Recruiting Forum Football Talk IX

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#23,152
JCVol00 said:
70% chance of storms/rain for 1 and 2pm, if theres a weather delay in warmups, how will that effect things pregame? Will the team still run through the T?
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Danny White just had "anti-lightning shock" security system put up. You should be fine.

Idk, really. Maybe depends on how long the delay is for and how it works with TV timing.
 
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Volunteer_Kirby said:
Let's look a little closer...

Antonio Brown was ruled academically ineligible out of HS and supposedly had interest from big D1 schools like Michigan State, FSU & Clemson. His father was a football standout and played professionally, so he wasn't some unknown kid. That area in Miami is well know for producing some incredible NFL talent. Brown tried to enroll at several schools after HS, including Alcorn State, but couldn't qualify. He then settled at a prep school in NC and put up stupid numbers as a QB in 5 games. After prep, he received an offer from FIU - which was rescinded after an altercation with campus security. He was never technically on the team at FIU and I think word got around the he was a primadonna and a known head case. Brown then tried calling schools all around the country looking for walk-on opportunities. He got ahold of Butch who recruited him at WVU and later Zach Azazzani. Brown reached out to him (not the other way around) and he walked on at CMU. Was not offered a scholarship - he walked on. The notion that Butch found this gem in the rough with Brown is absurd.

The Kelce brothers were recruited by Brian Kelly.

Eric Fisher was undersized in high school and only switched to offensive line as a senior after his coach told him he wouldn’t play defensive end at the next level. He was all-state in Michigan, drew offers from Eastern Michigan and others, and started college as a tight end before adding 80 pounds and turning himself into the No. 1 overall pick. His rise had far more to do with his own work ethic than with Butch.

Derek Wolfe came from a tough background, was essentially adopted by his best friend’s parents (the Hoppel family), and was set on the path to Cincinnati because his best friend’s family more than Butch. I think one of the Hoppel's was a DT at Cincy prior to the arrival of B.K., but B.K. did coach him.

When you look closer, it’s clear Butch benefited from timing and circumstance more than talent evaluation or development. He rode Brian Kelly’s coattails to the Cincinnati job and was largely a fraud.

Even at Tennessee, that so-called legacy class was driven by peer recruiting, not coaching. Twitter was at its peak as a recruiting tool, and those players wanted to build something special on their own. The class probably comes together regardless of who the head coach was.

Butch was decent at selling himself to ADs. He was not some wizard at identifying talent.

Just going to leave this here to remind you all how moronic this man was. He thought this was a motivational tool and put it on full dislplay, on national telelvision so that we could become the butt of CFB jokes for years to come. I guarantee you players laughed at this man behind his back. And that victory cigar in the Bama locker room where the Bama guys had that "gotcha" moment with him. He was one of the biggest frauds in CFB and this is the hill I will die on.

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Oh and JJ Watt. I left him out.

Nobody said he was a wizard. He got some good talent at those schools for their level. And yes, Fisher was a great eval/projection, especially given the things you mentioned…different position, lack of size. He was a 2* recruit who became the #1 overall pick.

There are all kinds of recruiting stories about why a guy ended up at a certain school. Yes luck is always involved.

Butch did things well enough at a lower level to get a shot at a higher level. He wasn’t good enough for that higher level.

Not sure why you put that photo there. No one is saying Butch was a good coach. The trash can thing has nothing to do with this conversation. Neither does the cigar. You seem to be really triggered over any mention that he might have done anything good. He was a failure overall, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t, at some point, display some qualities as a coach. They weren’t nearly enough to succeed at Tennessee
 
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Devo182 said:
Great reflection of our success and excitement (oh and Bama's failure 🤣🤣)...but $89 is the cheapest ticket I see vs ETSU ...makes me want to puke. My family was all there in 2015 for the insanely exciting UGA comeback game and we paid $60 for decent tix. We're talking the biggest home game of the year.

I can't imagine taking a family of 4. Tix, parking, a few concessions, god bless we can stay with family and try to keep it below $500 to see an FCS opp 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

/yes this is an aside from the OP, moreso just hating how insane prices have become. Bama can have their quesadilla tix and garbage team (and fans apparently too, effing bandwagoners, we always knew it 😅🤣😍)
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Paid I believe $150 each for nosebleeds vs Florida 2016. I guess everyone’s just mad a decade of inflation has finally hit Tennessee ticket prices because we are good again.
 
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Big Orange#1 said:
Paid I believe $150 each for nosebleeds vs Florida 2016. I guess everyone’s just mad a decade of inflation has finally hit Tennessee ticket prices because we are good again.
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This post makes no sense. I'd expect to pay that for nosebleeds against a rival 10 years ago. ETSU tickets are more expensive the New Mexico St tickets. An FCS school (idc if it's the home opener) should never be more expensive than a G5 school
 
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Rishvol said:
This post makes no sense. I'd expect to pay that for nosebleeds against a rival 10 years ago. ETSU tickets are more expensive the New Mexico St tickets. An FCS school (idc if it's the home opener) should never be more expensive than a G5 school
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Just saying after a decade of inflation ticket prices are about 50% more expensive. And also the ticket prices are what people are willing to pay. Alabama tickets are $8 this Saturday because there is no demand with their fanbase doesn’t want to go to the game. Our psycho fanbase is rabid and obviously has more money to spend 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
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