Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[UpstateVol613]

Looks like @Jackcrevol got his wish.

 

[Orangeburst]

Robots are mimicking humans..

 

[rikberry31]

It's not just opposing coaches saying it. I've heard many football analysts/commentators ask the same question, and they've reported it as a concern among NFL GMs. We don't run a typical pro-style offense that teaches route trees.

People pedal a lot of crap on the recruiting trail. It makes for a good Reader's Digest story to say that Tennessee's receivers can't translate to the NFL. NFL personnel are primarily interested in measurables and makeup. To NFL officials the combine, the interviews, and tests are like the ACT to colleges. It doesn't really matter what your school's curriculum was if you got a 35 on the ACT. If you're a receiver and you run 4.3 in the forty and aren't a complete basketcase, the NFL will come calling.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Looks like @Jackcrevol got his wish.

Good lord, I cant think of two people I like less than the NCAA.

 

[Jackcrevol]

I'll show you a porthole

twss

 

[Batman1948]

if only our WR coach was in charge of rotating players, and his roster. Perhaps getting off ones duff to recruit may help.

When you play fast, rotating players is not an option

 

[rikberry31]

This year will be telling as well. Does the offensive system change and adapt? I really hope we don't suffer through some of the scoreless quarters that occured last year. Painful and seemed obvious that change was needed. That didn't come however with a shakeup in coaches. Go ahead, throw over the middle more. Involve the Tight Ends more. Perhaps don't throw to the flat 80% of the time. Maybe?

Heup has really had three different offenses adapted to 3 different qbs in four years. It was only with Hooker (since he's been at Tennessee) that he was able to run pretty much what he wanted wide open. He was restricted with Milton and Nico.

 

[knoxvol52]

I'll show you a porthole

 

[Lloyd_Christmas]

Looks like @Jackcrevol got his wish.

Yay...a government intervention in college sports.

 

[SmyrnaATLVolisback]

A.P. has been pretty consistent that the reason they are struggling to nab a WR is that they are telling portal WR's that they would be transferring to UT as depth pieces and would be paid as such. These dudes want starter positions and starter money and we just aren't going down that route atm.

This is pretty dumb IMO. You always tell recruits and transfers they are coming to compete to start. Not you see depth and sit the bench.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

Did we see anything from Hyatt, Tillman, Velus, Keyton etc making these type statements?

Yes, it is throwing the team under the bus. He could have answered much more diplomatically and without saying “go back and watch my Oregon film if you want to see me running routes”

A VFL doesn’t say things to damage the brand

Maybe he was just unable to understand the offense. Sometimes this happens and the players can not grasp what they are supposed to do. Successful receivers are able to read the defenses which will allow the QB to deliver the ball to him. Sometimes are just smarter than others.

 

[SKV84]

Damn....just saw where the lead singer of 3 Doors Down announced he has Stage 4 cancer and is gonna have to cancel their summer tour. Never got super into them but they were always a solid band and got to see them live once and they put on a great show.

 

[rikberry31]

Those statements were made about them when they were drafted. As far as I know, they were never interviewed and asked that question. If they were, I wouldn't have been offended by them being truthful.

You can hide your head in the sand all you want, but the fact is, that narrative is out there, and it's not just coming from opposing coaches. NFL personnel are saying it.

Anyone who has been semi-aware the past ten years, has seen how many popular narratives, lies, hoaxes, conventional wisdoms, predictions, etc. have we seen blow up? Florida will be underwater in less than a decade ( said twenty years ago), we can stop illegal immigration, Maryland Dad, Heuple's offense won't work in the SEC, Michigan was just really good at football in 2023, Rick Barnes can't recruit, Piltdown Man, the Loch Ness monster, Joe Biden is fine, etc.
NFL talent evaluator (Not) "Yeah he's fast a lightning, hands like glue, and the catch radius of an orangutan but he's from Tennessee so we should pass on him." I don't think so.

 

[SagginVawls]

Competition should always be open. Playing time should be EARNED, not guaranteed.

Completely agree. Simply adding that negative recruiting, while prevalent, is most likely not the reason for our lack of portal haul at WR this offseason.

Furthermore, I find it strange how open C.H. has been about open QB competition this Summer contrasting A.P's info regarding how the WR room is handling playing time. Seems odd, to say the least.

 

[85SugarVol]

Yeah as great as Lebron is, I doubt he has the same longevity had he played in that era. The game was just much more physical back then.

I dislike LeBron as the much guy - I can’t stand him.

But he is a unique talent. Had he played in the 80’s/90’s NBA he would have tailored his game for that era - and he would have been awesome then too.

He would not have put up the numbers he did in this era.
He would not have been able to play as long as he did in this era.

But he still would have been one of the best on the court.

 

[MemphisVol3]

I dislike LeBron as the much guy - I can’t stand him.

But he is a unique talent. Had he played in the 80’s/90’s NBA he would have tailored his game for that era - and he would have been awesome then too.

He would not have put up the numbers he did in this era.
He would not have been able to play as long as he did in this era.

But he still would have been one of the best on the court.

Oh I'm not saying he wouldn't be good. I think he would have been very good still. But he wouldn't be putting up the same numbers in a much more physical league for that long of a duration. That's why some joke that Jordan would average 50 or 60 in today's league lol.

 

[VOL608]

Good lord, I cant think of two people I like less than the NCAA.

Go live in California

 

[vols 30]

When D.K. Metcalf finds out Mason Rudolph is his starting QB in Pittsburgh.View attachment 740528

I'll take Mason over Aaron Rodgers

 

[Jackcrevol]

Go live in California

Why move they're moving here.

We'll all just be one big happy family,

 

[LaagerVol]

Those statements were made about them when they were drafted. As far as I know, they were never interviewed and asked that question. If they were, I wouldn't have been offended by them being truthful.

You can hide your head in the sand all you want, but the fact is, that narrative is out there, and it's not just coming from opposing coaches. NFL personnel are saying it.

I don’t think you have to be Einstein to know the narrative is out there.

Just because someone says something about my family, even if it’s true, Im not gonna perpetuate and exacerbate it to the detriment of my family.

 

[knoxvol52]

@knoxvol52

I would bet that Pickens will be on his best behavior. Contract year makes them all walk the chalk line..

 

[Leeleesteeth]

It's not just opposing coaches saying it. I've heard many football analysts/commentators ask the same question, and they've reported it as a concern among NFL GMs. We don't run a typical pro-style offense that teaches route trees.

Let them be concerned. Heupel's job is to win COLLEGE football games. NFL's job is to evaluate talent and develop that talent within their system. We were highly successful for several years running the Wing-T. Didn't translate to college but our job was to win HIGH SCHOOL football games. The good players still were recruited (even WRs and TEs) and if they went to a good college program they were developed within the context of that system. NFL people griped for years about college QBs in the gun not knowing how to take the 3/5/7 step drops. They've since changed their tune. If Dante Thornton can play, he'll play. I'd be more concerned about him being made of glass than his route tree.

 

[Leeleesteeth]

People pedal a lot of crap on the recruiting trail. It makes for a good Reader's Digest story to say that Tennessee's receivers can't translate to the NFL. NFL personnel are primarily interested in measurables and makeup. To NFL officials the combine, the interviews, and tests are like the ACT to colleges. It doesn't really matter what your school's curriculum was if you got a 35 on the ACT. If you're a receiver and you run 4.3 in the forty and aren't a complete basketcase, the NFL will come calling.

What was Damarious Thomas' route tree coming out of Georgia Tech? The whole premise is stupid.

 

[Devo182]

Phil Ivey is the GOAT.

Don't think it's particularly close either. Cash, tournament, omaha, nlhe, dealers choice...he just crushes souls.

 

[SugarCC]

Why move they're moving here.

We'll all just be one big happy family,

Happy??