Recruiting Football Talk VIII

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Smokey123 said:
He’s gonna have to expand his route tree

These next couple weeks will show us what we need about Heup
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And it used to be but he's gone into a shell for some reason.

I remember back in 19 we were playing at UF.... 4th down and we run mesh. Had the first and Holliday dropped it(got benched for the season then transferred out) I don't think we have ran a mesh concept since.
 
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Wonder if there will be more upsets in general in the SEC now with the ESPN contract. A lot more night games
 
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Last night reminded me of SC in 22 from the very start. Both games were played after all we had to do was handle business (not overcome, just show up and avoid catastrophe). We're not handling success yet. We're just not. We have to learn to stay stone cold killers no matter the competition because now that we're no longer a pushover everyone is bringing their best. That game meant something huge for Arkansas and its fanbase and we played like we were ambivalent about it.
 
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UTProf said:
Last night reminded me of SC in 22 from the very start. Both games were played after all we had to do was handle business (not overcome, just show up and avoid catastrophe). We're not handling success yet. We're just not. We have to learn to stay stone cold killers no matter the competition because now that we're no longer a pushover everyone is bringing their best. That game meant something huge for Arkansas and its fanbase and we played like we were ambivalent about it.
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I have a feeling this is the biggest problem. They haven’t figured out how to handle all of it especially with how psycho social media is
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
To me, there is a difference between guys just missing shots (which happens a lot, yes) and the game plan being poor and the team looking unprepared. I can’t say there has ever been a game under Barnes where the team just looked unprepared and that there was no game plan. There was no game plan last night. None. Heupel had no idea what he was trying to do.
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TAMU last year. We had no offense and no clue how to guard their two guards.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
To me, there is a difference between guys just missing shots (which happens a lot, yes) and the game plan being poor and the team looking unprepared. I can’t say there has ever been a game under Barnes where the team just looked unprepared and that there was no game plan. There was no game plan last night. None. Heupel had no idea what he was trying to do.
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I don't agree with your last line, but you're right on your overall point. Last night looked like the problem was preparation and play calling and game plan as much as it was execution by players. It seemed from afar that Heupel decided to rely on his defense and try not to turn the ball over. That's a bad game plan on the road in the SEC. You have to attack.

I don't know that coaches told squirrel to be extra conservative on fielding that punt, but even if they didn't, it's a perfect example of how coaches play calling and attitude can infect the players. If the coaches had been aggressive and attacking all night, I bet squirrel would have had a more aggressive and attacking attitude and gone after that punt. Instead, coaches were being ultra conservative on offense, and squirrel followed suit when fielding that punt. You can't expect players to have a mindset opposite of coaches.

And I guarantee you they don't practice being conservative all week on offense, so now you're calling the game differently from how you practice, which can lead to bad execution by players.
 
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WebbCobb said:
Just those underdeveloped ones where the QB throws the ball 40 yards laterally to set up a 1v1 or 2v2, and then the receiver catches it and tries to go outside for some reason, gaining 1.5 yards
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I meant to Sampson specifically. We did a few of those outside throws, and they worked decently. We went away from them for most of the game though, except the long td drove (not the Sampson run). It just seems like we'll try plays that don't work over and over, but we won't repeat plays that do work. I get you can't go to the well too many times, but we sure do it a lot on unusscessdul ones.
 
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Go Fight Win said:
i mean, hats off to our single player last night: Dylan Sampson

edit-- JPjr showed up as well
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Pearce wasn't bad. He was in the backfield all night.

Still can't believe we didn't load the box on that last drive. They literally ran the ball every play right down our throats to the endzone except for a middle screen, which is basically a run.

Edit you edited as I posted so I look like an idiot now lol
 
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jave36 said:
I don't agree with your last line, but you're right on your overall point. Last night looked like the problem was preparation and play calling and game plan as much as it was execution by players. It seemed from afar that Heupel decided to rely on his defense and try not to turn the ball over. That's a bad game plan on the road in the SEC. You have to attack.

I don't know that coaches told squirrel to be extra conservative on fielding that punt, but even if they didn't, it's a perfect example of how coaches play calling and attitude can infect the players. If the coaches had been aggressive and attacking all night, I bet squirrel would have had a more aggressive and attacking attitude and gone after that punt. Instead, coaches were being ultra conservative on offense, and squirrel followed suit when fielding that punt. You can't expect players to have a mindset opposite of coaches.

And I guarantee you they don't practice being conservative all week on offense, so now you're calling the game differently from how you practice, which can lead to bad execution by players.
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Agreed. It seems Heupel learned the wrong lessons from the win at Oklahoma. Which is surprising. I’m not sure what has happened to him this year, but he at times wasn’t even this conservative with Milton. He’s lost all sense of who he is and what his supposed strength is.

Against Florida, I don’t want to see any of this BS. If you run tempo and the drive stalls with only 15 seconds off the clock, so be it. Anything less than a complete return of the tempo offense and I’m not sure this team will win more than 6-7 games this year.
 
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jave36 said:
Pearce wasn't bad. He was in the backfield all night.

Still can't believe we didn't load the box on that last drive. They literally ran the ball every play right down our throats to the endzone except for a middle screen, which is basically a run.

Edit you edited as I posted so I look like an idiot now lol
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crazy. we can't on one hand rely on our "DEEP DL" and then when one or two go down for the game w/ injury, fall back into a deep prevent D. makes no sense
 
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something was very off about last night on the OL. moreso than in the past. re watching our first few drives and its like our OL were not on the same page at all. my guess is we lack a consistent 5 across the line and that makes it hard to get into rhythm week after week

that illegal downfield call messed us up so bad. we were going to score that drive and it just pummeled us back. coach slowed things down after that drive big time and it became our identity. hard to dig out of that hole
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
Our fans beat their chest about him like he's won multiple national titles and makes final Fours consistently. He does neither of those things.
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That’s not what your argument was though. You’ve pivoted now that he has a SS and EE in back to back years. Several on here who get confronted with facts with their argument and spin it another way just to try to be correct.
 
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VolGee4 said:
That’s not what your argument was though. You’ve pivoted now that he has a SS and EE in back to back years. Several on here who get confronted with facts with their argument and spin it another way just to try to be correct.
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That has been my argument about him for years.
 
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