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Weezer said:
I won't believe it until it's officially announced. Even then, I'll be like "Good one, DW. Now who did we really hire?"
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He spoke positively about UCF during the intro PC. He’s a high character guy by every measure. Taking their coach now is a killer to a program. Which is one of the many reasons I sincerely doubt he screws them over and does it.
 
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Geaux_Vols said:
Understandably, I should clarify somethings.

Scott Frost was at UCF for two seasons and his recruiting classes were not significantly better than Heupel's, Heupel's were better, in fact. The year before Frost the average was .8355. No, he's not setting the recruiting world on fire, but he's also in the same yard with Miami, Florida, Florida State, and FIU. Its a crowded yard. BUT, he does more with less...
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As has been noted, his offenses have been top 6 nationally all three years since he became HC at UCF and 14th nationally while OC at Mizzou. He went 22-4 his first two years (with 4 classes of essentially the same caliber of players, Frost's classes weren't carrying those teams) and then 6-4 in a year where the state of florida was a covid hot spot. when they played tulane this year several of their starters were out.

If he's the guy, he's one very good DC hire away from being potentially very good in the SEC. His offenses will excel, and he has HC experience. He's the quintessential up-and-comer future star. I understand the frustration--i really do-- but 8-4 should be the floor the way the schedule is set up, especially if we're hanging up 450 yards a game.

i urge you to give him a chance if he's the guy. he's walking into a dumpster fire with sanctions looming and, like DW, is apparently willing to take it on. I think this could end up pretty good.
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Great post. Let’s ride
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Heupel's Offenses are no joke...I will say that about the dude.

OU co-OC/QBs coach:
2011 - 39.5 ppg
2012 - 38.2 ppg
2013 - 32.8 ppg
2014 - 36.4 ppg

Utah State OC:
2015 - 29.0 ppg

Mizzou OC:
2016 - 31.4 ppg
2017 - 37.5 ppg

UCF HC:
2018 - 43.2 ppg
2019 - 43.4 ppg
2020 - 42.2 ppg
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Yea we all should agree that his offenses are legit.
 
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InstrumentalVol said:
Exactly. His two biggest knocks by the UCF fanbase is he doesn't recruit in literally the most fertile state in the country, and he doesn't bother to develop his players. Wow we are absolutely screwed for 4 years AGAIN
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How do you score 42-43 points a game over three years (top 2, 2 and 5 out of 130 teams) and not "develop" players that were not highly ranked? That sounds like pretty good development to me 🤷‍♂️ Maybe on defense? I could understand that criticism. With a really good defense they probably only lose 2-3 games the last three years..

He will have to recruit better, and put together a great defensive staff.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
Volzown, no clue what to make of this
"Everyone is freaking over something they don’t know to be true. Why? If it is true, why can’t he get the job done? He is very knowledgeable. He had a good offense and he know what it takes to win. I’d trust White on hiring, period"
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I thought he claimed he knew who we were hiring
 
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DW: 'I'm going to leak the Heupel hire to Austin Price so he can break the news.'

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DW and DP: *Watching AP run with it*
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