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drvenner said:
@utvols88 serious question. What did you think of the USWNT's performance today. I thought it was pretty stellar.. We still missed some good chances, but it appeared to me that the game was never in doubt.
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Don’t care and didn’t watch.... that’s the answer for most soccer fans, and that’s why they get paid less. Maybe they should change citizenships to another country and see how much they get paid
 
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Jack Burton said:
Counseling sounds ongoing. Can they do one session? I need their summary in bullet points. ;)

I’ll check it out though.
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Meet with one. Talk about family history so they know what panels to order. Then you get blood draw or spit. Get results. Meet more if you want more information on results. There aren also telemedicine GCs
 
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vol2002 said:
I recall listening to Mike Griffith last offseason on the radio before he left to cover the Dawgs, and he was criticizing the Helton hire saying we paid too much for an unproven coordinator and that Helton would be the one assistant he would be watching closely all season. Naturally, I considered Griffith to be a complete douche, so I ignored his commentary and took the contrarian view of Tennessee football that everything would come up roses in the end and Griffith would be proven a moron. However, like so many seasons before, the negative take won out and I was left baffled by how we could be so maddeningly inconsistent on offense.

I've decided to listen to any and all criticism of the Vols from the beat writers and to take it as the gospel truth. We're a 6 to 7 win team this year they say, so I believe them!
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Espn had us at 5-7 last year and we finished 5-7..
Espn has us at 9-3 this year, so by your logic... we’re a 9 win team.
 
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vol2002 said:
I recall listening to Mike Griffith last offseason on the radio before he left to cover the Dawgs, and he was criticizing the Helton hire saying we paid too much for an unproven coordinator and that Helton would be the one assistant he would be watching closely all season. Naturally, I considered Griffith to be a complete douche, so I ignored his commentary and took the contrarian view of Tennessee football that everything would come up roses in the end and Griffith would be proven a moron. However, like so many seasons before, the negative take won out and I was left baffled by how we could be so maddeningly inconsistent on offense.

I've decided to listen to any and all criticism of the Vols from the beat writers and to take it as the gospel truth. We're a 6 to 7 win team this year they say, so I believe them!
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Helton was respected enough to get a head coaching job after a mediocre season. It’s unfair to put all the blame on him. The only problem i have with him really is he was at least distracted those last few games on the WKU stuff.
 
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delfonic said:
I mean, don't let the facts burst your bubble or anything but:

USA-England is the most-watched game in any sport played during a work/school day in five years, dating back to the 2014 Men's World Cup.

UFC was carried by it's women's division for three of the past five years. People watching women's sports shouldn't be a shock to y'all anymore... specifically not for supporters of University of Tennessee athletics.
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Pretty sure the most watched soccer event in US history was the 2015 Women’s WC Final

Not too surprising but read that in a Forbes article recently.
 
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jackcrevol said:
it is, definitely. not like soccer but, glory days for baseball are gone.
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Soccer is not boring either. There is almost always SOMETHING going on it in both. The down time in baseball is roughly equal to football, the plays are just more individual than 22 football players moving at once. Glory days have nothing to do with it.
 
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vol2002 said:
I say scrap it all and go back to the old bowl system. Washington, Georgia Tech, BYU, etc could win in those days. Only 15 or maybe 20 programs in the country can consistently recruit at the level needed to win in the playoff era.

Most of the playoff games are lopsided blowouts too. CFB has a lot of uncompetitive (i.e., boring) games, let’s not kid ourselves.
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That old bowl system sucked. BYU won playing in the Holiday Bowl. Georgia Tech SHARED it with Colorado...who had two ties. Funny thing you bring up Washington. If they were the BEST team a couple of years ago? They would have won a NC. It’s way better now. Agree to disagree...I guess. Good thing is you’re in the insignificant minority that pine for that crap.
 
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HankHill said:
Nope but he was saying it was all on the players to play hard. In which i disagreed. Your primary job as the head coach of getting your team to play hard for you no matter the circumstances. Pruitt failed in that the last two games, as did holly, as did Dooley against Kentucky etc.
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Your primary job as a head coach is to do everything possible from the moment you recruit them all the way to every call by every coach to make it possible for your players to succeed. You leave nothing out from nutrition to training to teaching to coaching to hiring coaches to game planning to getting other players. A real athlete that wants to succeed will not need a cattle prod to play hard. So I guess the first job of a head coach is to recruit players that want to play hard. Half the team failed the last two games because they didn't have it in them, were exhausted and just didn't care about their teammates or a coach they didn't sign up to play for. Let's see how Pruitt's players do. Thompson and TaeTay and others didn't take plays off last year. There were even a few of Butch's players that never quit. There were a few that he probably wished he could have used a cattle prod on. From the comments of some of their teammates, they would have liked to have been able to use it on them. Give me a team with players like Ray Lewis that don't need a cheerleader but a coach.
 
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yourstruly23 said:
Espn had us at 5-7 last year and we finished 5-7..
Espn has us at 9-3 this year, so by your logic... we’re a 9 win team.
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Well, ESPN may think that but the Vol beat writers (e.g., Rucker; the VQ guys, etc.) keep telling me how mediocre our defensive line is and that an injury to JG could be devastating. So, by my logic, I'm going to assume our DL struggles to stop the run and to sack the quarterback, and that JG comes out of a few games with minor injuries, and that keeps us closer to 6 wins than 9 wins. I still think we go bowling and that a solid season helps us land a top 10ish class that brings us a step closer to relevance.
 
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butchna said:
That old bowl system sucked. BYU won playing in the Holiday Bowl. Georgia Tech SHARED it with Colorado...who had two ties. It’s way better now. Agree to disagree...I guess. Good thing is you’re in the insignificant minority that pine for that crap.
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Ha ha - yeah, next to no one likes my idea. Most prefer expanding the playoff to eight teams. I think that might be a little more entertaining, but it makes the problem I've raised worse. An upstart Boise State type team could win round 1 of the playoffs against at top 5 opponent in a major upset running trick plays, but no way they have the horses to win two more games in two weeks against Top 5 opponents. Bama, Georgia and Clemson have the talent to get through that grind right now. Possibly Ohio State. LSU and Texas A&M might be close. I honestly can't think of anyone else who is remotely close, though. ....We're a long, long ways away...
 
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vol2002 said:
Ha ha - yeah, next to no one likes my idea. Most prefer expanding the playoff to eight teams. I think that might be a little more entertaining, but it makes the problem I've raised worse. An upstart Boise State type team could win round 1 of the playoffs against at top 5 opponent in a major upset running trick plays, but no way they have the horses to win two more games in two weeks against Top 5 opponents. Bama, Georgia and Clemson have the talent to get through that grind right now. Possibly Ohio State. LSU and Texas A&M might be close. I honestly can't think of anyone else who is remotely close, though. ....We're a long, long ways away...
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So you don't like the current system because it's always the same teams but you don't want to expand it because then another team may win?
 
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jackcrevol said:
it is, definitely. not like soccer but, glory days for baseball are gone.
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Baseball won't ever be the number one sport in America again, but it will always have a place. I've taught many people to appreciate it over the years. One thing you have to explain to people is that you don't need to watch every pitch - that's part of what makes baseball great. You put it on in the background, do lots of things - read, talk, work around the house, etc. And you tune in more closely when a rally starts or when a good hitter comes to the plate. It's much more social than other sports that way. But when the stakes are high, it is every bit as intense and exciting as any football game I've ever watched.
 
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vol2002 said:
I enjoy CFB don’t get me wrong. But I think the playoff era is starting to kill the excitement. Only three or four teams have the depth and talent to win in any given year, and the committee will find them and stick them in over teams that have achieved more on the field. Those same teams get all the good recruits in the offseason and then it’s repeat.

I’d rather pull my eyes out with a spoon than watch another Clemson-Bama playoff rematch. Yawn!
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I love college football and watch every game possible. But you're right about the playoffs ruining it. Recruits want to go to the playoffs so the best go to the teams with the best shot. Right now that is Clemson (easy), AL and GA (win SEC championship and go or possibly go anyway), OU (just beat Texas) and OSU (a good shot). I'd rather watch the bowl games. When people stop watching the playoffs they will try to change it, but those teams will be so stacked it will it will take a lot of recruiting cycles to overcome.
 
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