Recruiting Football Talk VIII

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Who would you think won the game?

I feel like this team just doesn’t have “it” right now. They are the better team of all the teams they’re playing, but they’re not all showing up on the same day (errors galore) and not capitalizing when they have the opportunity to (not getting out of innings on d and leaving runners on bases on o).
 
It has long been a thought of mine that photosynthesis is aided (or even driven) by the charge gradient between earth and sky. Leaves generally have sharp edges and/or sharp points which aid in ionization of ground electrons into the more positive surrounding air. Green color is also interesting because it is the spectral color emitted by oxygen, which I believe makes it more susceptible to multiphoton ionization that might occur due to green light reflecting from leaves. Taken collectively, it seems almost certain to me that negative charge flows from the ground and out through leaves into the surrounding air, potentially aiding in plant growth along the way. It is known that there are far more negative ions in wooded areas...one of the reasons that the air seems so fresh in a forest.

Fancy way of saying, yeah, I'd say your copper thing works. Although it probably has little to do with 'copper' per se.
Soil has both positive and negative exchange sites (Anion and Cation Exchange Capacity, with CEC being higher than AEC). In general, soil has a negative charge, and as an extension of the ground, plants do as well. This is why lightning strikes tall objects, like trees, because it is positively charged. Then stuff like bees are also positively charged and flowers often have stronger negative charges.

Anyway, the CEC in the soil is what holds important cations in the root zone. Calcium, magnesium, sulfur, phosphorus, potassium, etc all have positive charges (in most of their forms). Nitrates have negative charges and will leach through the soil, which is why it's a concern in groundwater and surface water.

Then you have a rhizosphere around the plant roots that allows the plant to take nutrients from the soil through ion exchange. Sometimes plants exchange sugars in the rhizosphere to create the optimal environment for nutrients to be dislodged from exchange sites for uptake. Or sometimes they release sugars that microbes or fungi feed on and give or free up the nutrients the plant needs in symbiosis. Its complicated.

All that to say, yes, charges are important and does help photosynthesis (through giving the plant and chlorophyll the nutrients it needs to run photosynthesis, Krebs cycle, etc). But the only exchange occurring from plant to air and vice versa is, generally, neutral oxygen and neutral CO2. Then some water through transpiration which is polar but neutral. There's hydrogen (-) exchange with potassium (+) for opening and closing stomata when the plant is exposed to sunlight and photosynthesis starts, but that's within the leaf.

BUT when it comes to a copper wire in the garden, A) science is inconclusive on it. Doesn't really show anything. B) I don't logically see what it would do. Its not going to help a plant uptake nutrients. The only thing that MIGHT make sense is that, because plants compete with each other for water, light, and nutrients, if the copper wire is letting off a slight negative charge it may trick the plant into thinking it has nearby competition which would trigger it to grow more aggressively in an attempt to outcompete its neighbor.

But with that said, why are we wrapping the copper wire around a wooden stick and not just sticking it directly in the ground? Copper would conduct the charge more effectively itself.
 
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Who would you think won the game?

I feel like this team just doesn’t have “it” right now. They are the better team of all the teams they’re playing, but they’re not all showing up on the same day (errors galore) and not capitalizing when they have the opportunity to (not getting out of innings on d and leaving runners on bases on o).
That is how stats can be deceiving at times. Not shown are Vandy's steals and our errors that created runs.

Bad D (14th in fielding percentage in the SEC), can't hold runners, inconsistent pitching except Liam, not hitting well with RISP.

Most of the line-up refuses to hit opposite field or be on top of the ball with level swings.

Not seeing it this year. Very little team chemistry to go with spotty pitching. Not all that surprising, they lost some quality players. The hot start camouflaged the deficiencies.
 
That far apart, any difference could be attributed to better soil, light, slope, wind obstructions, etc... I'd say do them close together, like 10 feet apart for a good experiment.
I need to see a Randomized Complete Block Design. 4 replications, at least a dozen plants per treatment. LOL
 
And peer review.
Most of the modern peer reviewed research is suspect. Pakistani article has 0 statistical analysis and I think its in a borderline fake journal. Which sucks because it appears to be a good design with results that seem to show there's something to it, but there's no p-Value. But they also did a pot trial in a greenhouse which defeats some of the purpose of the wire to begin with.

Stuff from Russia and Phillipines. Nothing this century (that I saw in a quick perusal) from the major trusted ag science countries: United States, Brazil, India.

Two people from New Mexico published a little review of mostly old studies (like, a lot of the stuff in the records is pre-1920 and writings in the 1700s-1800s). Oddly enough, some of these studies went beyond copper wires. They hooked up 6v and 12v to plants directly lol. https://digitalrepository.unm.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1645&context=math_fsp

I'd think you'd need like 16 plants evenly spaced, randomize your treatments (control, copper wire, iron wire, pick something else), then record plant heights, # of fruit, lbs of fruit, etc. Then compare the treatments.
 
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Who would you think won the game?

I feel like this team just doesn’t have “it” right now. They are the better team of all the teams they’re playing, but they’re not all showing up on the same day (errors galore) and not capitalizing when they have the opportunity to (not getting out of innings on d and leaving runners on bases on o).
That looks very strange judging from the outcome, agreed.

But, look at the diff in advancing runners:
Vanderbilt concluded the game with eight stolen bases, alongside its 10 hits and 10 runs. Tennessee matched with 10 hits of its own, but struggled to bring runners around when it mattered.

The Vols only advanced runners three times on 12 opportunities, while putting forth the same numbers with runners on base. By the night’s end, Tennessee stranded six aboard the base path.

Vanderbilt, however, ran with its chances. The Commodores hit 6-for-17 with runners on, advancing runners 11 times while stranding four.
 
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Who would you think won the game?

I feel like this team just doesn’t have “it” right now. They are the better team of all the teams they’re playing, but they’re not all showing up on the same day (errors galore) and not capitalizing when they have the opportunity to (not getting out of innings on d and leaving runners on bases on o).
The team who made great defensive plays
 
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Most of the modern peer reviewed research is suspect. Pakistani article has 0 statistical analysis and I think its in a borderline fake journal. Which sucks because it appears to be a good design with results that seem to show there's something to it, but there's no p-Value. But they also did a pot trial in a greenhouse which defeats some of the purpose of the wire to begin with.

Stuff from Russia and Phillipines. Nothing this century (that I saw in a quick perusal) from the major trusted ag science countries: United States, Brazil, India.

Two people from New Mexico published a little review of mostly old studies (like, a lot of the stuff in the records is pre-1920 and writings in the 1700s-1800s). Oddly enough, some of these studies went beyond copper wires. They hooked up 6v and 12v to plants directly lol. https://digitalrepository.unm.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1645&context=math_fsp

I'd think you'd need like 16 plants evenly spaced, randomize your treatments (control, copper wire, iron wire, pick something else), then record plant heights, # of fruit, lbs of fruit, etc. Then compare the treatments.
 
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Yes it does, I know his family. His dad was a good man and so is David
Played golf at The Peay with “Weird Beard”

He was a great player….and a great guy

Just for fun one day, we played a round where he hit every shot outside 100 yards and I hit every shot inside 100 yards and I putted……

We shot 62
 
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Knoxville:
Helton (is Tony V better than Helton yet?)
Who's our basketball guy?
Manning
(Substitute hockey for LV's) Summitt
Boston has the best group of all stars among the professional sports cities. Every Boston sport has a championship and a top 5 player of all time. I can't think of anyone else that comes close. Boston has to be the top. (I guess LA is next but they have had franchises move in and out through the years. It's hard to take them seriously. I forgot New York.... they'd be 2nd.)



Knoxville:

Baseball- Todd Helton
Football- Peyton Manning
Basketball- Bernard King
Lady Vols- Pat Summitt (if we're going players only, then Candace Parker for the LVs)
 
Played golf at The Peay with “Weird Beard”

He was a great player….and a great guy

Just for fun one day, we played a round where he hit every shot outside 100 yards and I hit every shot inside 100 yards and I putted……

We shot 62
Beard loved golf, he lives over in Nashville now or he did. He was good at football also.
 
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Soil has both positive and negative exchange sites (Anion and Cation Exchange Capacity, with CEC being higher than AEC). In general, soil has a negative charge, and as an extension of the ground, plants do as well. This is why lightning strikes tall objects, like trees, because it is positively charged. Then stuff like bees are also positively charged and flowers often have stronger negative charges.

Anyway, the CEC in the soil is what holds important cations in the root zone. Calcium, magnesium, sulfur, phosphorus, potassium, etc all have positive charges (in most of their forms). Nitrates have negative charges and will leach through the soil, which is why it's a concern in groundwater and surface water.

Then you have a rhizosphere around the plant roots that allows the plant to take nutrients from the soil through ion exchange. Sometimes plants exchange sugars in the rhizosphere to create the optimal environment for nutrients to be dislodged from exchange sites for uptake. Or sometimes they release sugars that microbes or fungi feed on and give or free up the nutrients the plant needs in symbiosis. Its complicated.

All that to say, yes, charges are important and does help photosynthesis (through giving the plant and chlorophyll the nutrients it needs to run photosynthesis, Krebs cycle, etc). But the only exchange occurring from plant to air and vice versa is, generally, neutral oxygen and neutral CO2. Then some water through transpiration which is polar but neutral. There's hydrogen (-) exchange with potassium (+) for opening and closing stomata when the plant is exposed to sunlight and photosynthesis starts, but that's within the leaf.

BUT when it comes to a copper wire in the garden, A) science is inconclusive on it. Doesn't really show anything. B) I don't logically see what it would do. Its not going to help a plant uptake nutrients. The only thing that MIGHT make sense is that, because plants compete with each other for water, light, and nutrients, if the copper wire is letting off a slight negative charge it may trick the plant into thinking it has nearby competition which would trigger it to grow more aggressively in an attempt to outcompete its neighbor.

But with that said, why are we wrapping the copper wire around a wooden stick and not just sticking it directly in the ground? Copper would conduct the charge more effectively itself.
I assumed it was grounded. If not, then yeah, no clue.

And I'm not really speaking to soil exactly, more to the big ball of negative change that almost certainly causes some degree of ionization at the edge of a leaf or the point of a pine needle, due to atmospheric charge gradient which would be thousands of volts.

But I'm an engineer, not a scientist, so I know next to nothing about this. I was just always struck by how similar the shapes of tree branches are to high voltage discharges. Made me wonder what role atmospheric gradients might have in such things.
 
“If I can’t play baseball nobodies gonna play baseball” 🤣


Also, is this guy in the first Toney mature Spider-Man? Bone Saw? The resemblance and voice similarity is uncanny if not.
Yep. Macho Man Randy Savage was Bonesaw McGraw. He was way past his prime and injured his neck during filming, which ultimately ended his pro wrestling career. (Macho Man also sold Slim Jim's. Oooh Yeah!)114345-Macho-Man-Vs-Spiderman-3405160471.gif
* "is this guy in the first Tobey Mcguire Spider-Man" for anyone that doesn't speak moran
 
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Yep. Macho Man Randy Savage was Bonesaw McGraw. He was way past his prime and injured his neck during filming, which ultimately ended his pro wrestling career. View attachment 741254
* "is this guy in the first Tobey Mcguire Spider-Man" for anyone that doesn't speak moran
Right, what's crazy to me, is that dude doesn't know who Randy " The Macho Man" Savage is
 

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