Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXIV

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Instant Impact: Kongbo and Byrd
Long term: Guarantano

I'd cool the jets a bit on Kongbo. I look for him to get Chris Weatherd type of minutes in his first season, as he learns how to actually play the game a bit. If it clicks, he could be a monster in years 2 and/or 3, but he's got to develop.
 
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Interesting and relevant quotes from SB Nation's "Meet the Bag Man" article:

Meet the Bag Man - SBNation.com

The bag men associated with certain schools pay potential signees one-time bonus payments not to visit a rival school that's offered a scholarship. The going rate is stated to be $2,500. This has become a popular tactic in recent years, as the recruiting process has become more publicized.

"You can have a rival coach who is considered a great recruiter, and he might say, 'We feel great about this kid, if we can just get him on campus.' Well, what if you can't even get him to show up? How great a recruiter are you now?"

This tactic is not universally employed. Some coaches encourage players to visit other campuses to recruit other players. (this ring a bell with anyone? Pretty sure Dabo did this with Johnson/Higgins, and Butch has probably done it as well. Williams at Auburn last year, perhaps.) Some like for everyone to know how many other schools have offered a player before he makes his choice, making it look like the chosen school beat an even longer list of rivals (Butch again). Regardless, it's a shining example of how influential shadow boosters are in the recruiting process and how crucial they are to the success of a coach's reputation as a good recruiter.

It's also how lame duck coaching staffs are created. If a majority of bag men want a particular coach out and an A.D. or president won't make a move, they'll just dry up funds.

"The coach won't know exactly when we decide to make that happen, but they've got a good idea. Then we get to see just how damn good a recruiter he really is. I know one of our guys once stopped putting in big bucks, way more than what I do, just because a head coach cussed too much on the team plane. [The coach] was losing anyway, but because he took the Lord's name in vain, that guy was offended by his morality and stopped illegally paying college football players." (Dooley?!?)
 
I'd cool the jets a bit on Kongbo. I look for him to get Chris Weatherd type of minutes in his first season, as he learns how to actually play the game a bit. If it clicks, he could be a monster in years 2 and/or 3, but he's got to develop.

I'll ignore what the other guy says and try and respond a little more reasonably.

I agree with your opinion, and I think it will be important for others to remember that he has only been playing football for max 3 years. Now, he has an extremely high ceiling, but it's likely he'll have an adjustment period, especially considering we play in a decent conference versus alright teams. I would warn against instant impact and a quick and unfair labeling of Bust.
 
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I'd cool the jets a bit on Kongbo. I look for him to get Chris Weatherd type of minutes in his first season, as he learns how to actually play the game a bit. If it clicks, he could be a monster in years 2 and/or 3, but he's got to develop.

D4H has spoken, you need to cool it bra.
 
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I didn't want to make a new thread asking this but does anyone know if any of the NSD Celebrations(Knox, Nash or Memphis) are online anywhere Youtube for instance?

Thanks
 
Keep the Douglas family in your thoughts and prayers. David has been recently put under the care of Hospice. His brother wrote to Basilio with this:

'Tony:

Thank you for giving me a forum to share this with your listeners.

As you know my brother David has been fighting stage 4 brain cancer for a little over three years. He was fortunate to have friends like Coach Cutcliffe and Jimmy Sexton since they helped him get into Dr. Henry at Duke University. In October he was at Duke for a regular check up and they noticed he had new tumors which meant the cancer was spreading. He did some intensive radiation and recently moved to a daily dosage of medicine to see if this could maintain the tumors, but this medicine was very hard on his body. He went to the emergency room Wednesday afternoon and now will be in the care of Hospice.

It is absolutely amazing how many people David touched in a positive way. When he was first diagnosed with cancer there were over 75 people that showed up at UT Hospital and their security had to ask everyone to go home due to the waiting room being over crowded. When I took him to his treatment at UT, there would be 10-15 people that work in the facility that would stop by just to check on him and say hello then go back to their desks or other floors that they worked on. He liked to go to Smokey Mountain Brewery in Maryville, and I had the opportunity to go with him after the Vanderbilt football game last year and waiters and waitresses would leave their station to come by and see David and most asked where he had been since the new tumors in October kept him from going there for several weeks.

I'm asking this audience to please pray for Karla and Ashley (11 years old). They are obviously still grieving for Aaron and now have to add their husband and Dad to their grieving. We know only GOD and prayers can help them manage this tough time so this is why I stopped Tony Wednesday afternoon at Smoky Mountain Brewery Turkey Creek to ask for your prayers and your listeners prayers.

The website for the foundation David and Karla started in honor of Aaron, with the focus being on helping people with Opiate addiction, is TheADFoundation.org. We are currently working with the Boys and Girls Club building Aaron's Music Room to give these kids an avenue to get involved with all types of music and the first room will be dedicated later this month in Loudon.

In Closing, I'm proud of my brother because tried his best in EVERYTHING that he did!

I cannot remember how many times people would ridicule David about me coming in on a scholarship but he did not have one so they would say "walk on go buy a scholarship" and he shrugged this off and went to work...back then it was to get bigger and stronger since that is why he only had small college offers.

He had multiple people tell him he will never get a scholarship at UT and he shrugged this off and went to work.

He then was placed on a scholarship in 1984 and several stated it is great you have a scholarship but you will never play., shrugged this off and went to work.

He then became a starter and the same people would say it is great you received a scholarship, great you are starting at UT but you will never get drafted, shrugged this off and went to work.

He was then drafted in the 8th round and was told you will never make an NFL Team etc...and as you know he played 6 years, had a key block on a kick-off return in the Bengals vs. 49ers Super Bowl.

When he came back to Knoxville in the off season and saw several of the people that stated get a scholarship, you will never play, never be drafted, never make a team in the NFL, he treated them like his best friends. I would not be man enough for this type of behavior since I would want to rub the NFL in their face...never from David since several of these guys are his best friends today.


Anyway, this is the type of person he is and just one small reason why so many people love him.


Thanks again for your help in praying for our family.


God bless you,


Steve Douglas'

Hugs to all of you. He has touched so many - I think all of us would be pleased to have made such a positive difference in so many lives.
 
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Even though he fell in the rankings, I'm still bummed we didn't sign Brodarius Hamm. Easily my favorite name of a recruit in the history of ever. I was ready to buy his jersey.

Surely the name on the back would be "Bro. Hamm", right? They couldn't have missed that opportunity.
 
Does anyone know when single game tickets go on sale?

I know that ticket prices get set in April. I looked into season tickets this year but it's just not worth it to me. Probably looking at close to $700 a seat minimum and that's for uppers under the jumbo. I'm thinking about buying Bama and Florida games and nothing else.

Edit: Please tell me that they aren't gonna force fans to buy season tickets to get those two games. I just found this in an article from last July.....

KNOXVILLE, Tenn. -- Single-game tickets for the 2015 Tennessee football season go on sale on Tuesday, July 14 starting at 8:30 a.m. ET. Be sure to visit UTTIX.com to order them.

The Orange & White mini-plan includes tickets to the Arkansas game on Oct. 3 along with the choice of two of the following four games: Western Carolina (Sept. 19), South Carolina (Nov. 7), North Texas (Nov. 14) or Vanderbilt (Nov. 28).

Tickets to the Oklahoma (Sept. 12) and Georgia (Oct. 10) games are still available by purchasing season tickets.

http://www.utsports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/071315aal.html

Is this how it was done last year or did they end up releasing single game tickets to Georgia and Oklahoma?
 
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