Recruiting Forum Football Talk IV

[RikidyBones]

That was the top of my head people. Sheesh. No mercy.

 

[TideWarrior]

That was the top of my head people. Sheesh. No mercy.

I was only helping out and had the link from a discussion on another board a few days ago.:hi:

 

[BruinVol]

Sounds like EA agrees with my guess that JayG might have been overwhelmed by jones demanding work schedule. Heck of a stand EA is making against a former player and in favor of CBJ!

 

[AV_12]

Sounds like EA agrees with my guess that JayG might have been overwhelmed by jones demanding work schedule. Heck of a stand EA is making against a former player and in favor of CBJ!

The money wasn't a problem, and could have been fixed though.

They are on Jay pretty hard for up and leaving

 

[JFizzle]

I hate to say it but UT just has some kind of stink on it right now. Players and former players aren't willing to come because I believe they understand we have bigger issues up top in the AD and we won't be good until those issues are resolved. When you have one of the lowest paid staffs in the SEC you are gonna get what you pay for. I hope Butch is the answer and does well but I am in now way optimistic about the next three years.

 

[wU-Tang Vol]

I hate to say it but UT just has some kind of stink on it right now. Players and former players aren't willing to come because I believe they understand we have bigger issues up top in the AD and we won't be good until those issues are resolved. When you have one of the lowest paid staffs in the SEC you are gonna get what you pay for. I hope Butch is the answer and does well but I am in now way optimistic about the next three years.

Why not be somewhat optimistic? I don't see it getting any worse lol

 

[tim]

The money wasn't a problem, and could have been fixed though.

They are on Jay pretty hard for up and leaving

He got a raise and his job got easier. Sounds like something I'd do.

 

[vol2013]

Why not be somewhat optimistic? I don't see it getting any worse lol

Per ESPN, as Jay Graham was walking out the door he informed Hart that CBJ pulled a George O'leary and lied on his resume. He will be terminated effective immediately and Hart will begin the coaching search from square 1 again.
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[nicksjuzunk]

Per ESPN, as Jay Graham was walking out the door he informed Hart that CBJ pulled a George O'leary and lied on his resume. He will be terminated effective immediately and Hart will begin the coaching search from square 1 again.
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Too early in the morning... Not funny

 

[AV_12]

He got a raise and his job got easier. Sounds like something I'd do.

Ainge said it was wasn't for much more money, and he is going to be the recruiting coordinator.

We matched the offer.

 

[Tux]

There is noway that scouts won't question his mental ability to run an offense. We'd get to the line last year and Bray would look over to Chaney to makethe checks that you would expect an nfl QB to make. Ipm not going to say he can't do these thongs because I'm not 100% convinced that Chaney wasn't just a micromanager, but there is certainly an air of uncertainty about the topic.
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That is how Chaney wanted it. In fact, a lot of OCs do that now,at the collegiate level. That was discussed in some of the post practice interviews last season.

 

[Tux]

Ainge said it was wasn't for much more money, and he is going to be the recruiting coordinator.

We matched the offer.

I don't fault Graham one iota. He made a career/business decision. The RC title meant a lot to him and not retaining it at UT hurt his pride. The RC title carries some weight when looking for advancement or leverage for a raise.

 

[tim]

I don't fault Graham one iota. He made a career/business decision. The RC title meant a lot to him and not retaining it at UT hurt his pride. The RC title carries some weight when looking for advancement or leverage for a raise.

You mean obtaining. Retaining makes it sound like he had it but lost it.

 

[Ericvol2096]

Per ESPN, as Jay Graham was walking out the door he informed Hart that CBJ pulled a George O'leary and lied on his resume. He will be terminated effective immediately and Hart will begin the coaching search from square 1 again.
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Why do this?

 

[jave36]

That is how Chaney wanted it. In fact, a lot of OCs do that now,at the collegiate level. That was discussed in some of the post practice interviews last season.

It was also said that he hadn't shown he could take the reigns, and that was part of why Chaney wanted it that way. The whole "putting up huge numbers" argument is so short sided. Plenty of record setting college QBs were not good NFL QBs, and they didn't have the elite supporting cast Bray had.

 

[Tux]

It was also said that he hadn't shown he could take the reigns, and that was part of why Chaney wanted it that way. The whole "putting up huge numbers" argument is so short sided. Plenty of record setting college QBs were not good NFL QBs, and they didn't have the elite supporting cast Bray had.

Give last years team and average defense and the fans that blast Bray would be salaaming nim.

 

[jave36]

Give last years team and average defense and the fans that blast Bray would be salaaming nim.

I'm not blasting him, I just think the concerns over his mental game are legit. No one has a better arm, and he's an elite college QB. Just not sold on his ability to be elite in the NFL.

 

[UTMark]

I'm not blasting him, I just think the concerns over his mental game are legit. No one has a better arm, and he's an elite college QB. Just not sold on his ability to be elite in the NFL.

I agree. IIRC, Worley audibled in the Vandy game in places Bray couldn't. I think that's a good illustration of Chaney's confidence in Bray to make changes at the line of scrimmage.

 

[OCIVol]

Oci would you give a breakdown of the candidates for this opening and their fair market value for what pay it might take to hire them and keep them here????

It wasn't about the money IMO. Graham was scheduled to make $260K this year. He got a $35K raise when CBJ got here.

 

[BruinVol]

It wasn't about the money IMO. Graham was scheduled to make $260K this year. He got a $35K raise when CBJ got here.

Lol. Multiple reports of him feeling out of place on the staff have been stated. The money thing is a clear reflection of where he was considered to fit in the pecking order. I stated when the salaries came out that azzani's salary was a slap in his face and all you had was ridicule for my thoughts. Clearly your expert knowledge in all of your fair market value talk of this situation was completely wrong!

 

[NMVol]

Lol. Multiple reports of him feeling out of place on the staff have been stated. The money thing is a clear reflection of where he was considered to fit in the pecking order. I stated when the salaries came out that azzani's salary was a slap in his face and all you had was ridicule for my thoughts. Clearly your expert knowledge in all of your fair market value talk of this situation was completely wrong!

Jones pushed his chips in then that his system would break the SEC mold. After this recruiting season, he may have begun to wonder. Will be interesting.

 

[wU-Tang Vol]

Lol. Multiple reports of him feeling out of place on the staff have been stated. The money thing is a clear reflection of where he was considered to fit in the pecking order. I stated when the salaries came out that azzani's salary was a slap in his face and all you had was ridicule for my thoughts. Clearly your expert knowledge in all of your fair market value talk of this situation was completely wrong!

 

[UTMark]

Lol. Multiple reports of him feeling out of place on the staff have been stated. The money thing is a clear reflection of where he was considered to fit in the pecking order. I stated when the salaries came out that azzani's salary was a slap in his face and all you had was ridicule for my thoughts. Clearly your expert knowledge in all of your fair market value talk of this situation was completely wrong!

I've already apologized for his Bruin but consider this: Jay got a whopping $35k for the RC position(which we matched). He is in the exact same position as Azzani now at FSU and he's still clearly making much less.

Fair market value. Textbook definition.

 

[tim]

Fair market value? For what? Jabo?

 

[UTMark]

Jones pushed his chips in then that his system would break the SEC mold. After this recruiting season, he may have begun to wonder. Will be interesting.

His system is the same as plenty if other SEC teams over the last few years. When he says his system is "infallible" I don't think he's speaking of x's and o's.