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"There’s no way to know if they contracted it at Lawrence Central. But families are left to mourn."
They could have easily been one of umpteen billion people who listened to rhetoric, or, selfishly chose to put others at risk by not distancing. We have no way of knowing.

Doesnt minimize the loss families feel. Happens too often. I recall NJ family who had a family gathering, 5 relatives died. I couldnt imagine.
 
Car accidents are a 35-40,000 a year..every freaking year occurrence...and even worse is the 80,000 alcohol related yearly death number..

The issue is accepted risk... and the honest question..why the hypocrisy on this? The faster we get to herd immunity to Covid-19 the better for society, dragging that out over eighteen months to two years by shutting the world down is going to cause a Great Depression, which will lead to wars, and God only knows how many other deaths.That is a dispassionate hard fact.

I don't like that anymore than you do, but I also know that pure fear is already going to cause a lot of folks to alter their behavior. At this point service industry SBOs should be given every freakin chance to make it without losing everything that they have worked for.
Man, maybe try not to take such a hardened, pessimistic view of the situation? I dunno. It's a **** sandwich, yeah. I always try to envision the worst case scenario, in essence, what would I have done in that situation? Imagine being 18 and plucked away from new bride & child, and thrown not only into the worst, shittiest conditions of a World War, but against the worsr enemy on the worst island, with toughest fighting...Iwo Jima. You thought that was bad, how bout Okinawa?

Its been about 100 years since a large outbreak. Honestly, we were prolly due. Kids, including myself are soft. This should serve as a reminder. You think its bad?

I coulsnt imagine having to fight in the Pacific, like my Grandad did, and yours, or Newts. THAT would be miserable.
 
Man, maybe try not to take such a hardened, pessimistic view of the situation? I dunno. It's a **** sandwich, yeah. I always try to envision the worst case scenario, in essence, what would I have done in that situation? Imagine being 18 and plucked away from new bride & child, and thrown not only into the worst, shittiest conditions of a World War, but against the worsr enemy on the worst island, with toughest fighting...Iwo Jima. You thought that was bad, how bout Okinawa?

Its been about 100 years since a large outbreak. Honestly, we were prolly due. Kids, including myself are soft. This should serve as a reminder. You think its bad?

I coulsnt imagine having to fight in the Pacific, like my Grandad did, and yours, or Newts. THAT would be miserable.
My dad fought in Korea and Vietnam. Saw hell so Ulysses can have a nice TV but yeah we got it pretty good these days.
 
Car accidents are a 35-40,000 a year..every freaking year occurrence...and even worse is the 80,000 alcohol related yearly death number..

The issue is accepted risk... and the honest question..why the hypocrisy on this? The faster we get to herd immunity to Covid-19 the better for society, dragging that out over eighteen months to two years by shutting the world down is going to cause a Great Depression, which will lead to wars, and God only knows how many other deaths.That is a dispassionate hard fact.

I don't like that anymore than you do, but I also know that pure fear is already going to cause a lot of folks to alter their behavior. At this point service industry SBOs should be given every freakin chance to make it without losing everything that they have worked for.

We also spend ton of money on research into those things. Regulations exist for them. Mandatory safety regulations on cars. Mandatory seat belt laws. Air bags, crash avoidance systems, driver education courses, drivers license tests. Alcohol awareness programs. Treatment programs, education program, mitigation programs. Research. Learning from that whole prohibition experiment.

We do a lot for everything that kills people. We're all advocating for what we think is right. And opinions aren't likely to change over a message board. But we all want this thing over as soon as possible and with the least damage.
 
So if you've been exposed and are asymptomatic, can you get infected again and again? Does the virus lay dormant in your system until.it is triggered by something else? It's kind of like we are pissing in the wind.

The last I read on that topic, it was unclear. But the cases that seemed to disappear and came back were extremely rare. It was unclear if it was just some kind of testing error or something worse.

There are other worries about long-term damage to all sorts of body functions. Kidneys, brain, heart, obviously lungs. I saw a report about foot lesions the other day. But it's way too early to know if these are coincidental or causal.

This thing is so new, we don't have good data on anything, but we're collecting preliminary data on a ton of stuff. Research just takes time.
 
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The most correct answer is to take as much as required to raise blood levels to at least 50ng/ml, preferably 60. But since testing isn’t likely an option, you can swag. If you are outdoors a lot in GA with skin exposed and no sun block, you may not need any at all. Since most of us don’t spend that much time outside, most need to, particularly in the cooler months.

Youngsters convert D more efficiently, so I wouldn’t go over 2k. 1k may be enough, but I really don’t have experience with kids. I have taken 5k-10k for years. I was taking 5k, and my level was 59ng/ml. Decent, by not as high as I would like right now, so I went back to 10k. You are a bit younger and are outdoors more so 5k is probably plenty for you. As we age, we don’t make It as efficiently, so more is necessary the older we get. Nursing home patients are known to be highly deficient.

I doubt solving this virus is as simple as taking D and C, but I am still amazed that every single group that is having the worst trouble from it is known to be deficient, and both D and C are known to have significant roles in immune function. There is simply too much evidence to ignore...and it’s cheap and easy.

Agree with this. Which is why it is time to get everybody outside into the sunlight. Example - here in Sevier County they need to open the GSMNP. They can still control when they open the lodging. But day trips into the park will only help by get the sunlight and exercise outside. The rangers can monitor the social distancing in the picnic grounds and such.

Eat the right foods to supplement the needs, get the exercise. Young and older in particular should take supplements. Make sure you are getting enough of the right kind of zinc, especially older folks like myself. Zinc citrate seems to work well.

Apparently we had our first death in the county yesterday. Like so many of the others - multiple pre-existing medical conditions.
 
Hey everyone. Been lurking for years and rarely post. This is my is my 4th and hope it's worthwhile. I'm in the medical field and thought I would post at least something about the whole COVID thing. My last post was about blood clots and whoever might be interested can take a look if they care. If you don't care, that's fine too.

Anyway, there's a virus going around. The name of the virus is "Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2)". If you get it and develop problems, the problems are referred to as "Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)." Some people have been completely minimizing this virus and other people have been overblowing it. If you catch the virus, the likelihood of dying is, on average, anywhere from the single digits to somewhere below 1%. The likelihood of dying if you catch the virus depends on a lot of other variables as well, including age, underlying chronic lung problems, high blood pressure, immunsuppression, and all sorts of other things.

An additional but important issue with this virus is that people can have the virus, shed the virus ( ie so other people can "catch it") even if said person feels well, healthy, and has no symptoms. For those who acquire the virus and don't die, some people will have permanent complications.

All the evidence that we have at this point suggests with little or no or even late behavioral modification, this virus can result in more more deaths than would typically be expected for the general population. A number of posters have noted that if a patient tests positive for SARS-CoV-2 and dies of a heart attack, the death is attributed to COVID even though that person likely would have died independent of SARS-CoV-19 infection. That is true, but I don't think it would explain fully what we have actually been seeing over the last few months. Many cities and hospitals in Western Europe and the US have been having many more patients with severe respiratory complications and failure right now than would typically be expected. In Northern Italy, many hospitals have been overwhelmed with the number of patients in respiratory failure, such that there have not been enough ventilators or even medical staff available to manage some of the patients. Similar things have been noted in other locations, including the US.

All of this suggests that the SARS-CoV-2 virus is more virulent than other infections we typically see around this time of year or in general.

The major questions is how do we minimize mortality and morbidity due to the virus while also minimizing all the complications and issues related to our interventions to minimize the virus' morbidity and mortality. Theoretically, if everyone were to have no human contact for one month, the virus should die out and we wouldn't have to be concerned about the virus. On the other end of the spectrum, we could not alter our behavior at all. If we were to do that all the available evidence suggests that many people would catch virus in short succession, resulting in overwhelming of the medical system so that a number of people would die just because the medical system is overwhelmed (not enough vents and all.)

So, where do we find the balance between these two extremes? One where no one has any human contact for a month and another where people go about their lives with no change. If we were to all isolate for a month, as noted, presumably the virus would cease to be an issue. However, this would lead to a number of other complications related to economic fallout and psychological problems and all sorts of other issues. If we did nothing and lived our lives as normal, all the evidence that we have suggests that many more people would die, partly related to so many people being infected at once and overwhelming the medical infrastructure. If we were to find a medium between these extremes it would not be ideal either.

Ultimately, there are no good answers. Anyone who claims they have an ideal or perfect solution to this whole COVID-19 mess is either lying or doesn't have a good grasp of the situation. No matter which path is chosen, some group of people are going to be screwed over.

Post more often please....and what an epic profile pic!
 
Beaches are open for a few hours a day and for recreation only. No sunbathing, no coolers, no chairs. How is that any different from walking in a park?

How TF are they going to tell me I can go swimming but can't bring a towel. What idiot thought that up?

So if my kids want to swim and I want to get out and sit on a towel and have a drink are they going to arrest me or give me a ticket.

It would be real F'ing simple to hire some people to just patrol and break up groups or move people that are too close. And it would provide some jobs. The level of stupidity in government is astounding but FL takes stupidity to new heights.
 
It's easy for everybody to opine that the shutdown was not necessary because there's no data to show what it would have been like. We only know how it is with the restrictions. There are so many differences between Covid and the flu. I don't think that there was an over reaction. I think it was erring on the side of caution, which was the right thing to do. I think it is time to let people start back to work but keep the distancing rules in place for now. No bars, no dining in, no school, no large public gatherings.

I have heard Tennessee may cancel all fall sports for secondary schools. Basically, don’t expect any sports for kids anytime soon. It may actually be 2021. Seems like everyone just love to make decisions earlier than they have to be done. Hopefully, they will wait and decide these things with as much real information as possible.
 
Was really looking forward to watching Harrison Bailey play in the spring game today. Hate that our whole team and especially freshman missed out on a spring of practice. JG was probably going to start anyways but can’t help but feel all the other QBs missing spring assures that. Hopefully he plays well this fall. Would like to see HB at least play in his 4 games and redshirt unless he just takes over in fall camp and gets the nod.
 
Beaches are open for a few hours a day and for recreation only. No sunbathing, no coolers, no chairs. How is that any different from walking in a park?
It really baffles me how the government can shutdown beaches. Beaches are pretty much the edge of the world. Governments should have no power there. But also, who gathers close together (outside of spring breakers) on beaches anyway? Seems like a fine place to leave open during times like these.
 
We are now getting a clear picture of the recruiting consequences of being nationally irrelevant for high school kids’ entire lifetimes.

Remember when we couldn’t field a punt under Dooley? That’s these kids’ childhood memories of UT football.

Maybe but that isn’t stopping UNC
 
It really baffles me how the government can shutdown beaches. Beaches are pretty much the edge of the world. Governments should have no power there. But also, who gathers close together (outside of spring breakers) on beaches anyway? Seems like a fine place to leave open during times like these.

St John's County (St. Augustine) we're the last beaches in FL to close. The only reason they did so is because idiots from other countries flooded our beaches, were packed in on top of each other and partying in groups. Up until that point the St. Johns locals we're being smart and staying spread out.

There's miles and miles of beaches and the lazy out of towners didn't want to walk their lazy asses too far from the steps leading down, the piers or their parking spots.

Yeah, I'm bitter that I wasn't able to get my kids out of the house to their favorite thing to do.
 
Well that’s a whole different situation, but i will day this... i think unwanted children have far less of a chance at a happy and safe life.
So you take their chance at life away and kill them??? Don’t give them a chance to rise above not being wanted and being a productive citizen in this country? Don’t give them a chance to be put up for adoption and parents who have a hard time having kids on their own, being able to adopt them and give them a great home? Just kill them…what a comeback answer.
 
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