Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[Ulysees E. McGill]

@Ulysees E. McGill despite my long diatribe, no offense at all meant. I know your concerns come from a good place and I really hope that you and your's make it through this safe and get many financial blessings. Much respect to you, friend.

No offense at all...I love the optimism, but I believe that if we don’t restart the economy soon, the long term effects will be disastrous to huge number of people.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

tax churches, legalize gambling... economic problem solved.

Tax churches? My church has nothing to pay. We can barely afford to hold service. We still help people in need when we can.

 

[gainesvol82]

I love the optimism, but if hundreds of thousands of SBOs go under..that will create a massive drag on retail. Those are the key, and I have seen nothing besides loans mentioned, and that is not going to cut it for businesses that have been shuttered or barely operating for two-three months. Those people have nothing to fall back on.

In 2007, me and my father and younger brother had a wholesale commercial bid flooring company in T-Bay that we had all invested everything we had in for three years, when the economy collapsed that year, a developer screwed us out of $250,000 and we all lost everything.

I have never recovered from that.

Sorry to hear that. I hope that people applying for these loans/grants read the fine print and make sure they don't have to pay back a dime. I have a feeling that more relief packages are on the way.

Neither side wants to be seen as denying people help during an election year. There will always be people who fall through the cracks but I think a lot of people will be taken care of.

The keys are going to be testing and vaccines to make people feel safe to go spend money ag a in. One aspect in all this that I hate is that society is going to be even more reliant on online purchasing and we will continue to distance from person to person interaction....kinda like social media has been doing for years.

 

[Wadetime]

if you take this whole thing serious From the start and do the whole social distance and work from home when applicable then it never gets there. That’s the problem. To me their trying to water down The death rate in order to make up for their lack of preparation

Don't you dare question the response. What a nasty post... Perfect testing, perfect response, perfect transcript

 

[GojiraVol17]

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

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We will be the most annoying MF fan base in college football. After the last decade we damn well deserve it

 

[SLICKYINC]

Don't you dare question the response. What a nasty post... Perfect testing, perfect response, perfect transcript

Of the 154 countries that are battling CV-19. Which ones have the best response?

 

[benholt06]

Of the 154 countries that are battling CV-19. Which ones have the best response?

Germany did pretty well

 

[Butch Dooley]

Hey everyone. Been lurking for years and rarely post. This is my is my 4th and hope it's worthwhile. I'm in the medical field and thought I would post at least something about the whole COVID thing. My last post was about blood clots and whoever might be interested can take a look if they care. If you don't care, that's fine too.

Anyway, there's a virus going around. The name of the virus is "Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2)". If you get it and develop problems, the problems are referred to as "Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)." Some people have been completely minimizing this virus and other people have been overblowing it. If you catch the virus, the likelihood of dying is, on average, anywhere from the single digits to somewhere below 1%. The likelihood of dying if you catch the virus depends on a lot of other variables as well, including age, underlying chronic lung problems, high blood pressure, immunsuppression, and all sorts of other things.

An additional but important issue with this virus is that people can have the virus, shed the virus ( ie so other people can "catch it") even if said person feels well, healthy, and has no symptoms. For those who acquire the virus and don't die, some people will have permanent complications.

All the evidence that we have at this point suggests with little or no or even late behavioral modification, this virus can result in more more deaths than would typically be expected for the general population. A number of posters have noted that if a patient tests positive for SARS-CoV-2 and dies of a heart attack, the death is attributed to COVID even though that person likely would have died independent of SARS-CoV-19 infection. That is true, but I don't think it would explain fully what we have actually been seeing over the last few months. Many cities and hospitals in Western Europe and the US have been having many more patients with severe respiratory complications and failure right now than would typically be expected. In Northern Italy, many hospitals have been overwhelmed with the number of patients in respiratory failure, such that there have not been enough ventilators or even medical staff available to manage some of the patients. Similar things have been noted in other locations, including the US.

All of this suggests that the SARS-CoV-2 virus is more virulent than other infections we typically see around this time of year or in general.

The major questions is how do we minimize mortality and morbidity due to the virus while also minimizing all the complications and issues related to our interventions to minimize the virus' morbidity and mortality. Theoretically, if everyone were to have no human contact for one month, the virus should die out and we wouldn't have to be concerned about the virus. On the other end of the spectrum, we could not alter our behavior at all. If we were to do that all the available evidence suggests that many people would catch virus in short succession, resulting in overwhelming of the medical system so that a number of people would die just because the medical system is overwhelmed (not enough vents and all.)

So, where do we find the balance between these two extremes? One where no one has any human contact for a month and another where people go about their lives with no change. If we were to all isolate for a month, as noted, presumably the virus would cease to be an issue. However, this would lead to a number of other complications related to economic fallout and psychological problems and all sorts of other issues. If we did nothing and lived our lives as normal, all the evidence that we have suggests that many more people would die, partly related to so many people being infected at once and overwhelming the medical infrastructure. If we were to find a medium between these extremes it would not be ideal either.

Ultimately, there are no good answers. Anyone who claims they have an ideal or perfect solution to this whole COVID-19 mess is either lying or doesn't have a good grasp of the situation. No matter which path is chosen, some group of people are going to be screwed over.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

I know there is some number that stay asymptomatic. I just wish articles would follow up so we had a better idea where that number might sit.

Last I checked it took 2 to 11.5 days for that vast majority to exhibit symptoms after exposure. Few cases were outside that range. The median was 5-ish.

Here we go (I've Been Diagnosed With the New Coronavirus (COVID-19). What Should I Expect?):

Symptoms could appear as soon as two days after exposure to as long as 14 days later, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). A new study led by researchers at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health provides a median time of about five days. That is why the 14-day quarantine period is used by the CDC for people with likely exposure to the new coronavirus.

So if you've been exposed and are asymptomatic, can you get infected again and again? Does the virus lay dormant in your system until.it is triggered by something else? It's kind of like we are pissing in the wind.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

JT 2018
59.5
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7.4
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JG 2018
62.2
1907
7.8
12/3


Sooooooo waste a spot on a QB that we already have?

We've seen JGs ceiling

 

[Smokeytom]

 

[VolsDoc81TX]

Can we not try pro football leagues that are not named NFL anymore? DOES NOT WORK



Report: XFL owes Bob Stoops more than $1M, per bankruptcy filing

Was actually fun being a part of the XFL. They suck after repeatedly stating money for three seasons and now declaring bankruptcy to avoid paying players, coaches and medical staff (they didn’t pay me for the last 2 games I covered, before the games were shut down...)
Bastiges.

Still had a blast getting to meet and interact with Coach Stoops, best part by far for me was getting to meet Micah Abernathy. Great guy.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Because it is a long way from identifying a vaccine(which they still haven't even done) to mass producing one for 6 billion plus people. And you can damn sure bet that poor schmucks like me will be the last to get one.


It typically takes 18 months to get one done.

I read it as an absolute.

Yes, agreed on 12, likely 18 months.

I hope and pray Pitt is the closest.

Ergo poor schmucks like you and me can afford them.

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

Everybody needs to take a lot of vitamins D and C...I have had too many smart people saying that to not listen.

I ordered vitamins last week after the conversation on here with @SSVol. My wife and I are taking 5000 IU Vit D a day and a multi-vitamin. I got my daughter a Vit D chewy with 1000IU to take. I’m outside all day with my job so that’s extra Vit D, and my wife and daughter get outside a lot in the day, too, as long as weather is nice. Hey @SSVol, is the 1000IU enough for my 9 year old, or should she be taking a couple of those?

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

No vaccine is coming...and at this point no miracle treatment is happening. We have to open it up.

Are you not paying attention to the promising treatment called Resmedevir? @volatil, care to elaborate on this?

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Are you not paying attention to the promising treatment called Resmedevir? @volatil, care to elaborate on this?

No..I read something about it all getting snatched up by Japan about a month ago, but I have seen nothing since.

 

[Pepe]

Jamal Lewis was willing to put in the work to come back from a severe knee injury, Chuck Webb was not.

 

[butchna]

Jamal Lewis was willing to put in the work to come back from a severe knee injury, Chuck Webb was not.

Yeah, but the technology and techniques repairing knees was vastly superior for only a relative few years separation. Webb also had redshirted his freshman season and was in his third year. Would have been interesting if declaring for the draft had been an option for Lewis.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Yeah, but the technology and techniques repairing knees was vastly superior for only a relative few years of separation

How do people still not know that? When Chuck got hurt, everybody knew he was done, just like every other player in any sport that had that level of damage in those days.

The advances in sports medicine in those few years were almost miraculous.

 

[franklinpence]

It is evil...

I am almost 52, overweight, and in poor health with 15% of my left lung and 5% of my right permanently scarred...and I am still out everyday doing my job.

I don't wanna die, but I don't want to see millions of peoples livelihoods destroyed, and hundreds of thousands of already struggling families forced into poverty just to save my ass.

Time to change the profile pic McGill.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Time to change the profile pic McGill.

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Lol...I have actually said that on here a lot, I am actually more like Big Dan than Everett.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Beaches are open for a few hours a day and for recreation only. No sunbathing, no coolers, no chairs. How is that any different from walking in a park?

Facebook false gnus, move along, these aren't the droids you're looking for.

 

[VolGee4]

Coronavirus deaths followed Indiana high school basketball sectional

It’s not the flu.

 

[drvenner]

It's easy for everybody to opine that the shutdown was not necessary because there's no data to show what it would have been like. We only know how it is with the restrictions. There are so many differences between Covid and the flu. I don't think that there was an over reaction. I think it was erring on the side of caution, which was the right thing to do. I think it is time to let people start back to work but keep the distancing rules in place for now. No bars, no dining in, no school, no large public gatherings.