Recruiting Forum: Football Talk XIV

[volstopfan14]

I didn't chart it, but I believe they either rolled out or called the run/pass option to the right more with Dobbs. I specifically recall it when he missed Pig over the top down the right sideline. It was a great call because it was the read option and then a pass toward the right.

That was not a designed roll out. That was an option play. Completely different. The play you are referring is basically just an extension of the triple option.

Every designed roll out we've run this season has been to the left.

 

[chavisut]

I think we're a couple more recruiting classes away. And I think these freshmen need to be juniors before we'll be top tier. 2016 should be a breakout year. I dont see next year as much better. Maybe a little but not much.

We should be better.

 

[The Breakerboy]

Whole team and offense believed in Dobbs last night. Big difference between him and Worley bird......

 

[smokeyhuntsgators]

What about elevenses?

A little birdie on the wall told me that you were contempt last night.. What's the deal, C-bone?:question:

 

[volstopfan14]

North can run over DBs. Go watch the Oklahoma game. He made a great play yesterday on a hitch getting up field. Getting him the ball really isn't too hard. His ball skills are ridiculous. Pearson should be used more downfield as well..

SN: Lane getting run down by a DE was ridiculous. Lol The WRs were dominating on the edge blocking wise all night though.

Just what I was about to say, there are no corners in the SEC that want to have to tackle North is the open field. The guy is a weapon. Use him.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Morning, Gentlemen!

A few thoughts on the game:

Impressed on how such a young team didn't fold when they got down 27-0. With the youth and inexperience amongst this team, that's a sign of improvement. Had this been Dooley, the team for sure would've folded.

Can't say enough about Dobbs. Inserting him into the game made all the difference in the world. The offense opened up more because he gave us that extra dimension that we needed. With a mobile QB in the game, that keeps defenses guessing and I could tell right away that Bama was like "wth?"

We didn't win the game, but we did win 3 outta 4 qts. against the #4 team in the nation. I know people are sick of hearing about moral victories and all that but it is what it is. Last night gave me hope that one day very soon, we will be a lot of ballgames. Our time is coming, and CBJ is the right coach to lead us there...

All that being said, I think as long as Dobbs plays like he did last night, we will reach our goal of 6 and earn a trip to a bowl game. That equals a successful season in my book; however, next year I expect more and think we get 8 wins.

Very good summary. I'm still 50/50 on the bowl game. We have to get 3 of the last 4. I don't think SC at their place is going to be a pushover. I think both KY and Mizz will both be huge challenges for us. The inconsistency is what is bothering me.

 

[chavisut]

What about elevenses?

Luncheon? Afternoon tea? Dinner? Supper?

 

[butchna]

Morning, Gentlemen!

A few thoughts on the game:

Impressed on how such a young team didn't fold when they got down 27-0. With the youth and inexperience amongst this team, that's a sign of improvement. Had this been Dooley, the team for sure would've folded.

Can't say enough about Dobbs. Inserting him into the game made all the difference in the world. The offense opened up more because he gave us that extra dimension that we needed. With a mobile QB in the game, that keeps defenses guessing and I could tell right away that Bama was like "wth?"

We didn't win the game, but we did win 3 outta 4 qts. against the #4 team in the nation. I know people are sick of hearing about moral victories and all that but it is what it is. Last night gave me hope that one day very soon, we will be a lot of ballgames. Our time is coming, and CBJ is the right coach to lead us there...

All that being said, I think as long as Dobbs plays like he did last night, we will reach our goal of 6 and earn a trip to a bowl game. That equals a successful season in my book; however, next year I expect more and think we get 8 wins.

You say everything so nice and it still makes sense...maybe I could take a gentler approach and RESIST THE NEED TO TEAR HOLES IN THESE IGNORANT NUMNUTS AND THEIR WISHY WASHY KNEEJERK.....I'll let you do it that way Smokey...going to church now. :angel:

 

[Ashevillevol]

I want to know why we always roll our right handed quarterbacks to the left. I'd think we'd do the opposite.

I recall several times when the pocket would break down, he would escape to the right. At that point you don't know whether he will run or pass but it sure was good to see that kind of ability to extend the play and make something happen. It should only get better the more he plays. I was one who did not have a lot of hope he could be productive after watching him last year. I was wrong and I only wish they had used him sooner. He still has two years after this year and we have other good options in the pipeline now that will be ready by then.

 

[smokeyhuntsgators]

Very good summary. I'm still 50/50 on the bowl game. We have to get 3 of the last 4. I don't think SC at their place is going to be a pushover. I think both KY and Mizz will both be huge challenges for us. The inconsistency is what is bothering me.

No..any away game in the SEC isn't a pushover, except for maybe Vandy, which equals another home game for us.

 

[InVOLuntary]

We should be better.

I think we'll be better but I'm not sure the record will reflect it. Still a very tough schedule.

 

[OldVol49vfl]

We have at least a half dozen posters on here if not more that can do it.

I agree. We have several posters that could take a good class 3-A Tennessee high school team and beat anyone they play in the SEC. They are wasting their lives working mediocre jobs making only $80,000 to $100,000 per year when they could go into coaching and make $3-5 million per year. I don't understand their reasoning.

 

[chavisut]

I think we'll be better but I'm not sure the record will reflect it. Still a very tough schedule.

At some point it needs to reflect in wins.

Not many excuses by year three.

 

[OldVol49vfl]

Seems like Pearson can be our version of Cooper. North can be the one who goes up and gets the fade in the endzone. I know if I were the OC I would be looking at the plays they ran against us, like the first play and getting those plays into our playbook. They can work for us too.

White (#2) held Cam Sutton or Cooper would not have scored. Official was right there and didn't throw a flag.
Edit: I believe it was Michael Williams instead of Cam.

 

[eazyTD]

From John Brice: #Vols OL opens from L to R: Brett Kendrick, Kyler Kerbyson, Mack Crowder, Jashon Robertson, Jacob Gilliam.

This is what needs to be on the field. They're not great but it was a massive improvement. Dobbs helped them a lot too. Quick throws or scrambling when the pocket would collapse instead of standing back there counting to 5 Mississippi.

 

[Stupified]

I agree. We have several posters that could take a good class 3-A Tennessee high school team and beat anyone they play in the SEC. They are wasting their lives working mediocre jobs making only $80,000 to $100,000 per year when they could go into coaching and make $3-5 million per year. I don't understand their reasoning.

I'll have one of those mediocre jobs please.

 

[OldVol49vfl]

Whole team and offense believed in Dobbs last night. Big difference between him and Worley bird......

I agree. I like Worley's toughness but Dobbs seems to be something special.

 

[VolGee4]

I think we'll be better but I'm not sure the record will reflect it. Still a very tough schedule.

I believe it will. Essentially 8 home games with the other west game not being as tough as the last few years. Also, I think we need to set the early goal of beating OU. They will lose some players, and we will have enough talent to win at home.

 

[unioncityvol]

3rd Dobbs for what?

Nick, SC game thread. Get on it. I'm ready to predict an ass whoopin.

 

[OldVol49vfl]

I'll have one of those mediocre jobs please.

Ha! I'd like to have had one of those too before I retired.

 

[VolGee4]

North can run over DBs. Go watch the Oklahoma game. He made a great play yesterday on a hitch getting up field. Getting him the ball really isn't too hard. His ball skills are ridiculous. Pearson should be used more downfield as well..

SN: Lane getting run down by a DE was ridiculous. Lol The WRs were dominating on the edge blocking wise all night though.

I don't disagree with that, but you won't see North do what Cooper does with short passes. Cooper can take it to the house. IMO, a shifter, quicker guy is better suited for that. I am not saying not to throw it to North in that situation at all, but that is not his strength. But hey, I only watch football.

 

[NMVol]

Cam Sutton pride. Just don't have words.

 

[VolGee4]

That was not a designed roll out. That was an option play. Completely different. The play you are referring is basically just an extension of the triple option.

Every designed roll out we've run this season has been to the left.

But the play was designed to the right. That's the point. They designed more plays to that side. Whether or not he keeps it or not doesn't matter. The play was designed that if he throws, it goes toward the right. You have to design a play for all possibilities.

 

[chavisut]

I don't disagree with that, but you won't see North do what Cooper does with short passes. Cooper can take it to the house. IMO, a shifter, quicker guy is better suited for that. I am not saying not to throw it to North in that situation at all, but that is not his strength. But hey, I only watch football.

North might not be able to house one, but he is tough after the catch.

 

[jspvol76]

Cam Sutton pride. Just don't have words.

Fighting to the last inch.