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Aesius said:
Josh Smith, Josh Malone, Jacob Carter, Pig Howard, Drae Bowles, Jonathan Johnson, not sure, Ryan Jenkins, Jason Croom, Vic Wharton, Marquez North, some old washed up QB, Von Pearson, Adrian Gamble, Coach Azz.
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I couldn't figure out Gamble or Johnson for the life of me.
 
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Wickman said:
Bottom left to right:
Josh Smith, Malone, Blanc?, Pig, Bowles?, Johnson?,Carter

Top L to R:
Gamble?, Pearson, North, Wharton, Croom, Jenkins
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I think bottom right dude is Blanc, he's huge. Not sure who 3rd left bottom guy is if so.
 
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Aesius said:
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How many games ya'll think we win this year if Peyton could somehow be QB?
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I was literally just thinking about this yesterday. Using last year's team, and even assuming all the inexperience at WR, I think Peyton's good for at least 3-4 more wins, maybe more, simply by cutting down drastically on the number of 3-and-outs. The 2013 D was better than most people realize, particularly towards the beginning of games, but as time would go on and the offense would be unable to keep drives alive, the D would simply get worn out.

In 2013 having Peyton Manning under center during what was possibly the statistically best offensive season ever for a QB is definitely good for wins over Florida, UGA, and Vanderbilt. He gives us a better than fighting chance against Missouri and Auburn. We probably still get waxed by Oregon and Alabama, but the score is a lot closer.
 
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Aesius said:
Josh Smith, Josh Malone, Jacob Carter, Pig Howard, Drae Bowles, Jonathan Johnson, not sure, Ryan Jenkins, Jason Croom, Vic Wharton, Marquez North, some old washed up QB, Von Pearson, Adrian Gamble, Coach Azz.
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Player on the far-right side of the bottom row is Cody Blanc.
 
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NashVOL93 said:
I was literally just thinking about this yesterday. Using last year's team, and even assuming all the inexperience at WR, I think Peyton's good for at least 3-4 more wins, maybe more, simply by cutting down drastically on the number of 3-and-outs. The 2013 D was better than most people realize, particularly towards the beginning of games, but as time would go on and the offense would be unable to keep drives alive, the D would simply get worn out.

In 2013 having Peyton Manning under center during what was possibly the statistically best offensive season ever for a QB is definitely good for wins over Florida, UGA, and Vanderbilt. He gives us a better than fighting chance against Missouri and Auburn. We probably still get waxed by Oregon and Alabama, but the score is a lot closer.
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Agreed.

What do you think his completion percentage would be if he had been allowed to go through fall camp with the team and work on timing, routes, etc.?

Obviously he would be throwing to much less talented receivers (except maybe North) than he's used to, but I imagine that he would just absolutely tear down every SEC defense, even Alabama's, with ease.

It would kind of be like LeBron going back and playing a season with Ohio State or something. The game would be so slow and laughably easy in comparison to what he's used to.
 
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Aesius said:
Agreed.

What do you think his completion percentage would be if he had been allowed to go through fall camp with the team and work on timing, routes, etc.?

Obviously he would be throwing to much less talented receivers (except maybe North) than he's used to, but I imagine that he would just absolutely tear down every SEC defense, even Alabama's, with ease.

It would kind of be like LeBron going back and playing a season with Ohio State or something. The game would be so slow and laughably easy in comparison to what he's used to.
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He wouldn't even throw picks in college games. He would also just kill any defense. Even with the marginal talent we had the players would play much different for Manning.....
 
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There's a picture in the "tweets" thread on here of Peyton and Dobbs side by side a year apart (would add, but mobile). It's amazing what one year......one year in a college level S&C program has done to that young man. Dobbs went from "this kid's gonna break in half with the first hit" to "he might be delivering some hits".
 
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The Breakerboy said:
He wouldn't even throw picks in college games. He would also just kill any defense. Even with the marginal talent we had the players would play much different for Manning.....
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Yeah.

I'm thinking his stat line through 12 games would look something like 4,500 yards, 40 TDs, 5 INTs (accounting for tipped passes), and 80% completion rate (accounting for dropped balls).

He could probably put up 500-600 yards per game against half the teams on the schedule.

The only downside is that he would probably get blitzed on nearly every play and would eventually take a few sacks from NFL-sized linemen.
 
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DeusExMachina said:
There's a picture in the "tweets" thread on here of Peyton and Dobbs side by side a year apart (would add, but mobile). It's amazing what one year......one year in a college level S&C program has done to that young man. Dobbs went from "this kid's gonna break in half with the first hit" to "he might be delivering some hits".
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Aesius said:
Yeah.

I'm thinking his stat line through 12 games would look something like 4,500 yards, 40 TDs, 5 INTs (accounting for tipped passes), and 80% completion rate (accounting for dropped balls).

He could probably put up 500-600 yards per game against half the teams on the schedule.

The only downside is that he would probably get blitzed on nearly every play and would eventually take a few sacks from NFL-sized linemen.
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No way. PM is the master of quick passes and he would eat up a constant blitz.
 
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I'm sorry but in this hypothetical about Peyton being under center vs how many wins, we would win them all. I don't care how many points our defense gave up we would score more. Peyton would find the one weak link and exploit it. It's like the argument that Alabama could beat the Jaguars or something. Would never happen. Alabama would get trounced. Every player on Bamas team is not NFL caliber. They used to do the college all stars vs super bowl Champs. The all stars who obviously didn't all play for the same team won like 9 out of the 45 times they played. Peyton Manning would shred every defense. We would win every game and as someone stated before it would be like NCAA on freshman mode.
 
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WarMachine said:
No way. PM is the master of quick passes and he would eat up a constant blitz.
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Could the Oline protect him as well as they do in the NFL?

He's not exactly mobile. I think he would take at least 2-3 sacks during the year due to the Oline simply crapping the bed on the play.

I'm also upping his completion percentage to 85 percent. Brees completed 71 percent of his passes during the 2011 NFL season. Peyton would easily destroy that against college teams. A good 10 percent of his incompletions would come from drops, too.
 
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