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ChattaTNVol said:
Brian Jean-Mary

I was very excited when we landed Henry To’o To’o in the 2019 signing class and even more excited when I saw his athleticism in the fall camp videos that August. Here’s the thing though, after Daniel Bituli left and Henry had to take over the QB duties for the defense we ended up with the worst defense that we’ve had in at least the past 12 years. How does that happen? I mean the QB is supposed to provide some leadership right? Make everyone on his side of the ball better? smh.

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In all fairness to Henry, Pruitt did run off his linebacker coach and figured he could get by with Brian Niedermeyer handling the job. I think Pruitt probably planned to help Brian out but he was already coaching some of the DBs, supposedly. Then he fires his DL coach the 2nd game into the season and now we’re down to 3 assistant coaches on the defensive side or maybe not even that from a qualification standpoint. Pruitt is the ultimate, if you want a job done right or 5 jobs, you do it yourself. What a cluster****. jmo.

I don’t want to be too hard on Henry because the truth is if anyone would have listened to me after the Georgia State debacle we would be maybe 2 years ahead of where we are right now. But no, Fulmer will help out behind the scenes. We can’t afford for Pruitt to fail. smh. (This paragraph is just me being a smart ass) lol

Can anyone really blame Henry for considering a better development opportunity elsewhere? I mean he has his own life and career ambitions and we completely and royally screwed him over. I think he would be justified in feeling that way, if he does. jmo.

So now we have 2 new linebacker coaches to rebuild our room and on behalf of our beloved university regain the respect, trust, and confidence of the young men who have elected to stay on board with us, but, given the nature of the ILB position and it’s criticality to the whole of the defense, I think it’s Jean-Mary who is the man of the hour for this crisis moment. jmo.

I’m still digging into Brian’s career history and I still have some questions, like why did he interview with Urban Meyer and the Jags after only one year at UM. Did he just not like it up there? I’ve lived in Ann Arbor. I liked it. Well, for 15 months. I guess he and I have about the same tenure there. I suspect that the Jags didn’t want to spend a half-million dollars or whatever to buy out his UM contract. No problem with us here at Tennessee, we have FU money. lol

So here is what the folks up north had to say about Brian’s departure:



Clearly Brian is a top recruiter but I'm also interested in his coaching prowess. So far I've got that while on Strong's staff at Louisville, coaching linebackers, the Cardinals had the #1 defense in the nation their last year there. I don't figure you can do that without good linebacker play. jmo.
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While all true, at least we reduced DN according to you
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UpstateVol613 said:
Might have to grab a drink with KU fans sometime.

Long out as Kansas AD days after Miles ouster
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It brings me great joy when universities/people get in trouble for covering up Title IX issues.

Long said he thoroughly vetted Miles so maybe he (Long) is truly innocent and everyone lied to him but other than that I love it.

Just stop covering this sh*t up. It’s that simple. Not only is it stupid but it also makes everyone involved look like a complete douche of a person.

Really really hope LSU looks like poop after this. Deserved.
 
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bignewt said:
chik fil a is mcdonalds with a valet and a christian mystique.
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Nashvegas31 said:
I don’t blame Henry T personally. He came to play under a well known defensive staff that had a track record of putting kids in NFL with Pruitt/Sherrer. Then it gets stuck with Neids last yr and has a down year that exposed his weaknesses. He has potential to go Pro after this year so he can’t afford to risk another off year that makes it the norm instead of the exception. We don’t know what to expect from our defensive staff so can’t expect him to trust that he would be ok sticking around when he has a safe bet with no question marks begging him to come there.

As for Crouch, I like the kids personality but he is not a 5 star defensive player. If he isn’t playing running back then he is an average player. Good vs straight ahead run. Bad sideline to sideline and vs pass. He is stiff. Makes good plays at times but nothing spectacular. Banks was better and should have had those snaps but I’m sure Pruitt staff trying to keep recruiting promises to Crouch. Banks while raw can be special and makes game changing plays at position. I am interested to see Beasley get more chances. In very limited work he showed some signs of playmaking ability so would like to see if there is anything there. Willis probably will be better than Crouch anyway.
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Yeah... so I blame him, so...
 
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From the cool story files:

So Josh Heupel’s dad was a high school football coach. Josh grew up as a kid on his dad’s practice field so he already knew terms and aspects of the game at a very young age. When Josh was 7 years old he was riding home in the car with his dad, coming home from a particularly tough loss for his dad’s team. Josh pointed out to his father that the other team was in radar defense the whole game and had been leaving the flats open all night but his dad’s team only threw to the flats two times over the course of the game. On the Jim Rome show in October 2018 Josh confirmed the story and said he was surprised he had survived the ride home that night. Think about it. At 7 years old Josh Heupel already knew more about football than Jeremy Pruitt does today. jmo.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
My sense is HB is the guy too but maybe for the added reason is I think he's a pretty accurate passer or at least he was in HS. I'm under the impression you can't really teach accuracy to a QB. Either they have it or they don't. jmo.

Hooker has a pretty productive ground game so I don't know which way CJH will go but they've said multiple times that the offense hinges on the QB and in particular the QB being able to throw the ball at a high level. We want QBs that can throw all over the field.

So pro football focus ranked returning QBs for 2021. Gabriel was 4th best returning QB in the nation in that exercise. PFF also ranked top 30 transfer QB's. Hooker was at #18. The evaluations by the PFF analysts are below:

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Love reading that about Gabriel/Hype's offense: "full of simplistic reads". Total 180 from Chaney's 5 second plays and 500 page playbook.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Big believer in Beasley. I'm not sure he's ever been given a fair shake at any position they've shifted him to in the Pruitt era. His speed flashes in the LB group the most, I'm not sure he is fast enough to make as much of an impact as a secondary guy but we also don't know since he seemed to just be shifted around constantly with previous staff.

The thing with Henry T that he really needs to look at long and hard is, is he willing to be at Bama for 2 years, because if he can't clearly earn the starting job he won't see the field enough to improve his draft stock.
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I’d love to have Henry T back, but I agree with your assessment. He didn’t always “pop” the way I expected him to - seemed a half step slow at times. Extremely good but perhaps not elite? I’m not a great talent judge though and he had miserable coaching last year, so there’s that. ....And with our luck, he’d transform into a superhuman sideline-to-sideline wunderkind that racks up 25 tackles in Bama’s annual romp of Vols next fall...
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
From the cool story files:

So Josh Heupel’s dad was a high school football coach. Josh grew up as a kid on his dad’s practice field so he already knew terms and aspects of the game at a very young age. When Josh was 7 years old he was riding home in the car with his dad, coming home from a particularly tough loss for his dad’s team. Josh pointed out to his father that the other team was in radar defense the whole game and had been leaving the flats open all night but his dad’s team only threw to the flats two times over the course of the game. On the Jim Rome show in October 2018 Josh confirmed the story and said he was surprised he had survived the ride home that night. Think about it. At 7 years old Josh Heupel already knew more about football than Jeremy Pruitt does today. jmo.
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Or most of us here, but we aren't likely to ever admit it. Lol
 
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MarcoVol said:
It brings me great joy when universities/people get in trouble for covering up Title IX issues.

Long said he thoroughly vetted Miles so maybe he (Long) is truly innocent and everyone lied to him but other than that I love it.

Just stop covering this sh*t up. It’s that simple. Not only is it stupid but it also makes everyone involved look like a complete douche of a person.

Really really hope LSU looks like poop after this. Deserved.
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Alas pinning your hopes on karma catching up with LSU is a losing game. Will Wade says hold my beer.
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
I don’t blame Henry T personally. He came to play under a well known defensive staff that had a track record of putting kids in NFL with Pruitt/Sherrer. Then it gets stuck with Neids last yr and has a down year that exposed his weaknesses. He has potential to go Pro after this year so he can’t afford to risk another off year that makes it the norm instead of the exception. We don’t know what to expect from our defensive staff so can’t expect him to trust that he would be ok sticking around when he has a safe bet with no question marks begging him to come there.

As for Crouch, I like the kids personality but he is not a 5 star defensive player. If he isn’t playing running back then he is an average player. Good vs straight ahead run. Bad sideline to sideline and vs pass. He is stiff. Makes good plays at times but nothing spectacular. Banks was better and should have had those snaps but I’m sure Pruitt staff trying to keep recruiting promises to Crouch. Banks while raw can be special and makes game changing plays at position. I am interested to see Beasley get more chances. In very limited work he showed some signs of playmaking ability so would like to see if there is anything there. Willis probably will be better than Crouch anyway.
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So you think it’s cool that Henry Ts dad just came out and said he should have went to Bama? Is that Henry’s fault? No. But he could have said something to defend himself.

Also, you said he doesn’t know about the defensive staff right? Well why not give them a chance? I guess he doesn’t want to. That’s fine. Henry T is old enough to make his own decisions. He can kick rocks.
 
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