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#102
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e-VOL-ution2013 said:
Gotcha.

I think what you mentioned with Punter and Baulkman is something that may become a big topic next season. IF those two don't improve and become the shooters/scorers that we need then will the question of CDT really developing players come out or will we just label them as busts? JMO.
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I hope Punter improves on his game but how would he be considered a bust....He is avg double figures and been a decent player for us.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Kyle Meyer should be high on this staffs list imo, 6'10" 225lbs, and a 38% shooter from 3, very similar to the big white guy from Vandy last night that can bang inside and stretch the defense as well. He's on their radar but hasn't seemed very high, that should change IMO.

I would also to a lesser extent even consider Brandon Walters from Walter State, he's definitely a big guy, in the 6'10" 285lbs range, but he's averaging 14ppg 8rpg and shooting 50% from 3...if he has continued to make a commitment to improving his conditioning I wouldn't be opposed to him getting a look as a late fall back.
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What about the Bunch kid from Atlanta. Not highly rated, but he's 6'11" and 247 shows a TN offer? Of course, he's not a JUCO, so that may be a consideration.
 
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volbeast33 said:
I hope Punter improves on his game but how would he be considered a bust....He is avg double figures and been a decent player for us.
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I didn't say he would be a bust. I said if he didn't improve would folks say CDT isn't developing players or would they call Punter a bust for not advancing his game. Keep in mind I am merely trying to gauge the reaction on VN.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I know you're giddy for all things orange, and have probably the most orange tinted glasses of us all, but typically your NCAA champion teams aren't chock full of a bunch of 3*. Would it be awesome to prove everyone wrong, absolutely, but one thing I've learned over the years of watching CBB and rooting for Tennessee is don't expect firsts for things and miracles, the laws of average tend to work out, meaning if that squad is gonna win a national championship there is going to have to be some star power added to it IMO
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Current avg star rating per player of the last 6 NC's per verbalcommits.com. Obviously, the historical rating is not going to be exactly the same as today, but this, I think, gives a reasonable idea of what it takes to compete consistently at a national level. Vols really need to get some star power players, otherwise, they're depending on the exception not the rule. A notable exception is Wichita at 2.571, but Greg Marshall has a long history of fielding overachieving teams, and verbalcommits tends to underrate teams that use a lot of JUCO's because they typically use a player's high school rating rather than his rating out of JUCO.

Uconn 3.292 (2)
Lou 3.736
Ken 4.308
Duke 4.333
UNC 4.028

Vols 2.708 (11th in SEC)
 
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mcdoug said:
Current avg star rating per player of the last 6 NC's per verbalcommits.com. Obviously, the historical rating is not going to be exactly the same as today, but this, I think, gives a reasonable idea of what it takes to compete consistently at a national level. Vols really need to get some star power players, otherwise, they're depending on the exception not the rule. A notable exception is Wichita at 2.571, but Greg Marshall has a long history of fielding overachieving teams, and verbalcommits tends to underrate teams that use a lot of JUCO's because they typically use a player's high school rating rather than his rating out of JUCO.

Uconn 3.292 (2)
Lou 3.736
Ken 4.308
Duke 4.333
UNC 4.028

Vols 2.708 (11th in SEC)
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Good, insightful information. Thanks!
 
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mcdoug said:
Current avg star rating per player of the last 6 NC's per verbalcommits.com. Obviously, the historical rating is not going to be exactly the same as today, but this, I think, gives a reasonable idea of what it takes to compete consistently at a national level.
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Of course the rating doesn't say anything about the composition of the team or the experience level, both of which also matter just as much. For example, GA is 2.667, but the composition of their team and their experience level are both better than ours. OTH, how often does GA make the NCAA's?
 
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I think we should give Christian Carson a look,he's a 5'9" point guard in prep school averaging 25 ppg
 
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Don't count Tennessee out for possibly landing Braxton Blackwell or Abdul Ado. If we can land at least one of those guys it'd be huge for next season. Ado is close to 7' and Blackwell is a 6'8" wing who is a great talent. Also I'd like to add that Ado has had two unofficial visits to Tennessee already, so why would he visit Tennessee unofficially if he wasn't seriously interested? I think there is real interest from Ado. Blackwell on the other hand is very interesting. We were one of his first offers, and his one of his best friends(Braxton Bonds) is already on the team. They both went to CPA together. Some great reasons for interest from both Ado and Blackwell, so don't count us out for those guys. Would be huge to get one of these guys at least!
 
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CNeagleVolFan said:
Don't count Tennessee out for possibly landing Braxton Blackwell or Abdul Ado. If we can land at least one of those guys it'd be huge for next season. Ado is close to 7' and Blackwell is a 6'8" wing who is a great talent. Also I'd like to add that Ado has had two unofficial visits to Tennessee already, so why would he visit Tennessee unofficially if he wasn't seriously interested? I think there is real interest from Ado. Blackwell on the other hand is very interesting. We were one of his first offers, and his one of his best friends(Braxton Bonds) is already on the team. They both went to CPA together. Some great reasons for interest from both Ado and Blackwell, so don't count us out for those guys. Would be huge to get one of these guys at least!
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It would certainly quiet the concerns about recruiting. Hoping we get one of them. I don't see us landing both
 
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Watched sophomore pg Chase Hayden, Aaron's Son, in the Class II-A tournament on Saturday. He scored 27 pts. and was named MVP of the tourney. His Dad was interviewed and said that Chase's decision will be his own as to his future after hs. He has been offered by Butch and was at Junior Day, even though he is a soph. Aaron said that he, personally, likes Butch and what he is doing at UT. Hopefully, one day Chase will be playing either fb or bb at UT. I believe he will get many offers for both sports between now and then.
 
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buzz4tennessee said:
Watched sophomore pg Chase Hayden, Aaron's Son, in the Class II-A tournament on Saturday. He scored 27 pts. and was named MVP of the tourney. His Dad was interviewed and said that Chase's decision will be his own as to his future after hs. He has been offered by Butch and was at Junior Day, even though he is a soph. Aaron said that he, personally, likes Butch and what he is doing at UT. Hopefully, one day Chase will be playing either fb or bb at UT. I believe he will get many offers for both sports between now and then.
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I watched some of his video on youtube the other day. He looks to have a lot of game. In his football recruiting thread I asked if he inteads to play both sports in college but never saw an answer. Do you know if he plans on playing both?
 
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TN will be able to sign a very good player or two if the NCAA will get out of the way. Every great player can't go to UNC, Duke, and KY. A lot of great players do not care what school they go to. They may want coaches that will help them develop, TV exposure, facilities, and fan support. TN has all of those things. TN won't start 5 McDonald's All Americans, but will sign one now and then. With a supporting cast, that's all you need in NCAA BB.
 
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Lefteye said:
I watched some of his video on youtube the other day. He looks to have a lot of game. In his football recruiting thread I asked if he inteads to play both sports in college but never saw an answer. Do you know if he plans on playing both?
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His Dad did not say, but I believe that in today's collegiate climate that the likelihood of a 2 sport athlete is very rare. Aaron said that when Chase is playing football that he is missing basketball and vice versa.
 
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BTO what do you think are chances are to land either Ado or Blackwell? I think we can at least get one of them, but I'm just wondering which one we have the best shot at.
 
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Things to know about Abdul Ado:

- Has taken 3 unofficial visits to Tennessee. One visit during Preseason (aug 31st), visited during the upset win over Butler, and also was here for the Kentucky game.

- Probably will go down wire-to-wire with Louisville. Pitino seems to want him bad.

- Will be a top 10-20 player in the class of 2016.

- Wants to study engineering in college, lucky for him Tennessee is on the best public universities for engineering. And the best in the state. His quote:
“A lot of recruits want to go to the schools to see their basketball and athletics facilities, but I’m more of an education person, so I just want to see how the school and education (aspects are),” Ado told The Courier-Journal in July. “I know for sure with the basketball facilities, they have everything a basketball player should need.”
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- I've read people comparing Abdul Ado to Kenneth Faried. Likes to use his length to play above the rim and loves to shot block.

We have a much better chance with Ado than we do Blackwell.
 
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Definitely agree we have a better shot with Ado than Blackwell. We are maybe 5th for Blackwell right now
 
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