Recruiting Forum Football Talk IX

You realize that his actual WAR per games played is higher than his WAR per 162 games right?
WAR per game? WAR is only accumulated in actual games played. The “per 162” is the prorated number.

I hit 10 HR in 40 games.
I hit 40 HR prorated in a “per 162”.
 
Especially when Jimmy Ballgame was a better CF than Jones could ever dream of being
I’m not a huge Andruw Jones fan.
I’m not a Braves fan.

Andruw Jones in his prime is widely considered the greatest defensive CF in baseball history.

No one ever played shallower, and still got to the balls he did. Balls that Edmonds would lay out for and make spectacular catches on… Jones would just glide underneath.
 
loser in this arm battle, gets a giant ball of oil dropped on their head.
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i dunno about fielding, but he was a better all around player. imo. I can't believe Dale Muphy isn't in.

I recall AJ being a liability at the plate. Looking for home runs. Murphy was a hitter.
Dale Murphy & Don Mattingly suffered the same fate - injuries.

Great players, with great peaks. Didn’t have the sustained success required to accumulate the traditional top line stats.

That said, I hope there’s a place someday for both of them. They were both amazing ballplayers.
 
Neither Lou Gehrig or Ted Williams have the top line numbers as they stand.
Just like Mickey, they both present legendary “what ifs”.

Q: What if Ted Williams doesn’t lose his peak to WW2?
A: He’s probably the greatest of all time.

Q: What if Lou Gehrig doesn’t get sick and die?
A: He’s possibly the greatest of all time.

We have no way of estimating what Mickey could have been, we have no baseline - he was busted from the get go.

But we can make reasonable extrapolations for Gehrig & Williams. I’ve got them as 2 of the top 3 or 4 all time.
What if Roberto Clemente hadn’t died in a plane crash? For his time in the MLB, give me Clemente in RF if The Babe is your DH.
 

I thought for certain Mendoza was going down around the 5 when he got hit and did a 180. I'm gonna believe he was able to do that soley due to the S&C coaches.

I've also convinced myself that Owings is so good that we're gonna see extraordinary changes in all our players, 😂. Would be nuts if he somehow got Mac to pack on 25lbs of muscle in 8 months. Is that even possible without steroids? What would be a reasonable expectation for gains in 8mos on someone Mac's size?
 
Witten is one of the top 3-5 TE's ever in NFL..

I would say
Tony Gonzalez and Antonio Gates may have been better than Witten was.... Gronk was nothing without Brady .. Kelce is near the top also..

Going look good seeing another guy that played with that Star on his helmet entering the HOF...
There’s a guy named Dave Casper, raising his hand in the back.
 
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