Recruiting Football Talk VIII

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#137,228
I think the Combine should do a separate speed measurement that's taken once players have gotten up to speed. Keep it a 40-yard measurement but don't start until they reach the 20-yard mark. 20-60 yards. A bad start can kill a 40 time, and the starting position/timing the jump aren't really indicative of actual football skills for many positions.
 
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Aesius said:
I think the Combine should do a separate speed measurement that's taken once players have gotten up to speed. Keep it a 40-yard measurement but don't start until they reach the 20-yard mark. 20-60 yards. A bad start can kill a 40 time, and the starting position/timing the jump aren't really indicative of actual football skills for many positions.
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Ya, the track start technique is so so much of how fast a 40 is. I'd rather see them take a hand-off or be in the WR stance to see how fast they get up to speed in a game.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Yea, a training regime that included links to trainers associated with Barry Bonds’ HGH plug 😂
Also documented visits from a well known Juice Dr… at his home… for “experimental” treatments…

Dude was absolutely swollen.
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Also difficult to believe a serial liar and cheater off the course was a straight shooter on the course.
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Said it was likely even.

His training regimen was still way different from other golfers. You still have to lift weights while taking steroids to get jacked.
 
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MarcoVol said:
Said it was likely even.

His training regimen was still way different from other golfers. You still have to lift weights while taking steroids to get jacked.
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Tiger is a billionaire. He has access to the best trainers/nutritionists/chefs in the world.

Highly doubt he'd want to damage his (golf) reputation by adding steroids and casting doubt on his entire career.
 
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knoxvol52 said:
NFL's all time leading rusher ran a 4.53 at combine.
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And never again in a standard football uniform. Just pounded on you all game without giving defensive players a full shot at tackling him. Then he’d break some long runs and the other team’s backs…4.7-4.8 speed be damned!
 
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peaygolf said:
his private life is a non-issue with me….. I mean Arnie was notorious for his womanizing and he’s an idol

There was something about Tiger I just didn’t like. I never met him, so it wasn’t an interaction I had. Maybe he was just too good too fast for me. HGH and other PED usage is highly rumored to have happened as well…..never proven.

He was driven more than any athlete I’ve heard about. That’s what made him great, and maybe what caused some to not be a fan. He wasn’t “real”almost machine like.

I’ve always maintained he’s 2nd best ever, but I could easily say #1.

Now that his career is winding down, I look back at it in awe. He’s a different person now, more accessible and I’ve grown to like him ….. a little😁
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And, that additional 'drive' and 'focus' are likely a big part of what made him stumble. You can only be 'machine like' so long. What about the PED usage rumor? Yes, the extra length on shots helps. But you still have to control the flight. Did he really drive it that much futher than the field?
 
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MarcoVol said:
Said it was likely even.

His training regimen was still way different from other golfers. You still have to lift weights while taking steroids to get jacked.
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For sure.

And I don’t know how likely it was straight anabolics - probably not likely on that front.

But it’s a pretty good bet he was on some sort of synthetic PED/HGH.

He was running in the same circles, with the same trainers and doctors, at the same time, putting up the same type of crazy numbers, as everyone else involved.

And he was Huuuuuge… looked like Barry out there lol.
 
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screenthis said:
And, that additional 'drive' and 'focus' are likely a big part of what made him stumble. You can only be 'machine like' so long. What about the PED usage rumor? Yes, the extra length on shots helps. But you still have to control the flight. Did he really drive it that much futher than the field?
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He controlled his distance better than anyone in history. He was as long as anyone on tour, but had EXTRA power when he needed it.

Watching him really hit one hard......was scary
 
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85SugarVol said:
For sure.

And I don’t know how likely it was straight anabolics - probably not likely on that front.

But it’s a pretty good bet he was on some sort of synthetic PED/HGH.

He was running in the same circles, with the same trainers and doctors, at the same time, putting up the same type of crazy numbers, as everyone else involved.

And he was Huuuuuge… looked like Barry out there lol.
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BALCO........how his name wasn't linked is a true conspiracy theory
 
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Soooo....does that mean ZZ is eligible now to have his jersey retired?

All-time leader in steals
Won SEC Regular season title AND has been on a team to win SECT title
All-American honors

Still kinda hope he lands the Bob Cousy award. Just not sure he'll be able to beat out Braden Smith, Mark Sears, or Walter Clayton Jr.
 
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