Recruiting Football Talk VII

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VolGee4 said:
But I don’t get why people just want to forget the 15 years we went through.
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I agree. I think there is some sort of psychological denial fans live in that makes them exclude those years. Those years weren’t much different than the end of the Battle era and the first half or so of the Majors era. In fact, if you look back from 1973 through 2023, those kinds of years are very much a part of the norm.

For my part, my possible delusion is that I still think Tennessee can win a national title under the right circumstances. I could be wrong but I do believe it.
 
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LA Vol said:
The risk-reward scenario changed as the season went on. Some games were closer than anticipated, injuries keep piling up and the season got away. IDT anyone thinks he'll need the RS-- just how it played out.
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To me having a fully tenured 5th Yr Sr, with the team. There's no way you bench him. That is a sure fire way to lose the team. And they never did.
 
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SpringBokVol said:
Joe was not good.

He isn’t good.

I was way wrong. I thought at worst he would be above average.

I think the coaches fell for practice joe and were just waiting for him to figure it out.

He severely limited this team and their potent.
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He is average. He is just ok. Not great, good, or bad. Just average. And in this league, that'll get you beat.
 
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LA Vol said:
Yep. The coaches have said multiple times in multiple venues that there were no pre-season plans to RS Nico. He needs to develop, but game experience helps him, too. I'm sure the "We want Nico!" chants did not go unheard.
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Nico is already a way better QB than Milton and it’s coaching malpractice and a slap to fans faces continuing to play Milton when he has played awful. Any boos he gets or loud chants for Nico are on him. You can’t be blown out two weeks in a row and not make any changes.

That’s on him.
 
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Just going to say, we will see what next season holds.

It’s not the record, it’s how we got there. Then hearing about the upperclassmen thing just sits wrong.

Hope he’s the guy.
 
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LA Vol said:
The coaches did not plan on redshirting Nico. There was no promise made as a condition of his recruitment. They planned to get him game experience throughout the season, but things did not go as planned. Opportunities to play him were missed, and now that the season is almost over, the risk-reward scenario has changed. He'll get a RS because that's how the season unfolded. Nobody's thrilled about how the QB situation or the offense played out this year.
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If there was no plan/promise he should've been the starter day 1.
 
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I get frustrated with some of the decisions our coaching staff makes as much as the next person. However, I don't think a lot of people people realize how little depth we have and how banged up we are on both sides of the ball. I am speculating here, but if Heupel is thinking of 2 or 3 years down the road he may be trying to preserve as many red shirts as possible to actually build the depth of this team. Burning redshirts in a year that we were already gonna take a step back only weakens teams 2-3 years from now when we could be in the CFP regularly. I am not saying that is exactly what is happening,but it makes more sense than the coaches are just stubborn and don't want to play the young talented guys.
 
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TrippieRedd said:
If we play some middle of the road team like Rutgers in the bowl please start Nico and tell Joe to kick rocks
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We will play a good team in Gator Bowl...Rutgers isn't going to a decent bowl at 6-6.....Penn State or Iowa ....is what I'm thinking or maybe the Irish...
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
If there was no plan/promise he should've been the starter day 1.
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That's absurd. For one thing, Joe was ahead of Nico "day 1". You can make an argument for Nico to replace Joe a few games into the season, but not from the start. Secondly, you start Nico on "day 1" and Joe might've transferred so he could play his last season of college ball. Then you would have one freshman scholarship QB and two walk-ons.

I think some of you don't understand the type of problem Heupel had to face in managing the roster. A lot of older guys would've left if they knew they wouldn't play much during their last season and it would've destroyed our depth at several positions. Hooker's play was good enough to cover up several roster issues and many can't seem to grasp the reality that those issues (while improving) still exist. The last two classes are starting to show up on the field and the current class seems to have more guys capable of contributing earlier. Add in some key portal additions and we're looking at a totally different team next year. That being said, it would really help if most of the older linemen that can return decide to come back.
 
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SugarCC said:
1. Alabama
2. Alabama
3. Alabama
4. Alabama
5. Alabama

Hate everyone else as much as I can muster up, after hating 1-5 so much. UGA has shot up with a bullet though, the last few years. I understand that winning makes arrogant a**holes of us all; but, UGA...congratulations fcksticks, you're the bastard child of Bama and the NY Yankees, with the Dallas Cowboys watching from the corner, waiting to tag in.
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I was going to pull for Bama in the SECG but have now realized Georgia will still get in if they lose. Therefore, I hope Georgia whips their ass and somehow loses in the CFP.
 
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Revived2002 said:
It’s either a coach whose record looks like Heupel’s on the list above or it’s all of those 5-7 seasons.

That’s it - that’s the choice Tennessee has, based on their history. For example, Fulmer, Battle and Heupel are the only coaches ever to get to a bowl game in each of their first three seasons…
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Does not change the fact they disappointed this year. You can criticize bad performance just like we praised him non stop until Florida this year.
 
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