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Interesting story from Ainge about LSU stealing signals in the 2007 SEC Championship Game.

He said they had success with a certain call 3 times. They went to it a 4th time, but Ainge did not change the signal. LSU picked it up and quickly circulated it amongst the secondary. The DB backed off heavy to bait Ainge into the throw and broke hard in the ball, knowing what was coming.

Pick 6. LSU takes the lead in the 4th quarter, Tennessee loses.

Had that not happened... all else being equal...

Tennessee wins the SEC Championship
No way Fulmer is fired next season.
Kiffin never is hired... or bolts...
Which leads to no Dooley...

All from not changing a signal play call signal. Amazing

Thanks a whole pantload Ainge. :cray:
 
I heard they had to use instant replay cause they didn't realize he was eating 2 at a time and hadn't counted enough for him. Haha

I think they miscounted on purpose to put some suspense at the end of a competition that was obviously going to be dominated by the GOAT...

You know though... percentage-wise... I think he may be the greatest athlete of all time...

Like I don't know what 40 split I could run right now... Maybe a 5 flat or a hair under on a good day... I'm decent built and relatively muscular... I could put up quite a few 225 reps... I could jump a respectable 27" or some odd verticle... all those measurable drills I wouldn't smash like a Saquan Barkley... but I'm in pretty good shape and could put up some decent numbers...

I might be able to put down 10 hot dogs in 10 minutes... and I'd be WTF DID I JUST DO miserable after...

percentage wise vs the average man... Joey Chestnut is the greatest athlete in the world.

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6 days of no rain.... and the monsoon just hit.

I’m afraid those boys are going to be stuck in that cave. If they hadn’t made enough progress with 6 dry days, they are not going to see that relief again till October

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I read one of the Navy Seals died during this rescue. They may be there a while. :(
 
I am a huge Ali fan. Never missed him boxing when I was growing up.

My opinion of Tyson:
Cus was his General Neyland. Kept him focused and expected nothing short of Tyson’s very best.

After Cus passed away, Tyson went through the equivalent of kiffin/dooley/ butch trainers and managers: lots of flash with little substance (yes, I know that some good things happened under their watch, but nowhere near acceptable). Tyson needed a strong trainer/manager due to his background and cohort... he took the dooley/butch approach to training after Cus. It showed in his performance and all the trouble that he got into.

Would any of that have happened with Cus alive? Doubtful. Jmo :hi:

All the youngsters around here truly missed out on the experience of watching Ali and being entertained by him. And when I say entertained, I don't mean the fights in the ring, but the interviews, appearances, speeches....

When his career was over, I pretty much quit watching boxing. The entertainment factor totally disappeared and no one ever came close to filling the void he left behind. Great fighters followed such as Tyson but it paled in comparison to the spectacle Ali brought to the table.

At the time, he truly was bigger than life...maybe always.
 
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All the youngsters around here truly missed out on the experience of watching Ali and being entertained by him. And when I say entertained, I don't mean the fights in the ring, but the interviews, appearances, speeches....

When his career was over, I pretty much quit watching boxing. The entertainment factor totally disappeared and no one ever came close to filling the void he left behind. Great fighters followed such as Tyson but it paled in comparison to the spectacle Ali brought to the table.

At the time, he truly was bigger than life...maybe always.

He had to walk uphill both ways to those interviews, appearances, and speeches...

You could buy a coke for a nickle out of the ice box down the street. Everybody would gather around the family radio and listen to him clown Joe Frazier and George Foreman for hours...

Oh, the good ole days...

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He had to walk uphill both ways to those interviews, appearances, and speeches...

You could buy a coke for a nickle out of the ice box down the street. Everybody would gather around the family radio and listen to him clown Joe Frazier and George Foreman for hours...

Oh, the good ole days...

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I read one of the Navy Seals died during this rescue. They may be there a while. :(

I believe it was a retired Thai Seal who was volunteering. He was working overnight setting up extra oxygen tanks along the line on the route in when he passed out. Haven't seen anything confirming what caused it yet though. Maybe a medical condition or exhaustion or just a freak accident. I don't really know. Just speculating.
 
The great risk for bringing them out is panic. Divers with no experience can experience panic attacks when they first start training, even in a safe tank. Asking 11-16 year old boys, some of who may not even know how to swim, to use scuba gear to come out of that cave is an extremely dangerous proposition. One article said it is a 5-hr trip, and that is likely the time clocked by the veteran divers. Trying to lead 12 inexperienced and terrified teenagers out might even double, or triple, the time it takes.

As we all know, panic attacks can affect your breathing, which is very dangerous at depth, as you have to fight the natural urge to swim straight up to the surface, which if you are at any sort of depth risks the bends; but in a submerged cave in the dark, I can't even imagine. I am sure they are likely allowing the boys to practice in the chamber they are in, and hopefully there are shallow waters in there so they can get a sense of being underwater in the dark, and get very familiar with the equipment that will be their life support system in the way out. But if they decide to bring them out that way, it will be a daunting task for those veteran divers to keep those kids calm during that exfil.

Pitch black cave, crap visibility water I'm assuming since it's "flood/runoff" water, keep in contact with the guide rope so you won't get lost and run out of air, don't panic because you breathe faster and will run out of air before you get to a place to surface. Squeeze through places too tight to wear your tanks. Plus there's a pretty significant current in places. Also, somewhere I seen at some point they will have to use climbing gear as well. This is an extreme challenge for experienced technicians, but all of this with boys that can't swim, plus an adult.

This is after water has receded some I'm assuming.

[Youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiXrOUNrxKQ[/Youtube]
 
All the youngsters around here truly missed out on the experience of watching Ali and being entertained by him. And when I say entertained, I don't mean the fights in the ring, but the interviews, appearances, speeches....

When his career was over, I pretty much quit watching boxing. The entertainment factor totally disappeared and no one ever came close to filling the void he left behind. Great fighters followed such as Tyson but it paled in comparison to the spectacle Ali brought to the table.

At the time, he truly was bigger than life...maybe always.
They also missed out on watching him be a coward by refusing to serve his country while so many others went. He was suddenly a muslim and as we all know, muslims disavow violence.
 
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Where are they going to get 3.2km (~2 miles) of nylon tubes? Musk is brilliant, but also a bit crazy and a publicity hound. I really do hope they get them all out.

Everything you said is true but he also pulls off stuff many don't think is possible way faster than he should be able to. His innovative nature and experience from drilling underground with Boring Co can only help.
 
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Went scuba diving for the first time last year in Maui just off the beach and in about 20 ft of open, clear water. Sucked through my tank in about 20 minutes because of the initial anxiety. I got used to it after the first few minutes but that air doesn’t last long. I can’t imagine doing it in a dark cave knowing I had to be under for hours.
 
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Where are they going to get 3.2km (~2 miles) of nylon tubes? Musk is brilliant, but also a bit crazy and a publicity hound. I really do hope they get them all out.

This is from another article about how he could help:

The billionaire’s companies could assist by trying to pinpoint the boys’ precise location using Space Exploration Technologies Corp. or Boring Co. technology, pumping water or providing heavy-duty battery packs known as Tesla Inc. Powerwalls, a spokesman for Musk said earlier. It’s unclear whether Thai officials have accepted the offer.
 
Went scuba diving for the first time last year in Maui just off the beach and in about 20 ft of open, clear water. Sucked through my tank in about 20 minutes because of the initial anxiety. I got used to it after the first few minutes but that air doesn’t last long. I can’t imagine doing it in a dark cave knowing I had to be under for hours.

Same. Took an intro scuba trip in Punta Cana last year. We were about 45 feet down. I didn’t get 5’ under before I started panicking and had to go back up. We held onto a guide, had clear water, and a beautiful reef to swim around and it was still taxing on me. We were only down there about 30 minutes but it felt like hours. To breathe through a mask for what could be hours...in pitch black conditions...I can’t imagine.
 
I've been in a cave exactly one time in my life. I was a teenager and it was somewhere in Tennessee between Chattanooga and Nashville (it's been 25-30 years...that's really all I can remember at this point). We reached a point where we had to scale a wall that felt like it was mostly mud (our fingers could dig in to it). We climbed up 25-30 feet and came to an opening that was only small enough to get your trunk through it...we had to put our arms through first and pull ourselves up through it. Had we lost our grip, slipped, or not had the strength to pull ourselves through it, we would have fallen that 25-30 feet to a flat rock.

The others I was with loved it. I told them if I made it out alive I was going to kill all of them.

All of that to say: Heed Chuckie's advice...stay the hell out of caves!
 
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I've been in a cave exactly one time in my life. I was a teenager and it was somewhere in Tennessee. We reached a point where we had to scale a wall that felt like it was mostly mud (our fingers could dig in to it). We climbed up 25-30 feet and came to an opening that was only small enough to get your trunk through it...we had to put our arms through first and pull ourselves up through it. Had we lost our grip, slipped, or not had the strength to pull ourselves through it, we would have fallen that 25-30 feet to a flat rock.

The others I was with loved it. I told them if I made it out alive I was going to kill all of them.

All of that to say: Heed Chuckie's advice...stay the hell out of caves!

I explored caves on Iwo Jima. Our squadron in Japan were required so many night bounces on a runway but limited because of noise laws. We would go to Iwo Jima to get carrier qualed.

The tunnels and caves were used by the Japanese as you all know to fortify the island. One cave in particular stands out in my memory due to having to crawl with the ceiling raking my back for 30 minutes. Tight squeeze doesn’t do it justice. That and the island is an active volcano so we had warm/hot sulfur smelling air blowing on us. It was amazing to see equipment still in the caves used by the Japanese. The island was pretty much untouched. There were caves designated like a medical cave.

It was scary tight. And THAT was The last cave I ever explored. It was awful.
 
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I've been in a cave exactly one time in my life. I was a teenager and it was somewhere in Tennessee between Chattanooga and Nashville (it's been 25-30 years...that's really all I can remember at this point). We reached a point where we had to scale a wall that felt like it was mostly mud (our fingers could dig in to it). We climbed up 25-30 feet and came to an opening that was only small enough to get your trunk through it...we had to put our arms through first and pull ourselves up through it. Had we lost our grip, slipped, or not had the strength to pull ourselves through it, we would have fallen that 25-30 feet to a flat rock.

The others I was with loved it. I told them if I made it out alive I was going to kill all of them.

All of that to say: Heed Chuckie's advice...stay the hell out of caves!

Sounds like Racoon Mountain Caverns maybe. I've done those a few times and actually camped overnight in there as a kid. Had a blast.
 
So Pruitt usually only offers after seeing recruits in person at camps?

Butch wasn't like that at all iirc. Hopefully will benefit us knowing exactly what we are getting.
 
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