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Has nothing to do with defending him. I don't care about Butch Jones. But there is a position coach, a trainer, and a league spotter who look for those things. In no way did the article back then confirm that he was aware of it at the time, but you took it as truth.
There’s videos of him stumbling around looking like he has no idea where he is. That’s what I take as fact. If those guys are that incompetent that they can’t spot an obvious concussion then they all deserve to be out of a job
 
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Honestly, I make it a habit to tune out Swain most of the time.

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I have no information, but somehow, I expect there to be some news in the Thai cave situation today.

They found a new entrance, but they don't know yet if it dead ends. Also, it did not rain yesterday, so maybe flooding will subside enough to get further back.
 
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I have no information, but somehow, I expect there to be some news in the Thai cave situation today.

They found a new entrance, but they don't know yet if it dead ends. Also, it did not rain yesterday, so maybe flooding will subside enough to get further back.

I do so hope somehow they’re all ok.
 
From Nagi’s book:

“During the Butch Jones era, there were many players who chose to transfer out of the program for a variety of reasons, including expected playing time that didn’t come. Brett Kendrick was originally committed under Dooley but chose to stick to with the Vols. [after the Arkansas state game] Brett got a text from Jones with language that Brett wouldn’t repeat to his mom and told him that he is not SEC caliber and that his play wouldn’t cut it,” says Beth Kendrick. “He was very derogatory towards him. Brett graded out as the third-best offensive player overall. They awarded t-shirts to the top three offensive and defensive players after each game. Brett received that recognition and yet was benched the next week. It made no sense, except that Coach Jones had made promises to other players and their parents.” ...Jones would wait outside the position coaches’ room,” Beth Kendrick says. “When Brett would come out, he’d get in his face and say that he’d be so happy when Brett was gone. He was trying to run him off. Maybe he needed the scholarship. I didn’t know this was going on at the time. I’m proud of my son for fighting through it. He grew in character and learned how to deal with people. He loved his teammates. He is the kind of kid who would bend over backwards for you and do whatever the coach asked. He toughed it out and suffered through it all’.”

Here’s the thing. Neither were SEC caliber but that’s not Brett’s fault and if true, Butch should’ve had more class. I never believe hit pieces like this. Too convenient now that he’s gone. I prefer to let that dog die.
 
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Here’s the thing. Neither were SEC caliber but that’s not Brett’s fault and if true, Butch should’ve had more class. I never believe hit pieces like this. Too convenient now that he’s gone. I prefer to let that dog die.

To each his own, but I choose to believe every single negative word about that angry little purple faced voodoo doll. Glad he can torment Alabama now. 100% Barb’s dip tasted like ass, too.
 
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To each his own, but I choose to believe every single negative word about that angry little purple faced voodoo doll. Glad he can torment Alabama now. 100% Barb’s dip tasted like ass, too.

Hey now, don’t be dissin the dip. She made that with juicy Wampler’s and real Velveta cheese.
 
This doesn't surprise me. Every profession has these kind of "fake it 'til you make it" success stories.

Unless you're very lucky, though, there's eventually going to be a trial by fire that burns away the dead wood and reveals the truth. For Butch Jones, that fire burned a light shade of orange.

The more times goes on, the less I appreciate anything he did here. Should have fired him after the 16 season. Especially when it became known he was trying to get out of Dodge.
 
The more times goes on, the less I appreciate anything he did here. Should have fired him after the 16 season. Especially when it became known he was trying to get out of Dodge.

I stopped coming on here or reading anything about the team when he was still the coach after 16. I watched the games with as little invested as ever. Just didn't care. Until fulmer got hired. Now I'm all in again because the program is again for the first time in a decade.
 
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Here's the problem I have with Braveheart.

If you take all the slow, terrible parts out of Braveheart and make the fighting more believable you end up with Gladiator.
 
Here's the problem I have with Braveheart.

If you take all the slow, terrible parts out of Braveheart and make the fighting more believable you end up with Gladiator.

I’m not a fan of Gladiator because as you said, it followed the Braveheart theme too much.

Braveheart came first... it wins
 
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Before the internship position with Alabama, I'd really like to know how exactly Butch Jones got to where he did. I look at him and I don't see a guy who's good at anything besides recruiting. Not a good football coach, I think his football IQ is about as low as it can be at this level, probably sucked at football himself, etc. Could be one of the finest snake oil salesmen this side of the Mississip.

Classic example of the Peter Principle....rising to your incompetence level.
Decent MAC Coach....should have stayed at Cincy
 
From Nagi’s book:

“During the Butch Jones era, there were many players who chose to transfer out of the program for a variety of reasons, including expected playing time that didn’t come. Brett Kendrick was originally committed under Dooley but chose to stick to with the Vols. [after the Arkansas state game] Brett got a text from Jones with language that Brett wouldn’t repeat to his mom and told him that he is not SEC caliber and that his play wouldn’t cut it,” says Beth Kendrick. “He was very derogatory towards him. Brett graded out as the third-best offensive player overall. They awarded t-shirts to the top three offensive and defensive players after each game. Brett received that recognition and yet was benched the next week. It made no sense, except that Coach Jones had made promises to other players and their parents.” ...Jones would wait outside the position coaches’ room,” Beth Kendrick says. “When Brett would come out, he’d get in his face and say that he’d be so happy when Brett was gone. He was trying to run him off. Maybe he needed the scholarship. I didn’t know this was going on at the time. I’m proud of my son for fighting through it. He grew in character and learned how to deal with people. He loved his teammates. He is the kind of kid who would bend over backwards for you and do whatever the coach asked. He toughed it out and suffered through it all’.”

Take comfort Mrs. Kendrick. Only one on the team the last 5 years that wasn't SEC caliber was Butch. It is the head coach's job to motivate,cultivate and elevate. The only "ates" Butch could do were hyperventilate, exacerbate, excoriate , and masturbate . He was a real jackoff.
 
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I’m not a fan of Gladiator because as you said, it followed the Braveheart theme too much.

Braveheart came first... it wins

The patriot was the same movie as well but I enjoyed it. For me though 1 and 2 are Forrest gump and tombstone.
 
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