Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[UTProf]

He had recovered from everything I read. He even made an appearance on Sunday. I hated waking up to this news! As a practicing Catholic, I appreciated what he was trying to do in terms of bring the Church into the 21st Century and not stay rooted in the 1100s.

He did a remarkable job making things right after scandal, cleaning house at the Vatican, and dragging the church towards relevance in a modern world. It was never a job that would be done in a single lifetime even with all the power of the papacy but it was still enormous progress and I believe he laid the groundwork for positive changes to continue. God bless him.

 

[Jackcrevol]

That was a very constrained JB, basically playing straight.

Nacho Libre was great. He was good in Jumanji. But yah, he usually becomes far too much, much too quickly.

twss

 

[Carp]

NCAA can't police it. It'll be a lawsuit just like the rest. "This rule limits my client's NIL market if the NCAA tries to limit who can contact his agent with offers, and when they can do so..."

I think eventually schools or the NCAA itself will find a way to lock players into a school that won't violate anti-trust laws. Supposedly, they are already working on it and a ruling is likely to be handed down before December.

 

[Orange_Crush]

I think eventually schools or the NCAA itself will find a way to lock players into a school that won't violate anti-trust laws. Supposedly, they are already working on it and a ruling is likely to be handed down before December.

All I can think of is collective bargaining. The player pool is just a Band-Aid that won't hold up if there is no collective bargaining, IMHO.

 

[DD4ME]

 

[DD4ME]

 

[Carp]

All I can think of is collective bargaining. The player pool is just a Band-Aid that won't hold up if there is no collective bargaining, IMHO.

If they pass a form of revenue sharing with the universities and the players, I think that would likely give the Universities a lot of legal basis to make rules surrounding NIL and transferring out. It basically makes the players an employee at that point. And part of that agreement will be a non compete clause or buyout or something like that, which will prevent a player from leaving with no consequence and overall make it harder for teams to poach other players.

Sure players could reject the revenue sharing and stick with current NIL deals so they don't fork over their rights in this scenario. But the vast majority of players aren't making 6 figures on NIL deals, and they won't be able to pass up the money.

 

[Carp]

Super unlikely Altmyer would commit to the Vols today. What we are waiting on is whether or not he goes to the portal. If he goes to the portal, you know he's ours.

 

[Orange_Crush]

If they pass a form of revenue sharing with the universities and the players, I think that would likely give the Universities a lot of legal basis to make rules surrounding NIL and transferring out. It basically makes the players an employee at that point. And part of that agreement will be a non compete clause or buyout or something like that, which will prevent a player from leaving with no consequence and overall make it harder for teams to poach other players.

Sure players could reject the revenue sharing and stick with current NIL deals so they don't fork over their rights in this scenario. But the vast majority of players aren't making 6 figures on NIL deals, and they won't be able to pass up the money.

Agreed. But I think that will still require collective bargaining. And I don't think it will be either/or on rev sharing vs NIL. I think it would likely be both. Look at NFL pro model. They don't give away marketing rights for NIL contracts.

 

[rikberry31]

Not funny, at all.



This was amusing.

Spinal Tap already did that. Big Bottoms circa 1984.

 

[knoxvol52]

Not 100% sure Tennessee gets a QB today but 1 thing I'm sure of, either a individual from Kenya or Ethiopia wins the Boston Marathon. Those countries have dominated the event for years...

 

[VolsFan-TX]

It amazes me that people don't understand how "tampering" works. NIL collectives can contact whoever they want at the directive of the school. There is nothing remotely illegal about that and there is nothing the NCAA can do to police it currently.

Is it skirting the rules and exploiting loopholes on what is legal or not under NCAA rules. Sure it is. But everyone is doing it. And until the NCAA changes the rules surrounding NIL, it isn't gonna change.

Agree that it isn't tampering. The reports surrounding the TCU QB are ridiculous and only highlight the fact that, if our collective contacted his people while he was not in the portal, our collective did nothing illegal. The media continues to spin a non-story.

 

[Vols4us]

NCAA can't police it. It'll be a lawsuit just like the rest. "This rule limits my client's NIL market if the NCAA tries to limit who can contact his agent with offers, and when they can do so..."

Exactly. A lot of folks are just wasting their time and breath on I wishes/wants.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

All I can think of is collective bargaining. The player pool is just a Band-Aid that won't hold up if there is no collective bargaining, IMHO.

I've been saying a CBA was absolutely necessary from the beginning of the Pay-for-Play era...it is the ONLY logical solution.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I think Jack Black the person is likely that friend that you love or hate but ya know they're gonna be who they are.

He's a pretty good actor...but he also gets a lot of roles where he's just being himself.

I think his best work has been films where he's kind of playing a part but isn't the main role. High Fidelity, Saving Silverman, Tropic Thunder or Jumanji. The only exception is probably School of Rock.

I will say that he's great as a voice actor for animated roles though. Kung Fu Panda, The Super Mario Bros. Movie

 

[Adam2014]

I think Jack Black the person is likely that friend that you love or hate but ya know they're gonna be who they are.

He's a pretty good actor...but he also gets a lot of roles where he's just being himself.

I think his best work has been films where he's kind of playing a part but isn't the main role. High Fidelity, Saving Silverman, Tropic Thunder or Jumanji. The only exception is probably School of Rock.

I will say that he's great as a voice actor for animated roles though. Kung Fu Panda, The Super Mario Bros. Movie

His best work is Bernie: Bernie (2011) | Rotten Tomatoes

 

[Adam2014]

Perhaps we get this figured out, but honestly I’m losing hope by the day.

 

[SoilVol]

NCAA needs a legal tampering period like the pros. That should hopefully cut out a bunch of the in-season BS. Open periodic 1-2 week contact windows then have transfer portal windows open after that.

 

[NMVol]

NCAA needs a legal tampering period like the pros. That should hopefully cut out a bunch of the in-season BS. Open periodic 1-2 week contact windows then have transfer portal windows open after that.

And include prohibition of player's reps reaching out to schools.

 

[SoilVol]

He did a remarkable job making things right after scandal, cleaning house at the Vatican, and dragging the church towards relevance in a modern world. It was never a job that would be done in a single lifetime even with all the power of the papacy but it was still enormous progress and I believe he laid the groundwork for positive changes to continue. God bless him.

Was talking with friends this morning and we likened the search for a new Pope much like how the Night's Watch elects a new Lord Commander.

Then I noted that Francis definitely would've advocated for Wildlings like Jon Snow did.

Okay, maybe not sleeping with one but you get the point.

 

[Chaplain_Vol]

I think Jack Black the person is likely that friend that you love or hate but ya know they're gonna be who they are.

He's a pretty good actor...but he also gets a lot of roles where he's just being himself.

I think his best work has been films where he's kind of playing a part but isn't the main role. High Fidelity, Saving Silverman, Tropic Thunder or Jumanji. The only exception is probably School of Rock.

I will say that he's great as a voice actor for animated roles though. Kung Fu Panda, The Super Mario Bros. Movie

To not mention Nacho Libre at all in this line up is a disgrace..

 

[slidersports]

I think Jack Black the person is likely that friend that you love or hate but ya know they're gonna be who they are.

He's a pretty good actor...but he also gets a lot of roles where he's just being himself.

I think his best work has been films where he's kind of playing a part but isn't the main role. High Fidelity, Saving Silverman, Tropic Thunder or Jumanji. The only exception is probably School of Rock.

I will say that he's great as a voice actor for animated roles though. Kung Fu Panda, The Super Mario Bros. Movie

I thought he was great in the fake movie they made on The Office where he fell in love with Cloris Leachman.

 

[Orange_Crush]

To not mention Nacho Libre at all in this line up is a disgrace..

"I wanna wheen!"

 

[Enki_Amenra]

I think Jack Black the person is likely that friend that you love or hate but ya know they're gonna be who they are.

He's a pretty good actor...but he also gets a lot of roles where he's just being himself.

I think his best work has been films where he's kind of playing a part but isn't the main role. High Fidelity, Saving Silverman, Tropic Thunder or Jumanji. The only exception is probably School of Rock.

I will say that he's great as a voice actor for animated roles though. Kung Fu Panda, The Super Mario Bros. Movie

Saving Silverman was good

 

[KB5252]

Nacho Libre is a movie you either really like or hate. I liked it in the old school Eanerst goes to............spirit