dealers and include background checks contrary to popular belief.

"Sometimes, these background checks might run for three days, but most often they take place over the duration of a single phone call. If the background check does not come back with a denial within those three days, then the gun purchase may be completed anyway."

Background Check - Gun | Laws.com
 
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utvols88 said:
First off, I'm not your buddy, friend.

I wake up at 5:45. I don't consider myself up all day by 10 am.

Need coffee to be productive in your day? Eat healthier and exercise.
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Well then...I'm not your friend, pal. How do you like that? Hurts doesn't it?

I'm calling for a "pink font" rule for when you are innocently joking with no intent to harm in your post.

Thanks for the health tip
 
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utvols88 said:
First off, I'm not your buddy, friend.

I wake up at 5:45. I don't consider myself up all day by 10 am.

Need coffee to be productive in your day? Eat healthier and exercise.
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I get up at 5:30, eat healthy all day, and exercise, but I always love and need my half a pot or more of coffee in the morning to get me going.
 
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Catbone said:
Still can't believe Hillary is going to win in a landslide. SAD!
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Meh, maybe not. It's a toss up really. It's a state by state race and all Don has to do is hold existing Republican territory and then win in Ohio and Florida. But just in case I'd go buy all the guns you ever wish to own before November. Probably salt, sugar, and butter, too.
 
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Skullbone said:
Meh, maybe not. It's a toss up really. It's a state by state race and all Don has to do is hold existing Republican territory and then win in Ohio and Florida. But just in case I'd go buy all the guns you ever wish to own before November. Probably salt, sugar, and butter, too.
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I'd stock up on tinfoil while you're at it
 
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Skullbone said:
You're right. Some people just want to ignore reality for leftist PC sake. They need to be defeated and hopefully in November they will be. Moral equivolance is a disease leftist suffer from and it's a terminal illness in this case. And lol at leftists accusing us of being political during a tragedy. Obama is the freaking President and he does it EVERY TIME. Thats why we're having the discussion. It's disgraceful.
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I'm reluctant to weigh in after I was crucified for being wordy in another thread but...Are you serious? Did you actually watched Trump's speech Obama's speech? Or get your "news" anywhere besides InfoWars? Obama called for a ban on assault weapons. Nothing new for him and the gun control measures have just been suggested by Trump as well. So unless you are talking about the President finally addressing that Trump doesn't have a logical hair in his comb-over, I don't really see how this is politicizing. Hell, the Republicans are happy THEY don't have to say it.
Trump, in the mean time, politicized the shootings in Orlando by personally taking credit for somehow anticipating an American ass**le shooting a bunch of people. He then used this moment to blame it on foreigners and has proposed a registry and hinted at internment camps. In the United States. That sounds like a politicization of the event to me. and an Un-American one.
Lastly, I honestly want to know where you have seen "moral equivalence" present in the was against terror. From Bush to Obama, where has the sentiment been put forth that they have a moral or ethical footing on ANY topic. ISIS are barbarians who use poverty, religion and a lack of education to recruit. And they use Trump's irrational lies and proposals in their recruiting brochures.
 
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Guyute said:
These posts were much funnier in their original thread. Off topic thread.....Where funny goes to die.
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Couldn't agree with you more. I just jumped from my shaming in the Jalen McKenzie therad to kicking open the door to a divisive political discussion.

Do you mind if I come visit you for some jello jokes when this gets too stupid?
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I swear I'm going to be bronze forever. League of Legends is all about what teammates your matched with
 
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Guyute said:
I'm reluctant to weigh in after I was crucified for being wordy in another thread but...Are you serious? Did you actually watched Trump's speech Obama's speech? Or get your "news" anywhere besides InfoWars? Obama called for a ban on assault weapons. Nothing new for him and the gun control measures have just been suggested by Trump as well. So unless you are talking about the President finally addressing that Trump doesn't have a logical hair in his comb-over, I don't really see how this is politicizing. Hell, the Republicans are happy THEY don't have to say it.
Trump, in the mean time, politicized the shootings in Orlando by personally taking credit for somehow anticipating an American ass**le shooting a bunch of people. He then used this moment to blame it on foreigners and has proposed a registry and hinted at internment camps. In the United States. That sounds like a politicization of the event to me. and an Un-American one.
Lastly, I honestly want to know where you have seen "moral equivalence" present in the was against terror. From Bush to Obama, where has the sentiment been put forth that they have a moral or ethical footing on ANY topic. ISIS are barbarians who use poverty, religion and a lack of education to recruit. And they use Trump's irrational lies and proposals in their recruiting brochures.
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Info wars? Really? No sir. I can beat you with real facts. Fact number one: you admitted Obama has called for an assault"weapon" ban. Almost all Democrats do. Obama probably can't get it done, but if Hillary is elected she will get a leftist majority on the Supreme Court. If that happens you can kiss them goodbye and God knows what else. That's a fact. If you want one you had better buy it now. Fact two: Bringing up gun control and even Donald Trump immediately after the tragedy in his first speech is the definition of political. He's the President and it's disgraceful. And third: I see moral equivalence every time people like Obama start twisting themselves in pretzels to explain how Islam has little to do with what's happening and how its actually our fault for having military bases or because we use their oil or because we have the Bill of Rights most specifically the Second Amendment thus basically suggesting that we're no better than the Islamo Nazis and Commies and have little right to be outraged at anything but ourselves when people are killed.
 
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