Recruiting Forum Football Talk IX

[VolsDoc81TX]

I have 0 clue how many Spanish only UT fans we have, but damn if we ain't winning at that too. Trump should let ice know if they can sing Rocky Top they can stay.

Does anyone know where to buy that Vamos Vols hat? The Texas VFLs definitely need access to that line of apparel.

 

[NighthawkVol]

Y’all don’t count Weary as a WR? Will Brooks counted as a S and he was a walk on.

I was counting "recruited" scholarship WRs. I may be wrong, but I don't think Winton and Weary are on scholarship. But yeah, they would be 8 and 9, if it got that far.

But getting more into that depth conversation...

Truth is, for all those worried about lack of bodies, we've never used more than 4 or 5 in meaningful minutes. Some of the same fans who criticized the staff for not playing many WRs are now gnashing teeth over lack of WR depth.

2021: we pretty much exclusively stuck with Tillman, Jones, and Payton. They tried getting Calloway and Hyatt on the field in spots early in the season, but they weren't reliable, so we went with the 3 man rotation.

2022: Tillman, Hyatt, and McCoy were the 3. Then Tillman got hurt against Ohio and Keyton took his place. Squirrel actually rotated in some later in the year as a freshman, but not really because he was needed, but more because Tennessee was way ahead (Orange Bowl being the exception). Those 5 were the only WRs who got meaningful snaps.

2023: McCoy, Squirrel, and Keyton were the 3. Then McCoy got hurt in late September and Nimrod became the 3rd. No one else really played meaningful snaps that year. Webb got in some, but it wasn't during meaningful moments, so it was pretty much 4 who played meaningful snaps.

2024: Started out the season with McCoy, Squirrel, and Thornton, with Brazzell as the 4th. Nimrod rotated in some. McCoy, Squirrel, and Thornton all dealt with the injury bug throughout the year, and yet, we still didn't play anyone other than those 5 in meaningful minutes, with one exception...Matthews against Vandy. So 2024 was the year we needed to go furthest down the depth chart (due to numerous injuries) and that was to the 6th guy (Matthews who had passed Webb on the depth chart by then).

I think this year's group is much more talented than last year's, just inexperienced. Our big 3 will be Matthews, Staley, and Brazzell. If we have to go to a 4th, it will be Travis Smith, who is the most talented freshman WR we've had under Heupel. If a situation like 2024 materializes, and we have to go to a 5th, it's likely Rad Jackson (possibly Jefferson). And if that situation materializes, it's at the end of the year and the freshmen will be much more comfortable.

The gnashing of teeth over lack of WR depth is overblown. It's simply about the unknown. The unknown scares people, but the truth is, our WRs weren't good last year. Neither was Nico. I'd rather have unknowns with promise than known quantities that are mediocre.

 

[volbeast33]

Same thing in ‘98. I expected a better showing against Syracuse. If you said we would win it all after that, I wouldn’t have believed you.

Something to keep in mind if we come out flat. 1st game doesn’t define the season.

That Syracuse game was a pick em and they had Donovan Mcnabb as their qb. That was a tough way to break in a new qb.

 

[TN-POSSUM]

It did and I am one. I took it out because it sounded weird to me haha.

Nice. I thought that was you.



*for a while, I thought your old tagline was from a movie. It sounded ike a Spaceballs or Airplane movie line.

 

[VolsDoc81TX]

Check out the song

Tennessee
By the group called
The Creekers.

They are a mix of bluegrass and country. Sounds like they just came out of the holler.

 

[VolsDoc81TX]

These next two weeks are going to quite possibly be the longest most excruciating weeks since the same two weeks last year...
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Imagine how @SmokinBob and I feel. I am over a week behind

17-0

 

[walkenvol]

I was counting "recruited" scholarship WRs. I may be wrong, but I don't think Winton and Weary are on scholarship. But yeah, they would be 8 and 9, if it got that far.

But getting more into that depth conversation...

Truth is, for all those worried about lack of bodies, we've never used more than 4 or 5 in meaningful minutes. Some of the same fans who criticized the staff for not playing many WRs are now gnashing teeth over lack of WR depth.

2021: we pretty much exclusively stuck with Tillman, Jones, and Payton. They tried getting Calloway and Hyatt on the field in spots early in the season, but they weren't reliable, so we went with the 3 man rotation.

2022: Tillman, Hyatt, and McCoy were the 3. Then Tillman got hurt against Ohio and Keyton took his place. Squirrel actually rotated in some later in the year as a freshman, but not really because he was needed, but more because Tennessee was way ahead (Orange Bowl being the exception). Those 5 were the only WRs who got meaningful snaps.

2023: McCoy, Squirrel, and Keyton were the 3. Then McCoy got hurt in late September and Nimrod became the 3rd. No one else really played meaningful snaps that year. Webb got in some, but it wasn't during meaningful moments, so it was pretty 4 who played meaningful snaps.

2024: Started out the season with McCoy, Squirrel, and Thornton, with Brazzell as the 4th. Nimrod rotated in some. McCoy, Squirrel, and Thornton all dealt with the injury bug throughout the year, and yet, we still didn't play anyone other than those 4 in meaningful minutes, with one exception...Matthews against Vandy. So 2024 was the year we needed to go furthest down the depth chart (due to numerous injuries) and that was to the 5th guy (Matthews who had passed Webb on the depth chart by then).

I think this year's group is much more talented than last year's, just inexperienced. Our big 3 will be Matthews, Staley, and Brazzell. If we have to go to a 4th, it will be Travis Smith, who is the most talented freshman WR we've had under Heupel. If a situation like 2024 materializes, and we have to go to a 5th, it's likely Rad Jackson (possibly Jefferson). And if that situation materializes, it's at the end of the year and the freshmen will be much more comfortable.

The gnashing of teeth over lack of WR depth is overblown. It's simply about the unknown. The unknown scares people, but the truth is, our WRs weren't good last year. Neither was Nico. I'd rather have unknowns with promise than known quantities that are mediocre.

Like yourself, I’ve been expecting big things from Smith. I found it interesting on Big Orange Rewind that Hubbs thinks Jackson is the most likely freshman receiver to have an impact this season? The freshmen WR’s may end up better than any of us are expecting!

 

[walkenvol]

I was counting "recruited" scholarship WRs. I may be wrong, but I don't think Winton and Weary are on scholarship. But yeah, they would be 8 and 9, if it got that far.

But getting more into that depth conversation...

Truth is, for all those worried about lack of bodies, we've never used more than 4 or 5 in meaningful minutes. Some of the same fans who criticized the staff for not playing many WRs are now gnashing teeth over lack of WR depth.

2021: we pretty much exclusively stuck with Tillman, Jones, and Payton. They tried getting Calloway and Hyatt on the field in spots early in the season, but they weren't reliable, so we went with the 3 man rotation.

2022: Tillman, Hyatt, and McCoy were the 3. Then Tillman got hurt against Ohio and Keyton took his place. Squirrel actually rotated in some later in the year as a freshman, but not really because he was needed, but more because Tennessee was way ahead (Orange Bowl being the exception). Those 5 were the only WRs who got meaningful snaps.

2023: McCoy, Squirrel, and Keyton were the 3. Then McCoy got hurt in late September and Nimrod became the 3rd. No one else really played meaningful snaps that year. Webb got in some, but it wasn't during meaningful moments, so it was pretty 4 who played meaningful snaps.

2024: Started out the season with McCoy, Squirrel, and Thornton, with Brazzell as the 4th. Nimrod rotated in some. McCoy, Squirrel, and Thornton all dealt with the injury bug throughout the year, and yet, we still didn't play anyone other than those 4 in meaningful minutes, with one exception...Matthews against Vandy. So 2024 was the year we needed to go furthest down the depth chart (due to numerous injuries) and that was to the 5th guy (Matthews who had passed Webb on the depth chart by then).

I think this year's group is much more talented than last year's, just inexperienced. Our big 3 will be Matthews, Staley, and Brazzell. If we have to go to a 4th, it will be Travis Smith, who is the most talented freshman WR we've had under Heupel. If a situation like 2024 materializes, and we have to go to a 5th, it's likely Rad Jackson (possibly Jefferson). And if that situation materializes, it's at the end of the year and the freshmen will be much more comfortable.

The gnashing of teeth over lack of WR depth is overblown. It's simply about the unknown. The unknown scares people, but the truth is, our WRs weren't good last year. Neither was Nico. I'd rather have unknowns with promise than known quantities that are mediocre.

Has the new rule kicked in expanding scholarships to 105 and eliminating all non scholarship positions? If so, nobody’s a walk on now?

 

[Jackcrevol]

Check out the song

Tennessee
By the group called
The Creekers.

They are a mix of bluegrass and country. Sounds like they just came out of the holler.

Dude they're from Hazard, KY. @Ulysees E. McGill can attest. There's a cracker barrel
there, and plenty of patrons.

 

[Jackcrevol]

If any of you morans like absolutely beautiful places, and amazing music...

Home - Blue Highway Fest

bluehighwayfest.com

Most amazing compilation of talented musicians you've never heard of. Or have.

Dan Tyminski, Rhonda Vincent, Ed Snodderly...

 

[benholt06]

Has the new rule kicked in expanding scholarships to 105 and eliminating all non scholarship positions? If so, nobody’s a walk on now?

I think guys with walk on status at time rule went into place can keep it until they graduate or otherwise move on. I’m not certain about that tho.

 

[Adam Sandler]

This is part of the ad appearing at the bottom of my page.

No, I haven't been looking at porn.

Holy shnikes

 

[triadvolfan]

 

[rikberry31]

And yet somehow, by mere magic, has the world's 4th largest GDP. Just passed Japan a couple years ago.

Just because a bunch of stupid people live there and are willing to spend stupid money so they can surf and defecate on the beach isn't validation. I have kin there, they are retarded and deluded. And they now want to invade my peace. So yeah it it ain't cool there anymore, they fricked up perfect weather and a nice place to live.

 

[Brillovol]

 

[RiseToTheTop]

I'm laughing because both morons think they can beat us. At the end of the day, you're still Vanderbilt. Know your role and shut your mouth!!!

Heupel has beaten these guys by a score of 185-67 the last 4 yrs

This time of the yr before anyone has kicked off is like their super bowl.

 

[mrMet]

Rock go to your doc or an ER. Don’t play with those brother

I second this @rocktopper16 as someone that has dealt with similar issues before

 

[franklinpence]

Pray for me today fellas. Had a major headache this morning right behind my right eye and have general overall feeling of not being okay.

Go to the doctor.

 

[WesTnVol]

 

[rikberry31]

As of 2024. The last fiscal year to see. Even if they fell to...say, 10th...that's still insane lol. Just a single state. Insanely productive.

As for corporate companies, I have no doubt. They'll flee over and over to the lowest common denominators. Once BFE, USA is deemed too costly, then they'll go to China, only to realize everyone left there 20 years ago to find cheaper labor markets in SE Asia, India, Africa.

Nothing would ever surprise me about those folks.

News Flash: California sucks that's why so many of them are invading my space. Kill 'em kill 'em all.

 

[rikberry31]

Just passed Japan in data released this year actually. No steps back. Cali’s economy is growing faster than the 3 largest world economies - US, China, & Germany.

Also has the largest share of manufacturing and agricultural production in US.

If it is so good why do I have so many California morons around me now?

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Lol! They think they will win IN NEYLAND?? Good luck. And back to back AT BAMA? What are they smoking?

Smoking the pavia

 

[DD4ME]

Lol

 

[TN-POSSUM]

Just because a bunch of stupid people live there and are willing to spend stupid money so they can surf and defecate on the beach isn't validation. I have kin there, they are retarded and deluded. And they now want to invade my peace. So yeah it it ain't cool there anymore, they fricked up perfect weather and a nice place to live.

News Flash: California sucks that's why so many of them are invading my space. Kill 'em kill 'em all.

If it is so good why do I have so many California morons around me now?

PREACH!!!

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Dude they're from Hazard, KY. @Ulysees E. McGill can attest. There's a cracker barrel
there, and plenty of patrons.

No CB in Hazard..