Recruiting Forum Football Talk IX

[DD4ME]

I needed this one today badly. I pray it finds anyone else that does.

September 30, 2025: I am reminded of the old saying: When the going gets tough, the tough get going. Rise up out of the dead ashes of the past, stop feeling sorry for yourself, and seek God for wisdom to do the next thing. Do not lose heart, but establish yourself in hope and faith that He will lead you into the next phase of your existence. You are strong in the Lord and in the power of His might. Psalm 28:7 The Lord is my strength and my shield; my heart trusted in Him, and I am helped; therefore my heart greatly rejoices, and with my song I will praise Him.

 

[volfaninpa]

It's happened ONE time.... Big difference in dealing with College Players and Millionaire Big Leaguers...

Who was the manager who did it?

 

[LouderVol]

Doesn't feel like we have dominant DTs like we once did. I'm old. I was spoiled by Big John and Albert playing side by side.

I think you need to adjust your expectations if you expect us to have two of the best to ever play the position on our roster every year.

 

[BigSteve09]

Tyreek in for a very bad year.

Ruined knee. Year+ recovery. 31 years old.

Gonna lose a giant piece of his contract.

8 baby mothers.

Yyyyyyyikes

 

[Volsdeep4]

I hope after the bye week we finally unleash Boo and stop with the punishment. We need him full time at punt returner and starting at star. That hit he laid in the second quarter was a monster. If you really want McMurray on the field, then move boo to safety. But he is one of your best DBs and needs to be on the field.

Boo isn’t better right now. Talent wise yes, boo has more upside. He will give you 1-2 hard tackles a game. Boo also gives up more bust and is horrid in zone, right now.

 

[orangejuice]

Hobbs was a 5 star #4 DT on rivals/on3, and the #4 DT (#36 overall, 4 spots away from a 5 star there also). His composite was an overall 4 star due to the typically lack of effort from ESPN recruiting where he was a lowly #166 overall. Point being he was a very highly regarded DT as a recruit and definitely not a paper blue chip player.

I’m excited to see him play this year as i think we have sorely missed him so far this year.

 

[orangejuice]

Boo isn’t better right now. Talent wise yes, boo has more upside. He will give you 1-2 hard tackles a game. Boo also gives up more bust and is horrid in zone, right now.

Booo seems to have gotten so sold on this whole play both sides of the ball by Prime that he forgot he actually needs to play good on his primary side of the ball first.

 

[Volsdeep4]

The confidence booster that Sanders got with the last drive should help him push Perry for the starting spot.

We can only hope that sanders in at LT and puts Sham back at being 6th in rotation.

 

[jmacvols1]

watching paint dry

 

[knoxvol52]

Who was the manager who did it?

Dick Howser in 1980...

 

[SmyrnaATLVolisback]

Boo isn’t better right now. Talent wise yes, boo has more upside. He will give you 1-2 hard tackles a game. Boo also gives up more bust and is horrid in zone, right now.

Yet he graded as our best cb on Saturday with over a 90 grade. So literally everything you said is just your own feelings and is wrong.

 

[SmyrnaATLVolisback]

Booo seems to have gotten so sold on this whole play both sides of the ball by Prime that he forgot he actually needs to play good on his primary side of the ball first.

Does anyone actually watch film or people who do breakdowns? He was literally one of our best on Saturday and graded very highly. In fact, I was shocked at how decent our safety play actually was after watching some film guys break down their play. We have to stop with built in narratives and actually listen to facts and stats.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Only hit one of them

 

[OptimusPrimerib]

 

[therickbol]

So the original OL they wanted…

LT - Heard
LG - Moe
C - Sam
RG - Perry
RT - Sanders

Wonder if they move to that for Arkansas or just leave Moe at RG & plug Sanders in at RT with Perry as backup?

If Perry is healthy, he does not come out of the lineup. He has played much better than Sham.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

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*Not having our semi-annual coaching search thread is the worst part about us being good again. Not saying I don't love us being good, but they were a lot of fun. That sounds so sick but if you were here for Grudenmania, you know what I mean.


**I might go troll their boards, just to "scratch that itch" again. That post has some real potential.

MIT-Possum?

 

[Enki_Amenra]

No way that’s accurate. We have played 3 power 4 teams (one isn’t the same anymore due to QB injury), beat one 4-0 team on the road, and lost to the other one in OT at home. And you’re telling me we don’t even make the top 25?? Who has some of the teams even played that are on that list? My word.

That's the poll that gave UCF their title.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Only hit one of them

This isnt my regular 9-5, pal. I'm holding water for the moran @Glitch until his wife allows him phone access again.

VN did a surprisingly good job of not leaving things open ended.

IOW, was really hard.

 

[Outofmyvolcanmind]

Did some research and the criticism of Tim Banks is warranted I feel. I believe we are more talented than our defense is producing. We rank in the bottom half of the league in most defensive statistics. Specifically, the following concern me.

- Last in opponents TD's in red zone
- Among worst in opponents 3rd down conversion
- Among worst in opponents 4th down conversion
- Middle of pack in turnovers
- Bottom 3 in giving up explosive plays

And this is with the best pass rush in the league. We also generate the most tackles for losses. That should equate to better statistics in the 5 bullets above, not worse. Giving up big plays usually relates to discipline. The rest can be related to scheme. Let's see how Hobbs and McCoy change this, but we need to stop giving up big runs by vacating contain by DE's. And our safety's need to improve tremendously if we are going to improve against the big plays. If we are going to be a boom or bust defense, our turnovers need to be double what they are. We also need to buckle down in red zone. We cannot expect to win by allowing opponents to score a TD 80% of the time they cross our 20-yard line.

Statistically, this is the worst defense Heupel has had since 2021. We are better against the run this year than any year that isn't 2024, but against the pass, this is the worst D he has had. Luckily for us, this is the best offensive team CJH has had through 5 games. Our point differential is second to 2022.

 

[85SugarVol]

This throwback is hilarious every time it gets posted. Old heads remember.

Also, he was a real one and always leaned into the jokes when they got brought up.

He always handled it as well as can be done.

 

[csprig9]

Did some research and the criticism of Tim Banks is warranted I feel. I believe we are more talented than our defense is producing. We rank in the bottom half of the league in most defensive statistics. Specifically, the following concern me.

- Last in opponents TD's in red zone
- Among worst in opponents 3rd down conversion
- Among worst in opponents 4th down conversion
- Middle of pack in turnovers
- Bottom 3 in giving up explosive plays

And this is with the best pass rush in the league. We also generate the most tackles for losses. That should equate to better statistics in the 4 bullets above, not worse. Giving up big plays usually relates to discipline. The rest can be related to scheme. Let's see how Hobbs and McCoy change this, but we need to stop giving up big runs by vacating contain by DE's. And our safety's need to improve tremendously if we are going to improve against the big plays. If we are going to be a boom or bust defense, our turnovers need to be double what they are. We also need to buckle down in red zone. We cannot expect to win by allowing opponents to score a TD 80% of the time they cross our 20-yard line.

Safety talent and young LBs outside of number 7
Safeties are slow Getting deep allowing over the top plays

 

[Smokey123]

 

[Adam Sandler]

If Tony leaves to coach in MLB, everyone knows it's your fault, ya damn jinx.

Maybe we should sacrifice you as tribute to make sure it doesn’t happen.

 

[VolGee4]

Did some research and the criticism of Tim Banks is warranted I feel. I believe we are more talented than our defense is producing. We rank in the bottom half of the league in most defensive statistics. Specifically, the following concern me.

- Last in opponents TD's in red zone
- Among worst in opponents 3rd down conversion
- Among worst in opponents 4th down conversion
- Middle of pack in turnovers
- Bottom 3 in giving up explosive plays

And this is with the best pass rush in the league. We also generate the most tackles for losses. That should equate to better statistics in the 4 bullets above, not worse. Giving up big plays usually relates to discipline. The rest can be related to scheme. Let's see how Hobbs and McCoy change this, but we need to stop giving up big runs by vacating contain by DE's. And our safety's need to improve tremendously if we are going to improve against the big plays. If we are going to be a boom or bust defense, our turnovers need to be double what they are. We also need to buckle down in red zone. We cannot expect to win by allowing opponents to score a TD 80% of the time they cross our 20-yard line.

It certainly can get better. I would just like to know the total number of redzone trips by our opponents and how that compares to others.

We essentially gave MSU 3 trips in the redzone on turnovers. That’s a tall task. Our defense didn’t allow the TD in OT when it counted. Off the top of my head, our offense gave ETSU or UAB the ball on the 6 after a fumble. These things aren’t outlined in the stats.

 

[Playdo]