Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[Vol423]

What a sad childhood I had. This is not the way I remember making snow angels.
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I doubt you were built for it.

 

[reVOLution33]

I was today years old when I learned Patric Young, former Gators BBall player and SEC Network analyst, is paralyzed from a 2022 car wreck.

Ban all vehicles!!!

 

[Vol423]

Nope this was...

Back when Miller Lite commercials were funny.

The 6 best Bob Uecker Miller Lite commercials of all time

Bob Uecker could truly do it all.

ftw.usatoday.com

 

[MoCo_Vol]

As for Tyler Summitt. Kid made a huge mistake. It destroyed his dreams of coaching. But he rebounded in life. He married the player he had an affair with, and I believe they now have 3 kids, including a daughter named after his mom. We're all human. We all screw up. It's how you respond that matters in the end.

Also...not excusing him, but folks made it into a bit more than it really was imo as well. He was only 3 years older than the player and they were married in 2018 (still married as well). A coach dating a player is never okay, but Tyler wasn't the first to do it and unfortunately won't be the last. They were both consenting adults.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I got no hate for Tyler Summitt ...dont know the guy. I will say this though: his dad is a very successful (rich) banking executive, Pat made millions at UT and was said to be thrifty which she apparently left all at her only child...Tyler. he retired after working a couple years as a coach in his early 20s...

But I am flabbergasted that Pat was allowed to name her early 20s aged son as the beneficiary of her Tennessee state employees pension instead of her 60? Year old ex husband....so Tennessees pension plan is on the hook to pay Tyler $173,000 a YEAR for the rest of his life?!?! For likely 50 years or maybe even more? He may draw $10,000,000 off a pension his mommy earned? Thats like winning the powerball lottery. $250k a year for life OR X million dollars...

Thats insane. They need to close that loophole. Why would everyone NOT name their kid instead of a spouse? You would be a fool to name your husband or wife that is likely to die 20 or 30 years earlier. Never heard of that before. Thats crazy. Tyler is a trust fund baby. Lmao. I hope that with Pats dementia she never knew about Tyler knocking up his point guard while married to his childhood sweetheart. That would have hurt and shamed her.

Most pension plans have age restrictions, he CAN draw it now, but wouldn't get the full yearly amount.

I work for the gubment and my pension is structured to be a very small percentage if drawn on before retirement age. Even if left to my wife she would also incur a massive penalty to draw it early. I also don't think you can just name an ex-spouse as a beneficiary. If my wife and I divorced it would 100% default to my child.

Yeah just looked into this... it is a bit of an interesting loophole and lots of folks take advantage.

Source: Pat Summitt's will leaves 'personal property' to Tyler Summitt

Tyler Summitt also was designated by his mother to be a non-spouse beneficiary of her state pension. When she retired, Pat Summitt opted to collect a monthly benefit of $14,460, or $173,520 annually in 2012. That benefit, with an annual cost-of-living adjustment, is now collected by Tyler Summitt for the rest of his life. Pat Summitt could have opted instead to collect $21,141 per month, or $253,632 annually, without choosing a beneficiary, and the payments would have ended upon her death.

A News Sentinel analysis in 2014 showed that 2,861 Tennessee Consolidated Retirement System retirees who chose non-spouse beneficiaries and their survivors could draw almost $1 billion, assuming they all lived until age 80. Records showed some retirees had chosen beneficiaries as young as infants to receive lifetime pension payments. More than one-third of the 2,861 beneficiaries were younger than 40 years old at the time of the retiree’s retirement, records showed.

Also did more digging, it appears that Tyler can only get 50% of the benefits until his death. Which is still no small amount.

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

For anyone wanting the story on Tyler and his mistakes. He does not coach now. Lives in Ohio. Is married and has a son with the former player. Lives basically off his mom's estate which might be the bigger travesty, but it is what it is. Adds some complexity to a quote of a once proud mom and makes it resonate with deeper truth too.

'We still feel the guilt:' Tyler Summitt, son of legendary coach, tries to move on from scandal

Five years after then-coach Tyler Summitt was caught having an affair with his point guard at Louisiana Tech, the couple are married and have a son.

www.usatoday.com

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[MarcoVol]

As for Tyler Summitt. Kid made a huge mistake. It destroyed his dreams of coaching. But he rebounded in life. He married the player he had an affair with, and I believe they now have 3 kids, including a daughter named after his mom. We're all human. We all screw up. It's how you respond that matters in the end.

Also...not excusing him, but folks made it into a bit more than it really was imo as well. He was only 3 years older than the player and they were married in 2018 (still married as well). A coach dating a player is never okay, but Tyler wasn't the first to do it and unfortunately won't be the last. They were both consenting adults.

I’ve done dumb things in life for sure! Sleeping with your own player gotta be one of the dumbest mf’n things you can do.

Wonder if the name was different and you looked at just the facts how Vol fans would judge this situation:

- named HC bc of who mom was
- cheats on wife with player
- lives off mom’s pension

Feel like if this was a Bama story some of yans wouldn’t be so forgiving.

 

[Jackcrevol]

As for Tyler Summitt. Kid made a huge mistake. It destroyed his dreams of coaching. But he rebounded in life. He married the player he had an affair with, and I believe they now have 3 kids, including a daughter named after his mom. We're all human. We all screw up. It's how you respond that matters in the end.

Some things eat cats and dogs...and spit their carcasses out. you're sick.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I’ve done dumb things in life for sure! Sleeping with your own player gotta be one of the dumbest mf’n things you can do.

Wonder if the name was different and you looked at just the facts how Vol fans would judge this situation:

- named HC bc of who mom was
- cheats on wife with player
- lives off mom’s pension

I never made any judgement. You did though, would you change said judgement if it wasn't Tyler Summitt?

Thoughts about Pokey Chatman?

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

 

[MarcoVol]

I never made any judgement. You did though, would you change said judgement if it wasn't Tyler Summitt?

Thoughts about Pokey Chatman?

I think anybody in that situation is a dummy. Or at the very least an incredibly weak person that has no business in any type of leadership role.

Would be someone that I would always, 100%, question their judgment.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I think anybody in that situation is a dummy. Or at the very least an incredibly weak person that has no business in any type of leadership role.

Would be someone that I would always, 100%, question their judgment.

I completely agree.

But that doesn't change the comment I made, it was made into a bigger deal that it really should have (especially) locally BECAUSE of his last name.

I don't agree with him or anyone doing it. That's as plain as I can say it for you.

I also don't care about a millionaires son reaping the benefits of said parent's accomplishments. Out of my control. But nothing was done to me to forgive in the situation so no clue why you assume I've forgiven him anyway.

 

[MarcoVol]

I completely agree.

But that doesn't change the comment I made, it was made into a bigger deal that it really should have (especially) locally BECAUSE of his last name.

I don't agree with him or anyone doing it. That's as plain as I can say it for you.

I also don't care about a millionaires son reaping the benefits of said parent's accomplishments. Out of my control. But nothing was done to me to forgive in the situation so no clue why you assume I've forgiven him anyway.

I know I quoted your post but didn’t mean you specifically. Just the first 2 posters I saw talking about it

 

[Jackcrevol]

What position is he gonna play here

Move Heard to G

 

[SugarCC]

I’ve done dumb things in life for sure! Sleeping with your own player gotta be one of the dumbest mf’n things you can do.

Wonder if the name was different and you looked at just the facts how Vol fans would judge this situation:

- named HC bc of who mom was
- cheats on wife with player
- lives off mom’s pension

Feel like if this was a Bama story some of yans wouldn’t be so forgiving.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I know I quoted your post but didn’t mean you specifically. Just the first 2 posters I saw talking about it

All good.

I just don't care I guess...and feel like we only had to read/hear about it because he's Pat's son. Doesn't excuse his transgression at all, but National media thrives on negativity when it comes to the Vols and I hate it.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

What data? Fool.
Prove me wrong?
Only thing I’ve said is banks is neither great or terrible.

You or anyone else hasn’t presented anything proving I’m wrong.

Because there is none!

Others have posted the numbers but this one defeats any of your ridiculous notions. Banks took us from the 90th overall defense to #8 in four years. That was done with recruiting restrictions. That’s ELITE. You can use conjecture to say other DCs would have done the same or better. But Banks DID IT.

Now go sit in the corner with your dunce cap on.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Preach to the resident morans.

 

[Jackcrevol]

I’ve done dumb things in life for sure! Sleeping with your own player gotta be one of the dumbest mf’n things you can do.

Wonder if the name was different and you looked at just the facts how Vol fans would judge this situation:

- named HC bc of who mom was
- cheats on wife with player
- lives off mom’s pension

Feel like if this was a Bama story some of yans wouldn’t be so forgiving.

What would you do? What if you fell in love with that player? Would you be too proud to live off her pension, or be homeless?

 

[MarcoVol]

Preach to the resident morans.

Nobody hates UT like UT fans

 

[MarcoVol]

What would you do? What if you fell in love with that player? Would you be too proud to live off her pension, or be homeless?

I’d not bang my own player.

But if I were in that situation I’d go get a job and provide for myself like an adult.

Are these serious questions?

 

[Jackcrevol]

I’d not bang my own player.

But if I were in that situation I’d go get a job and provide for myself like an adult.

Are these serious questions?

Yeah, they are. Real life, real emotions.

First, you cant expect every person in world to be as resolute as you convey. You of all people should see the whole story.

Why should he have to work? His parent took care of him, he's taking care of his child (one would think). I personally have to work, but if my parents took care of me i'd drop it in a new york second to be with my kids more.

That is what an adult would do. My kids come first, forever and always.

 

[SSVol]

What would you do? What if you fell in love with that player? Would you be too proud to live off her pension, or be homeless?

Fell in love with a player? While married? So many layers of fail in that and there is zero justification for any of it.

 

[csprig9]

I’d not bang my own player.

But if I were in that situation I’d go get a job and provide for myself like an adult.

Are these serious questions?

Random but judging by your screen name I think you know what I’m talking about

I had lunch and dinner within the last week at the snook inn just as i typically do every few months while down visiting…...
Been just north of Marco for 4 weeks now

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I’d not bang my own player.

But if I were in that situation I’d go get a job and provide for myself like an adult.

Are these serious questions?

That pension is only paying him around 50% of what it paid Pat (which was around 173k a year). Still a good chunk of money, but he technically does have a job, but it's as the co-founder/board member of the Pat Summitt foundation and also Co-founder of the Pat Summitt Leadership Group.