Recruiting Football Talk VIII

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MarcoVol said:
You gotta throw something else on the fire to be complained about or this place will never be able to change the subject. There must always be something to complain about.

Options include:

- Heup’s ability to win on the road
- Heup’s staff decisions
- Heup’s portal strategy
- overall recruiting
- OL play / Elarbee
- Spyre
- refs (for any sport)

Good luck!
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And every single time someone says one of these, they'll throw in an "imo" as though it's some original thought that proves their knowledge as a football coach evaluator.
 
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TN-POSSUM said:
57-39 lady cocks 😱


Game summary: they making shots and we ain't


GO LADY VOLS
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I think we’ve seen enough to start asking the question: has motherhood robbed Coach Caldwell of her edge? We’ve seen a dramatic decrease in point production since she had the baby.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Little to no chance that happens. Let’s be real about Mahomes. Is he great? Yes. But right now he is benefiting being under the best play caller in the NFL. Mahomes has quite a bit to go to pass guys like Montana and Manning. Only two QBs have ever won SBs with two different teams. Until Mahomes accomplishes that, he had a long way to go.
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I’ve had you on ignore for a while but this was so laughable I had to challenge it. He’s already one of the best there’s ever been. Maybe there’s some debate on how his total career stats shake out, based on possible injury or on how long Andy Reid coaches and what Mahomes situation looks like after him, but cmon, odds look in his favor at this point. When he does move on from Reid/chiefs he will attract a winning organization just like Brady and manning did. He’s already bypassed Brady and Peyton at the same respective points in their careers and it’s not close. Brady also had arguably the best defense in the league for his first 3 SBs, and the greatest post season kicker of all time, but we’re not holding that against him in this conversation are we? You say until he wins a SB with 2 different teams, but Montana didn’t, and yet you reference him in the previous sentence.

First 7 Year Starting Comparison

Tom Brady
Reg Season:
26364 yards
197 passing touchdowns
63.0 completion percentage
86 interceptions
4 Pro Bowls
1 MVP
Post season inclusive stats:
100 total wins
14 Playoff wins
3 Super bowls
2 Super Bowl MVPs

Peyton Manning
Reg season:
29442 yards
216 passing touchdowns
63.5 completion percentage
120 interceptions
5 Pro bowls
2 MVPs
Post season inclusive stats:
66 wins
0 Playoff wins
0 Super bowls

Patrick Mahomes
Reg season:
32068 passing yards
245 passing touchdowns
66.6 completion percentage
73 interceptions
6 (maybe 7?) Pro bowls
2 MVPs
Post season inclusive stats:
105 total wins
17 (maybe 18?) Playoff wins
3 (maybe 4?) Super bowls
3 (maybe 4?) Super Bowl MVPs

Again, cmon man. Andy Reid, who did not win a Super Bowl before Mahomes, may very well coach a few more years with how good he’s got it going. Mahomes is on track to be the greatest of all time, and having the bill belichick of offense as his head coach doesn’t detract from that. You have to have an elite coach to win Super BowlS. We don’t take away from Brady for that. Or Montana. Or Aikman. Or Marino. Or Bradshaw. Etc. If Peyton had a competent defense for half his career, he may well have won more too.

Mahomes is the elite of the elite. Thus why current MVPs continually fall short at his hand.
 
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Adam Sandler said:
I’ve had you on ignore for a while but this was so laughable I had to challenge it. He’s already one of the best there’s ever been. Maybe there’s some debate on how his total career stats shake out, based on possible injury or on how long Andy Reid coaches and what Mahomes situation looks like after him, but cmon, odds look in his favor at this point. When he does move on from Reid/chiefs he will attract a winning organization just like Brady and manning did. He’s already bypassed Brady and Peyton at the same respective points in their careers and it’s not close. Brady also had arguably the best defense in the league for his first 3 SBs, and the greatest post season kicker of all time, but we’re not holding that against him in this conversation are we? You say until he wins a SB with 2 different teams, but Montana didn’t, and yet you reference him in the previous sentence.

First 7 Year Starting Comparison

Tom Brady
Reg Season:
26364 yards
197 passing touchdowns
63.0 completion percentage
86 interceptions
4 Pro Bowls
1 MVP
Post season inclusive stats:
100 total wins
14 Playoff wins
3 Super bowls
2 Super Bowl MVPs

Peyton Manning
Reg season:
29442 yards
216 passing touchdowns
63.5 completion percentage
120 interceptions
5 Pro bowls
2 MVPs
Post season inclusive stats:
66 wins
0 Playoff wins
0 Super bowls

Patrick Mahomes
Reg season:
32068 passing yards
245 passing touchdowns
66.6 completion percentage
73 interceptions
6 (maybe 7?) Pro bowls
2 MVPs
Post season inclusive stats:
105 total wins
17 (maybe 18?) Playoff wins
3 (maybe 4?) Super bowls
3 (maybe 4?) Super Bowl MVPs

Again, cmon man. Andy Reid, who did not win a Super Bowl before Mahomes, may very well coach a few more years with how good he’s got it going. Mahomes is on track to be the greatest of all time, and having the bill belichick of offense as his head coach doesn’t detract from that. You have to have an elite coach to win Super BowlS. We don’t take away from Brady for that. Or Montana. Or Aikman. Or Marino. Or Bradshaw. Etc. If Peyton had a competent defense for half his career, he may well have won more too.

Mahomes is the elite of the elite. Thus why current MVPs continually fall short at his hand.
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Nobody is arguing Mahomes isn’t elite. He absolutely is. He just isn’t in Brady, Manning or Montanas league. Like I said, he will have to go to another team and dominate like Brady and Manning did. Andy Reid not winning a Super Bowl before Mahomes is irrelevant. He has always been a great play caller. He was good with Alex Smith. Almost won a SB at Philly.

Just keep me on ignore. Your opinion is stupid.
 
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SoilVol said:
I woke up this morning being unable to turn my head to the left. If I find out why I'll let you know.

Last week I massively pulled my groin stepping out of a duck blind when my wader boot got snagged on the door.
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Update: my neck just cracked at multiple locations on both sides and now I can move my head freely without pain.

I wish the same good fortune on your back @drvenner
 
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