Recruiting Forum: Football Talk XVI

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I stand corrected on Rodgers preferring more air. But he never said he pumps them up beyond the rules limit.
 
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WinginFlorida said:
Rodgers said he likes the ball to be inflated because of his strong grip pressure and large hand size but doesn't believe that's the norm.

"The majority of quarterbacks, I would say more than half, are maybe on the other end of the spectrum and like it on the flatter side," he said on his show. "My belief is that there should be a minimum air-pressure requirement but not a maximum. There's no advantage, in my opinion -- we're not kicking the football -- there's no advantage in having a pumped-up football.

"There is, if you don't have strong grip pressure or smaller hands, an advantage to having a flat football, though, because that is easier to throw. So I think that is something they need to look at. There should be a minimum on the air pressure but not a maximum. Every game they're taking air out of the footballs I'm throwing, and I think that's a disadvantage for the way that I like them prepped."

Here's the link to the entire article:

Aaron Rodgers of Green Bay Packers upset referees take air out of footballs - ESPN
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I don't know about everyone else, but if I were one of Aaron's WR's, I would not want to catch an overinflated football when playing in 15 degree weather. Just hurts thinking about it.
 
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Atzar said:
Okay, maybe I'm not stating my case very well here. Let me try again.

I don't care about over- or under-inflated footballs. I don't. I think there's a very marginal advantage to be gained by skirting the rule in either direction. I have no quarrel with Aaron Rodgers, and my issue with the Patriots (aside from the sheer stupidity in trying to cheat against an already-overmatched opponent) is just the principle: they've been caught cheating again.

My original point was that suspending Belichick for a year is too much, and I brought up Rodgers to point out that people want the Patriots crushed because they hate the Patriots, not because what they did was so unforgivable. Does that make more sense?
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I personally don't have a problem with making the balls easier to throw and catch...Brad Johnson copped to paying attendants $7800.00 to roughing up the footballs in his Super Bowl, and stated he couldn't have won without it...buncha big deal over nothing, but as Omar Gaither said on Swain this morning, the Patriots have a history of cheating and if they'll do it over a little thing like this...what else can you say they're not doing? Fine and a loss of a first round pick didn't work after Spygate...before we decry Goodell being unfair, remember that the Commish had the video evidence of that ugly episode destroyed...they're bulletproof and they act like it...how do you deal with that?
 
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DaddyChad said:
What course of action would you suggest?

Put the Colts in the Super Bowl? Or just award the Seahawks the championship without the SB? Both of those scenarios are laughable. Harsh punishment though should be dealt out since they have a history of unethical behavior, suspend Belichek from coaching for a season and take away a first round draft pick if they're serious about teams cheating.
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I think it should go further than that. Belichek has been caught before. He should be suspended for at least 3 years. ( It could maybe be negotiated down later to two after the lawyers get involved. ) They should lose their first round pick this year and next year and their 2nd round pick For 3 years following that. If the penalty does not hurt then they won't stop cheating and a few other teams will.
 
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This is all ridiculous. The NFL is generating buzz like the Super Bowl is Wrestlemania and the Patriots hit the Colts with a steel chair to win the Royal Rumble.
 
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Atzar said:
Affecting the integrity of the game on the field twice still isn't as egregious as endangering the careers of targeted players though. At least in my opinion.

Like I said, if this all ends up pinned to Belichick then suspend him for the SB. Personally I think that sends a fitting message. But I think this 'suspend him for the year' stuff is rooted less in an interest in appropriate justice and more in a desire to hurt a hated franchise. Again, nobody is talking about Aaron Rodgers when he freely admits to trying to do the same thing.
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Your wrong on that for me at least. It is about the integrity of the game. I used to actually like the Patriots some before they got caught cheating the first time.
 
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Hey Ron Swanson, what have you been doing?

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Atzar said:
Jackie MacMullan is a hell of a writer. I know you guys probably don't have any reason to read her stuff very often, but she's really good.

She's also right on the money.
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Yeah she is. That was some awesome stuff to read. My watching of the NFL is now dependent on how they deal with this. If they blow this over I may not watch much NFL again. Stuff is getting really ridiculous.
 
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Atzar said:
Right... so he openly admits to trying it. Just because he said it to Simms and not some ESPN reporter doesn't mean he isn't openly saying it. The point in bringing Rodgers's comments up is that there's a double standard, and I'm attempting to call attention to it. People hate the Patriots, so they want blood. People don't hate Rodgers, so it's shrugged off as an idiosyncrasy and a nonstory.

I'm not trying to deflect. VolGee was right - this is the second time the Patriots have been caught trying to cheat, and they do need to pay for it. My original point was simply that banning Belichick for a year is over the top, and this is where the discussion ended up.
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It was off the air. I'm not sure I'd term that "openly," but it's not like he's hiding it either. But let's not get into a semantics argument.

I'm not sure what's over the top when you keep cheating after already being caught. How many chances does he/they get?
 
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