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BigOrange15 said:
Right, I know how the mechanism works but far as I can tell, eating things like rice doesn't have a deleterious effect carbs wise like eating a bunch of cake would lol and I feel like trash when Ive tried. Is it significantly better iyo to cut them out totally vs reasonable intake based on activity level of something, again, like rice?
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I believe in carbs in moderation as part of a balanced healthy nutrition plan and exercise regimen. Was only answering the question.

That being said I’ve tried keto before and there is such a thing as “keto flu” while the body adjusts. And I for sure dropped some unwanted lbs. It’s not for me personally as a long term meal plan but I deploy it strategically and I think it could be the long term answer for many.
 
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MarcoVol said:
I believe in carbs in moderation as part of a balanced healthy nutrition plan and exercise regimen. Was only answering the question.

That being said I’ve tried keto before and there is such a thing as “keto flu” while the body adjusts. And I for sure dropped some unwanted lbs. It’s not for me personally as a long term meal plan but I deploy it strategically and I think it could be the long term answer for many.
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I've lost over 100 pounds since my highest weight at age 35 (61 now). The first 75 was full keto. While it works for me, I am not a fan of full keto at this point. There are important neurotransmitters that only get released in the presence of carbs. You need enough of a carb deficit to release glucagon, but leaning so hard into that side doesn't allow the natural cycling of glucagon and insulin. Eating moderate carbs for one meal a day works really well. Keeps the fat metabolism working, but also allows the insulin to cycle in. You really benefit from both.

That is what I did to carb cycle, but there are many other approaches that work just as well. They key is moderation and cycling.

I have bad genetics for carbs though, so I find peptides to be an easier, more consistent, and more effective way to fix the underlying problem. Morning weigh-in was 158, FBG was 75 at last labs, and A1C was 5.2. At one point I was 260 and pre-diabetic.
 
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SSVol said:
To add to this...

I've lost over 100 pounds since my highest weight at age 35 (61 now). The first 75 was full keto. While it works for me, I am not a fan of full keto at this point. There are important neurotransmitters that only get released in the presence of carbs. You need enough of a carb deficit to release glucagon, but leaning so hard into that side doesn't allow the natural cycling of glucagon and insulin. Eating moderate carbs for one meal a day works really well. Keeps the fat metabolism working, but also allows the insulin to cycle in. You really benefit from both.

That is what I did to carb cycle, but there are many other approaches that work just as well. They key is moderation and cycling.

I have bad genetics for carbs though, so I find peptides to be an easier, more consistent, and more effective way to fix the underlying problem. Morning weigh-in was 158, FBG was 75 at last labs, and A1C was 5.2. At one point I was 260 and pre-diabetic.
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Can you elaborate on this bit about peptides?
 
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SSVol said:
To add to this...

I've lost over 100 pounds since my highest weight at age 35 (61 now). The first 75 was full keto. While it works for me, I am not a fan of full keto at this point. There are important neurotransmitters that only get released in the presence of carbs. You need enough of a carb deficit to release glucagon, but leaning so hard into that side doesn't allow the natural cycling of glucagon and insulin. Eating moderate carbs for one meal a day works really well. Keeps the fat metabolism working, but also allows the insulin to cycle in. You really benefit from both.

That is what I did to carb cycle, but there are many other approaches that work just as well. They key is moderation and cycling.

I have bad genetics for carbs though, so I find peptides to be an easier, more consistent, and more effective way to fix the underlying problem. Morning weigh-in was 158, FBG was 75 at last labs, and A1C was 5.2. At one point I was 260 and pre-diabetic.
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Wife is all about peptieds now. It seems to be 'the thing' now. I assume there is no 'health concerns' with them in that they are natural?
 
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Freak said:
Can you elaborate on this bit about peptides?
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The legal approach? Prescription GLP1 or GLP1/GIP agonists...Ozempic, Mounjaro, etc.

The biohacker approach? In addition to the well known names, there are others that aren't FDA approved (yet, but already in Stage 3 trials) that allow for stacking/dose variations/etc. You gotta be willing to color outside the lines though and there are absolutely risks. Key is finding sources that use certified labs and who batch test for purity.

DIY allows for splitting doses (bi-weekly works great) and titrating doses for better maintenance. Even the lowest dose of Mounjaro caused enough side effects that I couldn't stay on it. Lower doses, twice a week, is entirely tolerable and effective for maintenance once you are at your goal.

I have a well-established family history of Alzheimer's and I have at least a least one genetic marker for it. Blood sugar and insulin are primary drivers of cognitive decline, so I am highly motivated to manage this any way I can. So far, so good.
 
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screenthis said:
Wife is all about peptieds now. It seems to be 'the thing' now. I assume there is no 'health concerns' with them in that they are natural?
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Natural? No. Concerns? Absolutely. You are always taking a risk with anything non-food (and many that are food). For me it is balancing the risk from one thing to delay or eliminate the certainty of another.
 
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SSVol said:
Natural? No. Concerns? Absolutely. You are always taking a risk with anything non-food (and many that are food). For me it is balancing the risk from one thing to delay or eliminate the certainty of another.
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Naturally meaning the body produces them. I havne't researched peptieds at all and avoid putting almost anything in to my body (other than some suppliments). But I'm hearing more and more about 'peptides'. Sounds like we have some of the same risks for alzheimers btw. I'm focuing on exercise, good sleep, and taking a few supplements (magnesium and citicoline).
 
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screenthis said:
Naturally meaning the body produces them. I havne't researched peptieds at all and avoid putting almost anything in to my body (other than some suppliments). But I'm hearing more and more about 'peptides'. Sounds like we have some of the same risks for alzheimers btw. I'm focuing on exercise, good sleep, and taking a few supplements (magnesium and citicoline).
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I am Apo-E 3/4. Means I have a lifetime risk of 20%-30% compared to the general US population at 9%. Apo-E 4/4 increases that risk to 50%-90%. If you haven't checked your Apo-E status, you should.

If you are Apo-E 3/4 or 4/4, then your enemies are blood glucose, insulin, and homocysteine. Methylating vitamins like Methyl B12 or Methyl Folate are great for reducing homocysteine. GLP1 and GIP peptides are great for reducing BG, insulin, and weight (which also has a huge effect on BG and insulin).
 
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